2 Striker tweak to ZaZ 3.0

Changes I made:
Changed DW to Wingers
Added Mark Tighter to all Midfielders and Strikers
Remove Close Down More from Wingers

Had good results with Man City and finished in a Europe spot with Fulham

Can you test this?

Egraam said: I've been playing around with the tactic a bit and I've found throw-ins to be a bit of weakness - I haven't really gotten any chances created from throw-ins. I've also used Pheonix for a bit and I quite like it's throw-in setup so I've plugged it here. Also I think tight marking is still good, just not on defenders (that's why tight marking TI is not that effective in my opinion). So I've changed wingers to defensive wingers, and added tight marking on all non-defenders, effectively combining Blue 3.0 with Pheonix. Here are some results of  this tweak but it still needs more testing, not sure yet if it's better than original Blue. I'll play with it in my own save now, and hopefully be able to share some more results soon.

City 107 points, Sevilla 99 points all cups.



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Apparently it has been noticed that Throw-In instructions are not being followed in the new patch.

6.8 thats fine, seems to me that Defensive Wingers work better for strikerless formations.

A 4-2-2-0 which turns as the RPM roams around the field and the DLP stays back, had good results with Man City as they scored over 100 goals and conceded less than 20 and good results Fulham.

V2 Changes:
- Changed width to 'Very Narrow'
- Added 'Shorter Passing'
- Added 'Shorter Passing' Instruction to GK and BPDs, and Wing Back
- Added 'Direct Passing to Shadow Strikers, and DMs
- Added 'Close Down More' to DMs
- Added 'Close Down Less' to BPDs
- Changed Wingers to Wide Midfielders
- Changed RPM to Segundo Volante

ZaZ said: Attacking corners from Blue 3.0 are from @Egraam, taken from his Motion tactic.

P.S.: There was a topic where @Mark and others (including me) tried to optimize set pieces, in case you are interested. I will link it below.
https://fm-arena.com/thread/967-set-pieces/page-1/#comments-anchor Expand

What should I be looking at specifically?

This is a 4-1-2-3-0 using Magician's Throw-ins and ZaZ's corner setpieces, can you test this?

Added the new V3 version, it scores more and concedes less, here are the results I got with Man U

can we change the DW to Wingers and then add the 'close down more' instruction?

Added v2

Changes:
- Added @ZaZ set pieces, imo they're the best ones out rn
- Removed Tight Marking and Tackle harder on AFs, Wingers and CMs

Results with Man U:

Made a tactic called Bossanova, its a 4-1-2-1-2 and it did really well with Man United while holidaying the whole season can you test it?

Finished in a Champions League place with Fulham as well.

ta2199 said: The AMC still take it . So weird ! Expand

To make the MR and ML take the corners and the DL and DR do the throw ins do this

For Corners:
1: Hover over the Set Pieces with your mouse cursor and click on Corners
2: Go to Attack Right
3: Drag the MR to the corner where you will see the ball and a curved arrow
4: Do the same thing for the left corner but this time you drag the ML to the left
5: Hover over the Set Pieces and then click Set Piece Takers
6: Remove the #1 options for the Right and Left Side

For throw ins
Do the same for everything I said but this time go to the Throw-Ins and put in the DR and DL and just remove them in the Set Pieces Takers section

Then you're done.

Lapidus said: Hi,

Are those results for the 21.4 patch? Expand

Results I got with Man U for this patch, holidayed the whole season and won the league and Carabao Cup, I added who does Corners and Throw Ins without using the 'Set Piece Takers Section'but instead going to Corners --> attack ---> right/left ---> put the ML and MR as the corner takers and then removing it from the 'Set Piece Takers' so that it works correctly.

There was a minimal (I guess) changes to the ME and gameplay if anyone wants to know

Match Engine 21.7.0
- Better tracking of which chances should be registered within stats as clear cut
- Tweaks to long throwing distances based on player attributes

Gameplay
- Fixes for passing combinations not appearing correctly on chalkboards
- Most assists by a player within club records now appearing correctly

Kickback!

infxamus said: I added the 2.0 version, it feels more defensively stable than the first version

Changes:
Removed Mark Tighter for Strikers
Removed Dribble More instruction for BPDs
Added Dribble Less instruction for BPDs Expand

I actually added back the Mark Tighter instruction for strikers for the 2.0 version, tactic actually works better with it on

I added the 2.0 version, it feels more defensively stable than the first version

Changes:
Removed Mark Tighter for Strikers
Removed Dribble More instruction for BPDs
Added Dribble Less instruction for BPDs

I've seen people asking for 2 striker tactics so I've decided to do a tweak between the Phoenix 4.0 and Comet tactics, it did very well in my own testing, so I want to see how it fares in FM Arena's testing

Strikers score a ton of goals, the CA140 striker scored 60 in a season, while for the CA165 both strikers combined for 80 goals

With Man United and the CA160 and CA140 testing:

for the Set Piece takers, do I leave them empty or do I add takers, and which positions should do them?

Results with Man United, Holidayed the whole season and left everything with AM, great results, even thrashing Madrid in the final

I changed to Defensive Winger to Winger and tried it with and Man United and sheesh this is indeed the best 2 striker tactic right now...