Robbo84FM said: I'm so confused with all this now lol could someone kindly tell me what is the best or they think is the best for u18, u21 & first team please? Expand
I have 2 schedule: 1 Game on Saturday: Monday and Tuesday full Rest, Wednesday 2x Offensive, Thursday 1x Matchpractise, Friday Quickness - Saturday is Matchday and Sunday on last Slot rest again. 2 Games Wed and Sat: Monday Matchpractise + Offensive + Rest, Tuesday Quickness, Wednesday is Matchday, Thursday 2x Rest, Friday Offensive + Rest, Saturday Matchday and Sunday full Rest.
After matchdays is enough time for the players to rest. I use this for all my teams.
If you wanna try to get 20 Pace and Acc players dont do any training in schedule. Just individual Training - Quickness Double Intensity when high or full condition. But the other stats will go down then.
this is so important to know. And this is huge. Difference between Ambition or Determination 1-10 to 10-20 is... UFFFFF
When you find a player with good personality like proffesional but you see his Determination is like 1-3 you can basicly ignore him. If he has 10 determination go for it, the difference isnt that much.
Same with age 18 0 Matches and 30 Matches. Maybe I will try to take 2-3 Talents to my seniorteam without let them play and wait what happend.
Thanks for testing it, thats very good to know for "normal gameplay".
babasalat said: I´m training with [Quickness]+[Match Practice]+[Recovery]x7+[Attacking]+[Addtional Focus Quickness]+[Double Intensity] in my u19 with maxed out facilities, good youth trainers, good training ratings and Professionalism between 11 and 16 but my players dont even get 10 CA per season. Some player dont even got 1 Acc or Pace after 2 seasons... Expand
harvestgreen22 said: I mentioned it on the first floor (if not, it might have been missed when the translator was translating).
To highlight the differences between different training programs, Before testing, the attributes of all players were set to 10, age 20, potential 200PA, Professionalism 20 And in the top column of the table below, "30" represents 30 games per season. These conditions all increase the amount of CA a player can get "per season". These CAs are then assigned to different training plans.
In other words, if your players do not meet these conditions, the expected effect will be reduced. And if your player's condition is better than that, like Z10 in the table, it changes the condition to 17 years old, so it gets 8 more CA points
This test setting is mainly used to control the variables, and the actual effect you get will vary according to the actual situation Expand
I know you are using the optimal conditions for testing the training But i didnt expect that the difference in CA growth will be this high. You get +30 CA per season with youth player (u17) and I dont even get +10 CA in a season with perfect facilities and good coachingteam (3,5 stars to 5 stars everywere, [5 stars in athletik]) So I was wondering. I also did not expect my youth players to develop so optimally but the difference is scary. But I played some more seasons now. A few players have continued to show no / very slow development, even if they had good hidden attributes. Other players develop great after 4 Seasons (even if they got only roundabout 10 CA per season.) (I play with all hidden attributes open for testing the schedule in a "real game".)
However, some other players have made brutal physical steps over 3-4 seasons. Completely independent of their hidden attributes. I sometimes had players with 8-11 professionalism, 60CA -> 80CA and 120PA who went from 8-9 pace and acceleration to 16-19 and players with 15-17 professionalism, 60CA -> 65 CA with 150-170 PA who dont even get +2 to pace or acc after 3 seasons. It seems very random.
Unfortunately, even with [Quickness]+[Match Practice]+[Recovery]x7+[Attacking]+[Additional Focus Quickness]+[Double Intensity], the technical attributes such as dribbling, passing and tackling went down significantly for some players. Maybe this happend because they didnt had match practice in the u19 team, I dont know. With Players with better PA (range from 150 to 180) this didnt happend so hardly, but they also didnt grow in physical this much. Like 3-5 acc / pace after 3 seasons (what is still great).
He has 13 ambition, 16 professionalism, 13 determination. I trained him in the first season with All rest and double intensive focus on quickness. After that with [Quickness]+[Match Practice]+[Recovery]x7+[Attacking]+[Additional Focus Quickness]+[Double Intensity] until now for three seasons. His physical stats grow strong but his technical is very weak. I will start to train with [Quickness]+[Match Practice]x2+[Recovery]x7+[Attacking]x2+[Additional Focus Quickness]+[Double Intensity] now. Hopefully he will get some more technical stats back. Also I think I will change the Focus from Quickness to something technical now. And dont ask me why he got +3 in corners +3 in long shots and +3 in penalty no other player of my u19 got this I would rather see this growth in passing, dribbling, marking and tackling. And yes. Its fun to have a DM with 17 Acc and 16 Pace but only 114 CA out of 143 PA. When I manage to get his last 29CA into good technical and mental stats he will be a beast with 143 CA.
In summary, I can say that the training schedules are working great for 9 out of 10 players. Now I just need a way to compensate for the deficiencies in technical and mental attributes. They still matter for the game And it feels wrong to see the stats between 5 and 10 -^.^-
Also I have some questions. Did you already do some tests with a high lvl of ambition or determination like:
but one time with 1 ambition, then with 10 ambition and atleast with 20? Same with determination 1, 10 and 20? The rest should be like always - 20 professionalism. 5 star coach... for a higher impact maybe with age 17. So we can compare with the 30CA+ growth per season.
I have a feeling that this is impacting the CA growth hard too.
And did you some testings with the youth teams? Is there a difference when a 16 years old player do 0 games or 30 games in a youth team? Or did he develop better when he is in the first team with 0 or 30 games?
And atleast can you do a test with [Quickness]+[Match Practice]x2+[Recovery]x7+[Attacking]x2+[Additional Focus Quickness]+[Double Intensity]? I hope this will grow the important technical and mental attributes more when we do both - Match Practice AND Attacking 2 times per week. Maybe I just didnt see this in tabel and you already did this test.
Sorry for my bad english and the long text but i´m excited to play with this schedules in my game. Its fun to create your own physical beasts players starting with age 15/16
I´m training with [Quickness]+[Match Practice]+[Recovery]x7+[Attacking]+[Addtional Focus Quickness]+[Double Intensity] in my u19 with maxed out facilities, good youth trainers, good training ratings and Professionalism between 11 and 16 but my players dont even get 10 CA per season. Some player dont even got 1 Acc or Pace after 2 seasons...
I´m using normal Role training. But someone mentioned before that leave it blank results in more ACC/PACE
Yes, sorry
I have 2 schedule:
1 Game on Saturday: Monday and Tuesday full Rest, Wednesday 2x Offensive, Thursday 1x Matchpractise, Friday Quickness - Saturday is Matchday and Sunday on last Slot rest again.
2 Games Wed and Sat: Monday Matchpractise + Offensive + Rest, Tuesday Quickness, Wednesday is Matchday, Thursday 2x Rest, Friday Offensive + Rest, Saturday Matchday and Sunday full Rest.
After matchdays is enough time for the players to rest. I use this for all my teams.
If you wanna try to get 20 Pace and Acc players dont do any training in schedule. Just individual Training - Quickness Double Intensity when high or full condition. But the other stats will go down then.
youth team
I did't test it yet ,because I don't know how to set the setting , or take time to think how to set the youth team
2.
https://pixeldrain.com/u/UDepfZy4
I tested the results you need in Q21--X21
ambition /determination /games
Thank you very much,
this is so important to know. And this is huge. Difference between Ambition or Determination 1-10 to 10-20 is... UFFFFF
When you find a player with good personality like proffesional but you see his Determination is like 1-3 you can basicly ignore him. If he has 10 determination go for it, the difference isnt that much.
Same with age 18 0 Matches and 30 Matches. Maybe I will try to take 2-3 Talents to my seniorteam without let them play and wait what happend.
Thanks for testing it, thats very good to know for "normal gameplay".
Dont know, how can i check this?
harvestgreen22 said: I mentioned it on the first floor (if not, it might have been missed when the translator was translating).
To highlight the differences between different training programs,
Before testing, the attributes of all players were set to 10, age 20, potential 200PA, Professionalism 20
And in the top column of the table below, "30" represents 30 games per season.
These conditions all increase the amount of CA a player can get "per season". These CAs are then assigned to different training plans.
In other words, if your players do not meet these conditions, the expected effect will be reduced.
And if your player's condition is better than that, like Z10 in the table, it changes the condition to 17 years old, so it gets 8 more CA points
This test setting is mainly used to control the variables, and the actual effect you get will vary according to the actual situation
I know you are using the optimal conditions for testing the training
I also did not expect my youth players to develop so optimally but the difference is scary. But I played some more seasons now.
A few players have continued to show no / very slow development, even if they had good hidden attributes. Other players develop great after 4 Seasons (even if they got only roundabout 10 CA per season.)
(I play with all hidden attributes open for testing the schedule in a "real game".)
However, some other players have made brutal physical steps over 3-4 seasons. Completely independent of their hidden attributes. I sometimes had players with 8-11 professionalism, 60CA -> 80CA and 120PA who went from 8-9 pace and acceleration to 16-19 and players with 15-17 professionalism, 60CA -> 65 CA with 150-170 PA who dont even get +2 to pace or acc after 3 seasons. It seems very random.
Unfortunately, even with [Quickness]+[Match Practice]+[Recovery]x7+[Attacking]+[Additional Focus Quickness]+[Double Intensity], the technical attributes such as dribbling, passing and tackling went down significantly for some players. Maybe this happend because they didnt had match practice in the u19 team, I dont know.
With Players with better PA (range from 150 to 180) this didnt happend so hardly, but they also didnt grow in physical this much. Like 3-5 acc / pace after 3 seasons (what is still great).
For example Isaac Manu: https://prnt.sc/ZWKU-Ato1EhN and https://prnt.sc/ijstxiTTNKB3
He has 13 ambition, 16 professionalism, 13 determination. I trained him in the first season with All rest and double intensive focus on quickness. After that with [Quickness]+[Match Practice]+[Recovery]x7+[Attacking]+[Additional Focus Quickness]+[Double Intensity] until now for three seasons.
His physical stats grow strong but his technical is very weak.
I will start to train with [Quickness]+[Match Practice]x2+[Recovery]x7+[Attacking]x2+[Additional Focus Quickness]+[Double Intensity] now. Hopefully he will get some more technical stats back. Also I think I will change the Focus from Quickness to something technical now.
And dont ask me why he got +3 in corners +3 in long shots and +3 in penalty no other player of my u19 got this
I would rather see this growth in passing, dribbling, marking and tackling.
And yes. Its fun to have a DM with 17 Acc and 16 Pace but only 114 CA out of 143 PA.
When I manage to get his last 29CA into good technical and mental stats he will be a beast with 143 CA.
In summary, I can say that the training schedules are working great for 9 out of 10 players. Now I just need a way to compensate for the deficiencies in technical and mental attributes. They still matter for the game
And it feels wrong to see the stats between 5 and 10 -^.^-
Also I have some questions. Did you already do some tests with a high lvl of ambition or determination like:
[Quickness]+[Match Practice]+[Recovery]x7+[Attacking]+[Additional Focus Quickness]+[Double Intensity]
but one time with 1 ambition, then with 10 ambition and atleast with 20?
Same with determination 1, 10 and 20?
The rest should be like always - 20 professionalism. 5 star coach... for a higher impact maybe with age 17. So we can compare with the 30CA+ growth per season.
I have a feeling that this is impacting the CA growth hard too.
And did you some testings with the youth teams? Is there a difference when a 16 years old player do 0 games or 30 games in a youth team? Or did he develop better when he is in the first team with 0 or 30 games?
And atleast can you do a test with [Quickness]+[Match Practice]x2+[Recovery]x7+[Attacking]x2+[Additional Focus Quickness]+[Double Intensity]?
I hope this will grow the important technical and mental attributes more when we do both - Match Practice AND Attacking 2 times per week.
Maybe I just didnt see this in tabel and you already did this test.
Sorry for my bad english and the long text but i´m excited to play with this schedules in my game.
Its fun to create your own physical beasts players starting with age 15/16