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Gerrard said: Just go on holiday no tweaks to squad

So you letting assistant choose who to play?
just clarifying some things for a newbie tester xd
Gerrard said: Based on ARGUS 26.3 AWB 3430 P105 AC

Hi, what do you choose for holiday options while testing? Like keep current players etc.
And what is first team default roster settings? Best XI or something else?
GeorgeFloydOverdosed said: On 'no detail' processing, possibly.

On 'full detail', can't remember now, but I don't think so. I know for certain that player rep doesn't. I don't think club attributes affect the results either, but I suppose it does come into consideration when AI managers are deciding what team to play against you (you know, how after mid-season, suddenly games get a lot harder once they adjust to your actual team quality).


Somehow Bayern results in CL always worse then PSG for example while having a pretty good roster in stock, so thats why i asked about rep
Cant see anyone tested this yet or im blind
Do club rep affect result?
Counter Press non meta 4-3-3 tactic
Not trying to recreate something just experimenting with PSG roster abilitys
Vertical Tiki-Taka based 4-3-3, with 4-1-4-1 OOP
Solid result with a pretty high xG created and not so much conceded
60% possesion, 124 goals, totaly non meta
Hi Gerrard
As an idea - may you test next time with bayern
Seems like its pretty hard to reach CL and more then 120 goals in Germany
433, solid possesion and serious amount of goals
Time 343 for reference
Btw didnt won CL with any tactic yet with bayern
Vertical Tiki-Taka based tactic
Holiday tested
60% Possesion and pretty serious amount of goals
Gerrard said: 2nd season syndrome
A poor season start could be just down to RNG, or a result of over confidence etc.
I have tested over multiple seasons and could not reproduce a major dip in results in 2nd season.


Idk why this happens like this, but feels like when you actually playing, changing players, etc it somehow affect morale or rep or something else, no idea, but i feel like i never can get a BETTER season on a same tactic in 2nd season so i have to change some
Maybe raw test with Assistant Coach on holiday cant get it uh
CBP87 said: Again I disagree, I have had no issues with my long term saves using strikerless tactics. 2nd season syndrome hasn't happened for me this year, in fact, I'm finding that my 2nd season is better than the 1st but I'll put that down to recruitment

Might be because of tactic familiarity or something, idk
But all these last meta things dont work for me no clue why


CBP87 said: As previously stated, you are able to upload tactics, the testing isn't limited to certain people. Do you not think people have tried different styles or different shapes?

I do uploads tho, but imma slow cuz did this on my main long term save, will probably try some fast small db tests as zaz mentioned for myself first
Also somewhat it doesnt work good in long saves somehow, or its something on my end no clue
Heard about 2nd and next seasons issue, but didnt find any researches on it
CBP87 said: People testing the strikerless with the 1-2 changes are trying to push the ME as much as possible, trying to figure out what works, what combinations work, what PIs work. For me, with testing, I am trying to figure out what combinations work and don't work. The average score isn't 84.5, that's the top score and by testing new PIs etc.. we can hopefully push that score a little bit more.

I understand the frustration with the retesting but there are loads of other shapes on here that can be found quite easily using the filters or specific tables


Pretty much every last 3430 got that 84.5
Ik there's different versions can be easily found
But the topic is about diversity in latest retests
Idk why no one tries to get the top scoring possesion based tactic for example and so on

Whats the point of getting those 343's tested if we alr know that its meta lmao
Daktoon said: Sorry, first post, thought I had put them in!

Interesting concept
Yarema said: If you open the tactics table and sort out by release date there are maybe half of tactics with current meta shape. The rest are different. But yes you won't see them at the top of points table because they simply don't work as well.

Filter them by formation you want to play and browse through a few until you find roles and instructions you like.


The subject is not that there's NO different shapes
There is
But almost 90% of latest tactics are pretty much same with 1-2 diff PI's etc
Another year at PSG
Solid pos and results, not trying to recreate something specific but nice technical play and lots of goals
2-4-4 in attack slowly drifting to 2-2-6 mainly
Did some changes in away matches and some experiments so result not clear tho
apple said: Anyone else having problems with a ridiculous amount of penalties?

Get stuck in with high players Aggression adn Dirtiness wil llead to penalties and redcards
Just look scout reports about your defenders or use scouting tools
Gerrard said: This tactic uses a variety of roles.

Oh thanks, didnt see that one
But cant find anywhere a link for this
ZaZ said: People are free to test what they want. You can filter tactics by four defenders if you do not like three at the back, and there is even a table for plug and play tactics. People test tactics with different shapes every day. What you will not see are tactics with all shapes in the top of the table, but you can find plenty with lower scores, and even a few with very good scores.

Just open up tactics and theres 90% of em is absolutely same shapes and main team instructions
Only diff is PI but the result is almost same everywhere with 84.5 avg pts lmao