keithb said: If you use the genie scout rating file I posted on the page before that will show you the top keepers and who will be the best in the future. Expand
I dont use Genie tho, i scout with ingame things and everything is fine at least for top club with good scouting % of saves and good attributes is enough for me
GeorgeFloydOverdosed said: I may have a look into it later, but I suspect that it's fundamentally your tactic and overall level of quality of your players, not the attributes of your GK, that determine the number of goals he concedes.
We can influence who scores goals in a team, but that's because at the end of the day a goal is going to be scored. But you can't reduce the number of goals your GK concedes, because he's the only one who can concede them. Expand
The same tactic, only GK difference, but once i got 0.8 xga and 0.4 conceded and with other GK i got 0.8 conceded And it looks like it matters But idk, need a huge amount of tests to realise
Idea for a test case High line and possesion based tactic with two different GK's In my long term saves for example Couroutis always perform bad, and Costa perfroms well So the idea is to look for xga / conceded and pts for a same team with diff GK for a few times
Anyways i yet look for main params as Aeiral Reach, Agility and Reaction for a GK But with additional focus on Handling and One on ones
Also FM generates pretty stupid new GK's and Defenders 180 and below xD
GeorgeFloydOverdosed said: To clarify, my template, and therefore the weightings, are based on team position at end of season, not match ratings. Expand
So heres my question If i still win, but i wanna find a keeper that actually saves, what i shall look for Rn Chevalier looks good for me, best keeper for me yet, but he's old in my save, so i wanna find or make a good regen, waht to look for?
keithb said: Keepers wont get a high rating if they aren't doing much. And you will concede. Ratings in FM are based on goals, assists and keepers struggle to get 9-10 ratings. They can make ten saves and still only be in the 8's. Expand
I meant for example Courtouis always perfrom bad for me, Diogo Costa perfrom way better in same tactis, less concided, better rating etc and i can see that he actually make saves, while Courtouis wont save his only 1 1v1 in a match xd
GeorgeFloydOverdosed said: Both have downsides. For instance, if you filtered using my template, ter Stegen would be excluded due to his 13 Aerial Reach, and there's also the classic problem of if you filter for more than ~3 attributes no one would qualify.
Obviously the best solution would be some combination of both. A lenient set of filters combined with attribute weightings. But the practical reality I think for most of us is that we're rarely bothered to use filters at all. I think most of us just want a list sorted by rating % to look at. Expand
Is it all about team overall performance or not? Cuz what i've seen on my long real save, as example, Courtouis were bad (with my high def line at least) Yeah i won alot, and gd was insane, but he's avg rating was like 6.8 or something like that haha
ZaZ said: Roles are not just a set of PIs, but they also have hidden effects that make them unique. For example, all playmaker roles (DLP, AP, DLP, etc.) increase the probability of other players to pass the ball to their feet. Target players have increased chance to have the ball crossed to them. There are probably more of those hidden "modifiers", but only a dev could talk about all those things with authority. Expand
Yeah i know theres no devs, but i mean maybe someone seen those effects etc Clearly can see that MPM is like a glue for a midfield AP gets down for a ball but also chasing channels Thinking about best midfield double for control
Hi all Do anyone made some research on current player's roles?
What i figured out yet: For 4-2-3-1 formation it actually heavily matters which role to use, but PI's dont count that much For example i've tried two CHM's for mid 2, and they dont usually play with a ball much, so my possesion dropped to 47-53 When i used 2 AP's for central mid they did well, but attack alot and covering same spots my AM does, and when we loose ball they have to cover alot of space so it made me concede more (opp xg rised to 1 or so every game) Rn i use 1 AP and 1 MPM got around 60 pos and pretty good results, but maybe anyone got some more advices on roles?
MeanOnSunday said: I’ve noticed that almost all the retested tactics are strikerless, 3 atb formations. I understand that priority is given to the highest rated tactics but when the ME is so messed up as it was this year that means that we don’t get enough variety in formations rated in the current ME. I also don’t think I should be submitting tactics that are 99% the work of others just to get them retested. So is it possible to go back and retest more formations from v2 ME? I don’t think I’m alone in not wanting to use completely unrealistic tactics. Expand
It took long but at least i dropped few different ones lmao Feels like possesion based tactics cant get that amount of points
Another possesion based tactic. Used on PSG rebuild. Imo current state of PSG in my save can be called mid, but Wirtz is a banger. Forgot to switch from cup tactic with OM so this one could be won but it is what it is. Yeah used more direct version of this one at late stages of French Cup and at all games of CL, cuz team was not that good.
Tested by IR all matches, not holiday'ed.
As a base Knap(Gerrard) Highway Star have been used, but all the tactis are the pretty much same these days huh.
A mix of meta and non meta decissions. Possesion based tactic for supreme clubs. Used its 2 DM 1 AM version (4231 DM) for Champions League late stages sometimes.
Idk what else to say, first of all thats not that powerhouse Bayern that it was on a start since its alr 2035 in my save, club was kinda destroyed by AI managers, so thats a late rebuild, no idea how it will work on fresh save.
Why dont show instructions and players tab?
I dont use Genie tho, i scout with ingame things and everything is fine at least for top club with good scouting
% of saves and good attributes is enough for me
We can influence who scores goals in a team, but that's because at the end of the day a goal is going to be scored. But you can't reduce the number of goals your GK concedes, because he's the only one who can concede them.
The same tactic, only GK difference, but once i got 0.8 xga and 0.4 conceded and with other GK i got 0.8 conceded
And it looks like it matters
But idk, need a huge amount of tests to realise
Idea for a test case
High line and possesion based tactic with two different GK's
In my long term saves for example Couroutis always perform bad, and Costa perfroms well
So the idea is to look for xga / conceded and pts for a same team with diff GK for a few times
Anyways i yet look for main params as Aeiral Reach, Agility and Reaction for a GK
But with additional focus on Handling and One on ones
Also FM generates pretty stupid new GK's and Defenders 180 and below xD
So heres my question
If i still win, but i wanna find a keeper that actually saves, what i shall look for
Rn Chevalier looks good for me, best keeper for me yet, but he's old in my save, so i wanna find or make a good regen, waht to look for?
I meant for example Courtouis always perfrom bad for me, Diogo Costa perfrom way better in same tactis, less concided, better rating etc and i can see that he actually make saves, while Courtouis wont save his only 1 1v1 in a match xd
Obviously the best solution would be some combination of both. A lenient set of filters combined with attribute weightings. But the practical reality I think for most of us is that we're rarely bothered to use filters at all. I think most of us just want a list sorted by rating % to look at.
Is it all about team overall performance or not?
Cuz what i've seen on my long real save, as example, Courtouis were bad (with my high def line at least)
Yeah i won alot, and gd was insane, but he's avg rating was like 6.8 or something like that haha
Or IF with stay wide and WF etc
Yeah i know theres no devs, but i mean maybe someone seen those effects etc
Clearly can see that MPM is like a glue for a midfield
AP gets down for a ball but also chasing channels
Thinking about best midfield double for control
Do anyone made some research on current player's roles?
What i figured out yet:
For 4-2-3-1 formation it actually heavily matters which role to use, but PI's dont count that much
For example i've tried two CHM's for mid 2, and they dont usually play with a ball much, so my possesion dropped to 47-53
When i used 2 AP's for central mid they did well, but attack alot and covering same spots my AM does, and when we loose ball they have to cover alot of space so it made me concede more (opp xg rised to 1 or so every game)
Rn i use 1 AP and 1 MPM got around 60 pos and pretty good results, but maybe anyone got some more advices on roles?
Pass to space and striker role CFD or CHF, actually CHF make more runs itself
It took long but at least i dropped few different ones lmao
Feels like possesion based tactics cant get that amount of points
Used on PSG rebuild. Imo current state of PSG in my save can be called mid, but Wirtz is a banger.
Forgot to switch from cup tactic with OM so this one could be won but it is what it is.
Yeah used more direct version of this one at late stages of French Cup and at all games of CL, cuz team was not that good.
Tested by IR all matches, not holiday'ed.
As a base Knap(Gerrard) Highway Star have been used, but all the tactis are the pretty much same these days huh.
CL version will be in a next message.
Possesion based tactic for supreme clubs.
Used its 2 DM 1 AM version (4231 DM) for Champions League late stages sometimes.
Idk what else to say, first of all thats not that powerhouse Bayern that it was on a start since its alr 2035 in my save, club was kinda destroyed by AI managers, so thats a late rebuild, no idea how it will work on fresh save.