avonseller
ZaZ said: Yeah, fast is better. Those TFs don't play like your usual big bad guy that stays on the box all time. They instead will get the ball several times in the middle of the pitch and hold it until CM, wingers and other TF run into space.

I like to follow the philosophy of short-long-wide, meaning whenever a player touches the ball, he should have at least one option for short passing, long passing and someone in the flank giving width. DLP is the one offering short option most of the time in the back, while in the front it's CM and TFs. For long passes, you have all five forward players with run into space. The tactic actually changes from 4132 to 235 when you have possession, allowing you to overwhelm your opponent's defense. Finally, for width, the winger with the ball will cut to the middle while the other winger from the same side (IWB or IW) will run wide. This allows you to put high pressure from every direction, which makes it harder to defend against.


Good summary. Love the 235 shape in buildup with the IWBs I'll give it a spin
Based on your tests so far what's the most suited striker profile for the tactic? You think small and pacey ones will be fine even though by definition that's not what the role is?
@saycarramrod Are you still trying this on FM22?
saycarramrod said: I have been trying this in FM22 with Dortmund. Pretty solid so far, but not as deadly. Did beat Bayern in the Supercup 4-3. Replaced the BPDs with WCB (S) and the same settings to try it out.

Keep us updated
It seems like strikerless is no longer as effective
I hope something similar is in the works for FM22!
Like the look of it, similar to Tuchel's 343 at Chelsea so I'll give it a go. Maybe it can be rotated with the original when you've got easier games at home
Stan Seymour said: Thanks for the in-depth feedback avonseller, really appreciate it. Also i liked your nickname :D Thank you again for your wonderful words.

You're welcome mate

Also to add to the guidelines in general; my CMs weren't really quick (most around 11-12 for acceleration and pace) so a good substitute attribute is having good passing (around 15 or so) or good set piece ability. As you can see Garner and Carvalho both ended up topping the assist charts because they could just pin point a through ball or one over the top because of the tactic's go-for-the-kill nature if they didn't already assist through set pieces before. And my AM which was Zinckernagel also ended up with 13 assists, lots of interplay between the SS (Lyle Taylor) and the AM means they'll end up chipping in too. Overall probably the most fun tactic this year so once again cheers!
Tactic is mustard. Had to register to talk about it.

Ran a season with Forest playing all games since AM pick is a nightmare with the wide positions. I didn't even have really quick CBs but they did the job, corner routine is good my RCB got 12 from it. Haven't seen this sort of aggressive dominating football esp with another 3 atb this year. Revived my interest in the game right before FM22 so hats off