ZaZ said: Well, everyone has a different way to show results here. Some people post holiday tests, some people test with lower leagues, some people test with a godly team in 2026 while others just play normaly and show how their season is going. Maybe he used saves to backtrack in case of bad luck, or maybe he just saves a lot since he says he doesn't have much time. I don't see all this witch hunt in other posts with deceiving results, it's borderline bullying. Expand
Thank you but I do think the talk about my suspicion of cheating has to be shut down. I don't want anyone to be involved in such a ******** which was caused by me, especially u, in some kinda way as my idol. BTW, I've decided to make my next tactic based on your ZaZ-Yellow Hope it would work better than this 4231.
ZaZ said: I think this is a pointless discussion. It's pretty irrelevant if he saved or not before matches for his screenshot, the only thing that counts for score is the test on FM-Arena. I have lost account of how many people come with titles like "won all trophies", "unbeatable in 300 matches", "999 goals", "best tactic in fm22" or so on, and in the end they are just average tactics, but no one complains. Expand
Just cannot agree more. BTW,my West Ham United might join the self-called-won-all-trophies club So far by the game date of 2022/05/06, I've already won EFL Cup and PL champion.
CBP87 said: I think there are already a number of people who are thinking the same as me, you've saved the game 79 times, someone has called you out on potentially "cheating". My questioning is trying to help you ascertain that you're not, so if you would explain why you've saved 79 times for 50 games then I'm sure it would go somewhere to easing peoples opinions. But you haven't done that, you've become very defensive and abusive which to be honest in my opinion makes it look like you are cheating Expand
Why I have to defend myself on proving my saving action to be irrelevant to any cheating method. Can I say that I just like clicking the save button once I leave my office desk for a drink of coffee? Besides, I don't believe a SL cheater would wasting his time to fake a whole season result like mine, let alone quite a few dramatic matches. Here comes one of the dramatic match. Though West Ham losed the 1st round, but I really enjoyed the dramatic second half because my halftime tactic changes worked. For a cheater this might be the start of another attempt to SL, but for me, Lille teached me a lesson and deserved to win. Next round, West Ham hammered Lille so badly as Lille did in 1st round. This is football manager, and this is why I love this game.
Chewbacca said: Honestly, if we put aside the extreme number of saves you made and the indication of using the in-game editor then your team stats look very unrealistic.
Your tactic is extremely attacking, it's about outscoring your opponents and even if it's used with a top clubs such as Liverpool or Man City then you always have the worst defense in the league, yes, the attack is the best but the defense is the worst but look at your West Ham stats, you've got the best defense and attack in the league.
C'mon, do you really think someone can believe that with this tactic it's possible to have the best defense in the league with West Ham? With this tactic you can expect conceding 2-3 times more than you did even if it's used with a much better team than West Ham. Expand
Rational players won't believe the result, even myself. I'm not a boring man who jumped out arrogantly to show the wolrd how good my tactic is. Anyway, thank u for ur rational thinking & analysis.
CBP87 said: You're missing the point, you say you save after every game. You played 50 games and saves 79 times, all I'm asking is why you saved so many times? Very defensive and if anyone is being aggressive, it's you with the swearing Expand
No more conversation with a cheater like me plz. As long as I finished my whole shaming season, I will put my ugly screentshots onto this thread and maybe at that time more people would stand by u and shout ' WHY YOU SAVED SO MANY TIMES'.
I swipe out something I would like to say/complain/argue, cos I find out what I am doing is just what u did to me. Frankly speaking, I have no obligation or right to bend ur will, nor do u. So I apologize for my offence and leave u free to dig the truth of this 79-times-game-saving case.
Sincere thanks to everyone who downloaded, used, and leaved comments, and I would never reply to any posts about the game saving times or sth else about CHEATING.
Human beings only believe in what they want to see.
CBP87 said: Really excessive saving the game 79 times when you've probably during that period played approx 50 - 55 games and I don't understand your point about the tactic being made in China Expand
Just kind of aggressive-***hole words. Leave them away and I have to say sorry if you feel offended. Meanwhile, I still hold my stand on the legality of my 79-times-saving game save.
I didn't say that you cheated, I said "it looks to me like you cheated" and it's my opinion and I might be wrong but when I look at the game status information, it's really hard for me to believe that the results you posted were achieved without cheating.
Once more, it's just my opinion and I might be wrong.
Peace. Expand
My fault to be so word-aggressive. Like the type of tactic, I choose Very-Attacking not because it suits the ME, but because of my characteristic, passionate like the sun but also explosive like a powder barrel. Sorry for every single word which offended u and hope u don’t mind my overreactions.
CBP87 said: to be fair he has a point, why are you saving the game 79 times?? that makes no sense regardless of how many games you've played. 79 times is excessive Expand
As I explained，I played about 50 matches and I would click the save button every time when a match is done. My explanation of doing so is that my game time is pieced when I am in my office, in a coffeehouse or at home, with so many things flooding to me even makes a single match’s period lasting from morning to midnight. For now, I dont even know the meaning of trying to prove that I’m not a cheater. Why the **** I have to waste my bedtime trying to make my 79-times-own-game-save to be legal. Try this cheater-made garbage first and show the cheater author how bad the tactic is. BTW, this tactic is MADE IN CHINA and gentleman you should say ‘ to be fair it has a point’.
Tsubasa said: I've checked your save and it looks to me like you cheated, pal.
You played only 29 matches but the game was saved 76 times.
Also, it says that the in-game editor was used in your game
Not good...
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1.Try to figure out how much matches it would be between 2021.07.01 and 2022.04.01. I use my pieced time to play FM so I do have to conduct a high-frequence saving schedule on prevention of any disturbance. 2.I use beauty employees mod so how can I get my beauties without editor? 3.Don’t put discrimination on anyone even you don’t like him. And don’t say any strange word to anyone you don’t even know. You know what I mean and we have duty to make this forum a pure tactic-sharing-&-downloading space. 4.Find more to prove you are right and I’m guilty for being a cheater. 5.Actually, words in ‘3’ should be told by your parents during your childhood but it seems that… oh no, I’m so sorry about that.
serhat22 said: How this tactic is did so well in @MakeSuRE 's screenshots and badly at tactic testing? Expand
Quite a few WestHammer4231 users in PlayGM said this tactic was the best ever they tried in 22.2, while some guys reported that their 165-average-ca teams were kicked ass by AI's 185-average-ca galacticos. I wonder whether the unstability of this tactic would be the reason of the huge difference between my onw gameplay and the tactic testing.
Tsubasa said: He tested only for 20 matches, probably, just got very lucky with that... happens. Expand
That's what I also would like to know as you guys. Some users of this tactic got a glory winning season while some complained about the uselessness. For now, I've finished almost 30 rounds and won EFL Cup by beating Liverpool with a typical underdog-winning 2-1. As I said before in this thread, I would post the final results screenshots here.
NeOnHD92 said: What positions of tactic takes set pieces (corners/free kicks, etc) @MakeSuRE? Expand
Usually DL/DR. Actually you can use anyone(maybe DCML/DCMR/AMC) who is capable considering his attributes, as long as you put your big guys in the penalty area as I did.
Thx for having a try.
Thank you but I do think the talk about my suspicion of cheating has to be shut down. I don't want anyone to be involved in such a ******** which was caused by me, especially u, in some kinda way as my idol. BTW, I've decided to make my next tactic based on your ZaZ-Yellow
Just cannot agree more.
BTW,my West Ham United might join the self-called-won-all-trophies club
Why I have to defend myself on proving my saving action to be irrelevant to any cheating method. Can I say that I just like clicking the save button once I leave my office desk for a drink of coffee?
Besides, I don't believe a SL cheater would wasting his time to fake a whole season result like mine, let alone quite a few dramatic matches.
Here comes one of the dramatic match. Though West Ham losed the 1st round, but I really enjoyed the dramatic second half because my halftime tactic changes worked. For a cheater this might be the start of another attempt to SL, but for me, Lille teached me a lesson and deserved to win. Next round, West Ham hammered Lille so badly as Lille did in 1st round. This is football manager, and this is why I love this game.
Your tactic is extremely attacking, it's about outscoring your opponents and even if it's used with a top clubs such as Liverpool or Man City then you always have the worst defense in the league, yes, the attack is the best but the defense is the worst but look at your West Ham stats, you've got the best defense and attack in the league.
C'mon, do you really think someone can believe that with this tactic it's possible to have the best defense in the league with West Ham?
Rational players won't believe the result, even myself. I'm not a boring man who jumped out arrogantly to show the wolrd how good my tactic is. Anyway, thank u for ur rational thinking & analysis.
No more conversation with a cheater like me plz. As long as I finished my whole shaming season, I will put my ugly screentshots onto this thread and maybe at that time more people would stand by u and shout ' WHY YOU SAVED SO MANY TIMES'.
I swipe out something I would like to say/complain/argue, cos I find out what I am doing is just what u did to me. Frankly speaking, I have no obligation or right to bend ur will, nor do u. So I apologize for my offence and leave u free to dig the truth of this 79-times-game-saving case.
Sincere thanks to everyone who downloaded, used, and leaved comments, and I would never reply to any posts about the game saving times or sth else about CHEATING.
Human beings only believe in what they want to see.
Just kind of aggressive-***hole words. Leave them away and I have to say sorry if you feel offended. Meanwhile, I still hold my stand on the legality of my 79-times-saving game save.
76 times while holidaying
Plz don’t shot. I will commit every single crime you put on me. Sir, easy to leave your knee away from me plz.
I didn't say that you cheated, I said "it looks to me like you cheated" and it's my opinion and I might be wrong but when I look at the game status information, it's really hard for me to believe that the results you posted were achieved without cheating.
Once more, it's just my opinion and I might be wrong.
Peace.
My fault to be so word-aggressive. Like the type of tactic, I choose Very-Attacking not because it suits the ME, but because of my characteristic, passionate like the sun but also explosive like a powder barrel. Sorry for every single word which offended u and hope u don’t mind my overreactions.
As I explained，I played about 50 matches and I would click the save button every time when a match is done. My explanation of doing so is that my game time is pieced when I am in my office, in a coffeehouse or at home, with so many things flooding to me even makes a single match’s period lasting from morning to midnight. For now, I dont even know the meaning of trying to prove that I’m not a cheater. Why the **** I have to waste my bedtime trying to make my 79-times-own-game-save to be legal. Try this cheater-made garbage first and show the cheater author how bad the tactic is.
BTW, this tactic is MADE IN CHINA and gentleman you should say ‘ to be fair it has a point’.
You played only 29 matches but the game was saved 76 times.
Also, it says that the in-game editor was used in your game
Not good...
1.Try to figure out how much matches it would be between 2021.07.01 and 2022.04.01. I use my pieced time to play FM so I do have to conduct a high-frequence saving schedule on prevention of any disturbance.
2.I use beauty employees mod so how can I get my beauties without editor?
3.Don’t put discrimination on anyone even you don’t like him. And don’t say any strange word to anyone you don’t even know. You know what I mean and we have duty to make this forum a pure tactic-sharing-&-downloading space.
4.Find more to prove you are right and I’m guilty for being a cheater.
5.Actually, words in ‘3’ should be told by your parents during your childhood but it seems that… oh no, I’m so sorry about that.
Feel free to download & find out evidences of my lucky.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HVzRCtr5q3wZy2MxYcDY4n_DW4djClWq/view?usp=sharing
Thx for the explanation.
By uploading my game save document here?
Ruling myself out of cheating, I really would like to know how lucky I am.
Quite a few WestHammer4231 users in PlayGM said this tactic was the best ever they tried in 22.2, while some guys reported that their 165-average-ca teams were kicked ass by AI's 185-average-ca galacticos. I wonder whether the unstability of this tactic would be the reason of the huge difference between my onw gameplay and the tactic testing.
That's what I also would like to know as you guys. Some users of this tactic got a glory winning season while some complained about the uselessness. For now, I've finished almost 30 rounds and won EFL Cup by beating Liverpool with a typical underdog-winning 2-1. As I said before in this thread, I would post the final results screenshots here.
Usually DL/DR. Actually you can use anyone(maybe DCML/DCMR/AMC) who is capable considering his attributes, as long as you put your big guys in the penalty area as I did.