Posted in the wrong forum so putting here to be tested.
I run my own mini tests looking for things like defensive performances, home vs away and goal contributions.
This tactic is an attacking version of my previous tactic. Ran a test with my 8 favourite tactics - using 10 different teams, set to holiday for a season. Adding the totals this came out top.
The other 7 tactics were:
2nd 424 mediocrity PFD 3 (but set to balanced) 3rd 442 Sori V3 (no changes) 4th EF 424 IF HP V2 P101 AC (no changes) 5th Swanton 433 - very underrated tactic - link on my last post. 6th my personal tweeks of Sori v3 (not worth sharing) 7th my previous tactic uploaded on here 8th Knap HGF 451 WH P86 E (433)
all really good tactics - would love to see this top one tested. In real games I only use it when I'm behind but usually saves the day for me.
NOTE: Since I posted I've used this in my save, yes it's 2036 but shows that when you have the correct players it can defend also. I'd already lost the two games - switched and won 18 games in a row.
Plus another user said:
I used your tactics with Milan and won all the championships. I only had one defeat, playing away against City in the Champions League, 5-4, but at home we won 4-0
Ran loads of tests myself (attached spreadsheet picture) and this tweaked tactic came out on top.
Incredibly consistent with a strong defence and great performances from the wingers.
I'm using it in my save and have had the following achievements:
Started with three managers: Arsenal - won everything and then moved to Real Madrid where I'm yet to lose a league game.
England - won everything (I'm now in 2031) 2 x World Cups, 2 x Euros barely lost a game.
Unemployed - got the Hearts job midway through first season, won the league in the 2nd season then over the next 4 seasons I won the title 3 more times and amazingly won the champions league in my final season. Then took the Chelsea job and won the treble in my first season, beating my Real Madrid team in the champions league final.
A powerful striker can score loads though weaker players might struggle in the role, avoid a DLP who has get forward instructions and look for full backs who can assist.
Been running tests on tactics, focusing mostly on 4231s (I like a realistic tactic that would work for most teams as my base tactic before I start my long saves and 4231 is way ahead of 433 and the 442s conceded too many)
I look for three things: solid defence, consistent results and good goal distribution.
This is doing the best when you factor those three things in. Defence isn't perfect but wide players scoring a much higher % of the goals and overperforms with every team I've tested with.
Cant work out what it is about the instructions that gets more goals from the wingers - but this tactic has them scoring approx 36% of the teams goals, while other 4231s have them hitting just under 30%
converted 424 deformation AM4 into a traditional 4231. Tried a holiday season with 3 teams, all on the new patch, some great results and very good defense. Would love to see it tested.
Hi there - is there a start game save file we can download? Been trying out a few tactics and tweaks of tactics - they seem to be doing okay but don't want to spam the website with multiple tactics - would love to be able to run some short tests myself and only upload those that are working well.
it's basically a tactic i downloaded from Knap, tweeked the three midfielders to make more solid/consistent - don't know if that disqualifies it from testing.
The holding version is the same with maybe an extra half a dozen tweeks.
also when I play for real (unlike the above which are just tests) I use this tactic once 70 minutes are gone and I'm in the lead. Improves defence further and saves player energy.
Tested on holiday mode with 12 different teams this came out top - both in terms of points and what I was looking for - defence.
Full disclaimer the base of this tactic is one of Knaps top performers but I made changes to the three midfielders and that scored higher in my tests.
I've tested lots of tactics with some amazing results but almost all of them conceded loads with at least one team, this was consistent with all of them.
Some Holiday test result highlights - won quad with Man United Championship with Huddersfield AFC Wimbledon beat Arsenal 3-0 in FA Cup
Plus some pics from below. (I call it Andy Hybrid on my test results)
Would love to see it tested on here.
Added my holding tactic to the opening post - this was not used in the holiday tests I did but is something I use in game. You can see from my spreadsheets how it faired against some other tactics on here and other sites.
This tactic plays brilliantly, with in game responding (switch to attack or SUS) it has made me dominate.
I holidayed with 4 teams to check it wasn't a fluke. Defense was amazing, Hibs would've won the league if they hadn't lost last game of the season. City did a treble they didn't concede in the prem until game 11. Milan won the league and Luton just missed out on promotion.
With these tests I did click to maximise familiarity at the start but then just clicked to holiday and came back at the end. Noticed they all dropped points in the last month so maybe you need to monitor fitness but if you are looking for a tactic that is solid, overachieves at every level and produces some great performances from the front 3 then this could be for you.
Noticed on some of the pics I refer to "Wing Drive" this is Strikerless Mornon, I renamed it earlier but all I had changed was set pieces so I changed it back before I posted these pics.
I do use The original version (not the DLP) did a load of playing before I ran these tests and found the original better than the DLP version.
The winning tactic was this gem. The Brick Wall v2 - it's a tweek of Afterlife 5 but is a 4141 system. It's brilliant - the tests above were holidayed but when you play for real and manage your players it's unstoppable. Here is how it looks:
Been doing my own tests. I found that AFTERLIFE 5 and Strikerless Mormon where my favorite tactics on the forum. I tweeked them both (plus I tweeked a Knap tactic) and then set out running my own tests.
I tested my tactics with City and Rangers (then discarded a few) then tested with Wycombe, Celtic and Liverpool. Then once I'd whittled down more I tested the remaining tactics with Juventus, St. Johnstone and Spurs. Here are the results:
Posted in the wrong forum so putting here to be tested.
I run my own mini tests looking for things like defensive performances, home vs away and goal contributions.
This tactic is an attacking version of my previous tactic. Ran a test with my 8 favourite tactics - using 10 different teams, set to holiday for a season. Adding the totals this came out top.
The other 7 tactics were:
2nd 424 mediocrity PFD 3 (but set to balanced)
3rd 442 Sori V3 (no changes)
4th EF 424 IF HP V2 P101 AC (no changes)
5th Swanton 433 - very underrated tactic - link on my last post.
6th my personal tweeks of Sori v3 (not worth sharing)
7th my previous tactic uploaded on here
8th Knap HGF 451 WH P86 E (433)
all really good tactics - would love to see this top one tested. In real games I only use it when I'm behind but usually saves the day for me.
NOTE: Since I posted I've used this in my save, yes it's 2036 but shows that when you have the correct players it can defend also. I'd already lost the two games - switched and won 18 games in a row.
Plus another user said:
I used your tactics with Milan and won all the championships. I only had one defeat, playing away against City in the Champions League, 5-4, but at home we won 4-0
Watch it score low now I've bigged it up!!!!
Incredibly consistent with a strong defence and great performances from the wingers.
I'm using it in my save and have had the following achievements:
Started with three managers:
Arsenal - won everything and then moved to Real Madrid where I'm yet to lose a league game.
England - won everything (I'm now in 2031) 2 x World Cups, 2 x Euros barely lost a game.
Unemployed - got the Hearts job midway through first season, won the league in the 2nd season then over the next 4 seasons I won the title 3 more times and amazingly won the champions league in my final season. Then took the Chelsea job and won the treble in my first season, beating my Real Madrid team in the champions league final.
A powerful striker can score loads though weaker players might struggle in the role, avoid a DLP who has get forward instructions and look for full backs who can assist.
I look for three things: solid defence, consistent results and good goal distribution.
This is doing the best when you factor those three things in. Defence isn't perfect but wide players scoring a much higher % of the goals and overperforms with every team I've tested with.
Cant work out what it is about the instructions that gets more goals from the wingers - but this tactic has them scoring approx 36% of the teams goals, while other 4231s have them hitting just under 30%
anyway, good work
Instant result
Great results as concord tipped to come 16th!
How did you get on against West Brom in the Cup?
What's name of that skin?
OPZ ELITE mini
it's basically a tactic i downloaded from Knap, tweeked the three midfielders to make more solid/consistent - don't know if that disqualifies it from testing.
The holding version is the same with maybe an extra half a dozen tweeks.
Full disclaimer the base of this tactic is one of Knaps top performers but I made changes to the three midfielders and that scored higher in my tests.
I've tested lots of tactics with some amazing results but almost all of them conceded loads with at least one team, this was consistent with all of them.
Some Holiday test result highlights -
won quad with Man United
Championship with Huddersfield
AFC Wimbledon beat Arsenal 3-0 in FA Cup
Plus some pics from below. (I call it Andy Hybrid on my test results)
Would love to see it tested on here.
Added my holding tactic to the opening post - this was not used in the holiday tests I did but is something I use in game. You can see from my spreadsheets how it faired against some other tactics on here and other sites.
I holidayed with 4 teams to check it wasn't a fluke. Defense was amazing, Hibs would've won the league if they hadn't lost last game of the season. City did a treble they didn't concede in the prem until game 11. Milan won the league and Luton just missed out on promotion.
With these tests I did click to maximise familiarity at the start but then just clicked to holiday and came back at the end. Noticed they all dropped points in the last month so maybe you need to monitor fitness but if you are looking for a tactic that is solid, overachieves at every level and produces some great performances from the front 3 then this could be for you.
Great if it could be tested.
I do use The original version (not the DLP) did a load of playing before I ran these tests and found the original better than the DLP version.
I tested my tactics with City and Rangers (then discarded a few) then tested with Wycombe, Celtic and Liverpool. Then once I'd whittled down more I tested the remaining tactics with Juventus, St. Johnstone and Spurs. Here are the results: