Testing a few other approaches to the 4-2-2-2 that might not perform as good as the current meta tactics, but might just be good enough to have lot's of fun with them.
Testing a few other approaches to the 4-2-2-2 that might not perform as good as the current meta tactics, but might just be good enough to have lot's of fun with them.
Testing a few other approaches to the 4-2-2-2 that might not perform as good as the current meta tactics, but might just be good enough to have lot's of fun with them.
A few updates to get a slightly lower intensity via "Slow Pace Down" for the keeper, overlapping both wings, no longer enforce "disciplined" creative freedom and other minor tweaks.
This is a small experiment that basically tries to get rid of the ball as fast as possible to allow for more aggressiv pressing opportunities. Most players are told to shoot as fast as possible and to play as risky as possible.
Variation of the Svonnstem with deeper defensive line, more vertical passing on most players and positive mentality. Note that for the provided images, I've switched to Crystal Palace instead of using West Ham like in the others, as West Ham scores too many goals outside of the regular game simply by the Ward-Prowse + Zouma combination. Also I haven't set up any set pieces for the experiment.
I don't really like adding instructions just for the sake of changing more, so to determine which changes actually contribute something to the tactic, I need a baseline with only the most important "meta" settings applied. Let's see how that performs compared to the more intricate versions that worked quite well.
Instead of having two CMs that try to provide some offensive support, I'm using two DLPs here, which should ensure slightly better defensive stability.
Trying some variations of my initial 4-2-2-2. I've removed some instructions like "dribble more", simply so that it can be set via personal instructions. This time, I'm using two CMs that also try to get forward in the halfspaces if the SS in front of them moves away. Also added "more risk" to the AF roles, as they're usually very involved in the combination play.
Again, using CM/DLP instead of two DM. In my versus sims it worked slightly better against other human created tactics. In the PL sim it performed slightly worse.
Basically the same tactial instructions as the 4-2-3-1 version, but with a slightly different setup. A 4-2-4 does not quite work on the same level as before, so I've tried to use two SS that act as some sort of half space wingers. I've noticed that this moves the tactic very close to some existing tactics (golden mean II and execute order 66), but it has some distinct characteristics with the CM + DLP role combination, instead of using DMs or overloading the half-spaces as much as order 66 does.
This is the IWB + Winger version that looks good ingame, but tends to get pretty bad scores for the IWB in my versus testing scenarios. At least there, it appears to still work quite well.
Updates the Svonnstem to use double CM instead of BWM+VOL combination. IWBs always seem to get terrible scores, but I'm not sure if they're actually useless, or if the scoring system isn't working well for them. For this variation, I'm using a WB(AT) instead.
A bit wild with three Liberos at the back, but they appear to provide a very interesting basis for the two trios on the left and right for build up play.
Trying to incorporate some of the new improved movements of VOL + IWB + AP, as well as the new W(AT). Only one BPD as line breaker. From my experiments against online players this proofed reasonably effective against the meta tactics from the hall of fame. Tried the same thing without any set pieces instructions, ended up as fifth. Would love to see it tested, although some of the roles require specific player types and PPMs to work as well as they can.
https://fm-arena.com/thread/7544-svonnstem-4231-double-cm-wbl-if/
https://fm-arena.com/thread/7619-svonnstem-4-2-2-2-v1-1-double-cm
Instead of having two CMs that try to provide some offensive support, I'm using two DLPs here, which should ensure slightly better defensive stability.