ZaZ said: Just to be clear, those tables were posted by another person in this forum.
Anyway, I recommend you to try 1 Rebalance per 2 Growth, or even 1:3, and I believe that will result in higher technical attributes and mental, without hindering the physicals (as long as it did not reach PA). Is it possible for you to check CA and PA of that player, so I know if he wasted potential or not? Expand
Yes. But only on 2025 and 2030...
2025: CA:101 PA:138
2030: CA:128 PA:138
I will try with a 1:3 ratio.
Should I try the rebalance 1 [x1] and the growth 1 [x3] or the rebalance 2 and growth 2 instead ?
ZaZ said: Thank you for testing, your pictures give lots of inside about how the training works in a real case scenario.
The training schedule was based in those tables below, which measures the performance of players with different values of attributes. There are six tables there: 1. 10 > 18. This shows the most important attributes to be trained to high levels. 2. 10 > 1. This shows pre-requisites for players to be useful. 3. Tables 1 minus 2. 4. Copy of table 1. 5. 10 > 6. This shows attributes you do not want to drop much during training. 5. Tables 1 minus 5.
As you can see in the tables, some attributes are not very useful, others only grow performance until certain value, and other attributes are always worth to be increased.
Looking at your results, training is working as expected, and I assume your player is performing very well with those physical attributes. The only visible issue is the drop in dribbling, so I will investigate here how to transform the decline of dribbling into a slow increase. Thank you for the insight!
P.S.: My recommendation is to try something like Rebalance + 2x Growth, or Rebalance + 3x Growth. This should address the dribbling issue without hurting pace and acceleration considerably. Expand
Thank you for your feedback.
It’s not only dribbling that is affected, but also finishing and other technical attributes, which have declined. This seems to be a general trend across the entire squad, but it is particularly noticeable with this player.
We can clearly see that finishing, dribbling, and passing have dropped significantly when comparing screenshots from 2025 to 2030. As I mentioned, this issue is affecting the whole squad.
Since I alternated weekly between the Rebalance 1 and Growth 1 training schedules, I started to think something might be wrong. Perhaps these schedules are not suited for young players, and a certain level of maturity is required to stabilize technical attributes.
Physically, as I said, the players have become beasts. However, technically, their attributes have declined significantly.
This leads me to wonder whether, when developing a player from the age of 17 with a focus on physical attributes, there is a specific age range at which those physical attributes can be “locked in,” allowing training to shift back toward technical development to improve those attributes again.
Overall, I’ve noticed that the only technical attribute that has improved significantly is long shots.
Thanks again for your feedback and for the work you’ve done.
ZaZ said: That training schedule was made considering professional matches, so it will not yield much CA growth on youth teams. That is why I advise to focus only on Growth schedule for them, because the ideal case is to reach high pace and acceleration before being promoted to professional team, and finish their growth in the upper team. Expand
Thanks. Here is a 5 season snapshot of the same player, using the “Rebalance 1” and “Growth 1” training schedules alternated on a weekly basis.
The player was a regular starter throughout those five seasons. It can be observed that, despite a significant increase in physical attributes, the technical and mental attributes have clearly declined — even with consistent playing time and the alternating training schedules. This drop is very noticeable.
Could you clearly explain how training schedules are applied in the following situations:
for first-team players with regular playing time; for young players included in the first team but receiving less playing time than key starters; and finally, for young players playing in the reserve team or under-19 squad.
Hello, thank you for sharing this excellent tactic.
However, I have observed a potential issue: young players who do not participate in matches and only follow training schedules such as “Rebalance 1” and “Growth 1” tend to experience a decline in their technical and mental attributes over multiple seasons (in my case, over a 5-year save). In contrast, players who receive regular game time show clear improvements in these areas.
Physical attributes, as expected, increase significantly.
Could you please advise on how this issue might be addressed?
P.S. This was observed in a save with Benfica, which has good facilities and staff.
Anyway, I recommend you to try 1 Rebalance per 2 Growth, or even 1:3, and I believe that will result in higher technical attributes and mental, without hindering the physicals (as long as it did not reach PA). Is it possible for you to check CA and PA of that player, so I know if he wasted potential or not?
Yes. But only on 2025 and 2030...
2025:
CA:101
PA:138
2030:
CA:128
PA:138
I will try with a 1:3 ratio.
Should I try the rebalance 1 [x1] and the growth 1 [x3] or the rebalance 2 and growth 2 instead ?
The training schedule was based in those tables below, which measures the performance of players with different values of attributes. There are six tables there:
1. 10 > 18. This shows the most important attributes to be trained to high levels.
2. 10 > 1. This shows pre-requisites for players to be useful.
3. Tables 1 minus 2.
4. Copy of table 1.
5. 10 > 6. This shows attributes you do not want to drop much during training.
5. Tables 1 minus 5.
As you can see in the tables, some attributes are not very useful, others only grow performance until certain value, and other attributes are always worth to be increased.
Looking at your results, training is working as expected, and I assume your player is performing very well with those physical attributes. The only visible issue is the drop in dribbling, so I will investigate here how to transform the decline of dribbling into a slow increase. Thank you for the insight!
P.S.: My recommendation is to try something like Rebalance + 2x Growth, or Rebalance + 3x Growth. This should address the dribbling issue without hurting pace and acceleration considerably.
Thank you for your feedback.
It’s not only dribbling that is affected, but also finishing and other technical attributes, which have declined. This seems to be a general trend across the entire squad, but it is particularly noticeable with this player.
We can clearly see that finishing, dribbling, and passing have dropped significantly when comparing screenshots from 2025 to 2030. As I mentioned, this issue is affecting the whole squad.
Since I alternated weekly between the Rebalance 1 and Growth 1 training schedules, I started to think something might be wrong. Perhaps these schedules are not suited for young players, and a certain level of maturity is required to stabilize technical attributes.
Physically, as I said, the players have become beasts. However, technically, their attributes have declined significantly.
This leads me to wonder whether, when developing a player from the age of 17 with a focus on physical attributes, there is a specific age range at which those physical attributes can be “locked in,” allowing training to shift back toward technical development to improve those attributes again.
Overall, I’ve noticed that the only technical attribute that has improved significantly is long shots.
Thanks again for your feedback and for the work you’ve done.
Thanks.
Here is a 5 season snapshot of the same player, using the “Rebalance 1” and “Growth 1” training schedules alternated on a weekly basis.
The player was a regular starter throughout those five seasons. It can be observed that, despite a significant increase in physical attributes, the technical and mental attributes have clearly declined — even with consistent playing time and the alternating training schedules. This drop is very noticeable.
Could you clearly explain how training schedules are applied in the following situations:
for first-team players with regular playing time;
for young players included in the first team but receiving less playing time than key starters;
and finally, for young players playing in the reserve team or under-19 squad.
However, I have observed a potential issue: young players who do not participate in matches and only follow training schedules such as “Rebalance 1” and “Growth 1” tend to experience a decline in their technical and mental attributes over multiple seasons (in my case, over a 5-year save). In contrast, players who receive regular game time show clear improvements in these areas.
Physical attributes, as expected, increase significantly.
Could you please advise on how this issue might be addressed?
P.S. This was observed in a save with Benfica, which has good facilities and staff.