Metal said: Why are you deleting the guy's message exposing the author of this thread using another tactician's tactic?
Shouldn't you be removing/warning the guy who is stealing a tactic from knap?
I'm sure if I uploaded the same shape as ZAZ fire, with the exact same instructions passing it off as my own, with no credit given to zaz you'd be quick to rip it down or issue a warning in no time as I've seen it done before.
I was the one who flagged it up to Jeff and it fucks things up if people are just going to steal other tacticians work then claim credit for it and then be ranked top tactic that it calls everything into question Expand
WestHammer series were made in fm22 and I uploaded it here last year, and I remade it in fm23. It feels really weird to be charged with plagiarism once it is named on the ranking list. May I show u my vault of fake？
My nice-words reply under ur previous post was deleted by admin. Go and ask admin if he can show u what I told.
Once once once again, can I ask u who u r? You seems to think highly of yourself, believing that FM Arena would shut down without you? Come on boy, the earth spins no matter u do or not do anything.
toonarmy0511 said: Same here. I think something is really wrong in the way the ME simulate pressing and marking. I've seen numerous times one or both of my CMs pressing opponents defenders high up the pitch only for them to suddenly break off and running back allowing the defenders to freely lob a ball up the pitch freely. I think for now at least we can't defend too high up. Expand I've tried several combinations of two man in mid and what I found is that you will be frustrated by the disastrous defensive plays with no DM.
toonarmy0511 said: I'm also using 4-2-4 right now very similar to this but with W(support)s and WBs(support) so at newcastle I put almiron on the left and St Maximin on the right. I'm going to try this one out but it seems this tactic is going to be very narrow with IWs and IWBs. Are you conceding a lot from crosses? Expand Nope. The biggest threat would be through passes, especially in mid.
WestHammer_4231_DM
Holiday test with Crystal Palace.
WestHammer_4231_Invert
Something in advance: 1.This version is designed for elite clubs. 2.During this TOT test, injury risk was setted to zero and fatigue, as well as unhappiness, were reset monthly. 3.Despite the great offensive performance during the whole season, TOT only got 3 L and 1 D when facing Liverpool.
Tweaks from PlayGM forum
Both two achieved excellent results during testing period. Sadly, my fm23 kept crushing in the middle of the whole season testing. So I guess I should just leave this two great tweaks for you guys. Feel free to leave comments.
WestHammer_×_BBB_4231
BBB tactic series requires strong players as DL/DR. That's to say, pick WCB as your WB. For those who don't want to follow this, simply go to the set pieces section and pull back DL & DR to backline, swapping their positions with DMCL/DMCR's or AML/AMR's.
Holiday test with Tottenham.
Custom League Test
Holiday test with Tactic Testing League V4 from fm base.
TBH, first test round was ridiculous. By using this tactic, ManUtd got 1st in PL before the World Cup, with an eight-macthes-in-a-row clean sheet. Then CR7's unhappiness finally leaded to the sack of the manager. What a waste of an excellent test opening.
ZaZ said: Well, everyone has a different way to show results here. Some people post holiday tests, some people test with lower leagues, some people test with a godly team in 2026 while others just play normaly and show how their season is going. Maybe he used saves to backtrack in case of bad luck, or maybe he just saves a lot since he says he doesn't have much time. I don't see all this witch hunt in other posts with deceiving results, it's borderline bullying. Expand
Thank you but I do think the talk about my suspicion of cheating has to be shut down. I don't want anyone to be involved in such a ******** which was caused by me, especially u, in some kinda way as my idol. BTW, I've decided to make my next tactic based on your ZaZ-Yellow Hope it would work better than this 4231.
ZaZ said: I think this is a pointless discussion. It's pretty irrelevant if he saved or not before matches for his screenshot, the only thing that counts for score is the test on FM-Arena. I have lost account of how many people come with titles like "won all trophies", "unbeatable in 300 matches", "999 goals", "best tactic in fm22" or so on, and in the end they are just average tactics, but no one complains. Expand
Just cannot agree more. BTW,my West Ham United might join the self-called-won-all-trophies club So far by the game date of 2022/05/06, I've already won EFL Cup and PL champion.
CBP87 said: I think there are already a number of people who are thinking the same as me, you've saved the game 79 times, someone has called you out on potentially "cheating". My questioning is trying to help you ascertain that you're not, so if you would explain why you've saved 79 times for 50 games then I'm sure it would go somewhere to easing peoples opinions. But you haven't done that, you've become very defensive and abusive which to be honest in my opinion makes it look like you are cheating Expand
Why I have to defend myself on proving my saving action to be irrelevant to any cheating method. Can I say that I just like clicking the save button once I leave my office desk for a drink of coffee? Besides, I don't believe a SL cheater would wasting his time to fake a whole season result like mine, let alone quite a few dramatic matches. Here comes one of the dramatic match. Though West Ham losed the 1st round, but I really enjoyed the dramatic second half because my halftime tactic changes worked. For a cheater this might be the start of another attempt to SL, but for me, Lille teached me a lesson and deserved to win. Next round, West Ham hammered Lille so badly as Lille did in 1st round. This is football manager, and this is why I love this game.
Chewbacca said: Honestly, if we put aside the extreme number of saves you made and the indication of using the in-game editor then your team stats look very unrealistic.
Your tactic is extremely attacking, it's about outscoring your opponents and even if it's used with a top clubs such as Liverpool or Man City then you always have the worst defense in the league, yes, the attack is the best but the defense is the worst but look at your West Ham stats, you've got the best defense and attack in the league.
C'mon, do you really think someone can believe that with this tactic it's possible to have the best defense in the league with West Ham? With this tactic you can expect conceding 2-3 times more than you did even if it's used with a much better team than West Ham. Expand
Rational players won't believe the result, even myself. I'm not a boring man who jumped out arrogantly to show the wolrd how good my tactic is. Anyway, thank u for ur rational thinking & analysis.
CBP87 said: You're missing the point, you say you save after every game. You played 50 games and saves 79 times, all I'm asking is why you saved so many times? Very defensive and if anyone is being aggressive, it's you with the swearing Expand
No more conversation with a cheater like me plz. As long as I finished my whole shaming season, I will put my ugly screentshots onto this thread and maybe at that time more people would stand by u and shout ' WHY YOU SAVED SO MANY TIMES'.
I swipe out something I would like to say/complain/argue, cos I find out what I am doing is just what u did to me. Frankly speaking, I have no obligation or right to bend ur will, nor do u. So I apologize for my offence and leave u free to dig the truth of this 79-times-game-saving case.
Sincere thanks to everyone who downloaded, used, and leaved comments, and I would never reply to any posts about the game saving times or sth else about CHEATING.
Human beings only believe in what they want to see.
CBP87 said: Really excessive saving the game 79 times when you've probably during that period played approx 50 - 55 games and I don't understand your point about the tactic being made in China Expand
Just kind of aggressive-***hole words. Leave them away and I have to say sorry if you feel offended. Meanwhile, I still hold my stand on the legality of my 79-times-saving game save.
Shouldn't you be removing/warning the guy who is stealing a tactic from knap?
I'm sure if I uploaded the same shape as ZAZ fire, with the exact same instructions passing it off as my own, with no credit given to zaz you'd be quick to rip it down or issue a warning in no time as I've seen it done before.
I was the one who flagged it up to Jeff and it fucks things up if people are just going to steal other tacticians work then claim credit for it and then be ranked top tactic that it calls everything into question
WestHammer series were made in fm22 and I uploaded it here last year, and I remade it in fm23. It feels really weird to be charged with plagiarism once it is named on the ranking list.
May I show u my vault of fake？
Once once once again, can I ask u who u r? You seems to think highly of yourself, believing that FM Arena would shut down without you? Come on boy, the earth spins no matter u do or not do anything.
Yep. Compared with the gameplay in FM22, it's way more difficult to achieve the balance between ATT and DEF in FM23.
I've tried several combinations of two man in mid and what I found is that you will be frustrated by the disastrous defensive plays with no DM.
Nope. The biggest threat would be through passes, especially in mid.
WestHammer_4231_Invert Something in advance:
1.This version is designed for elite clubs.
2.During this TOT test, injury risk was setted to zero and fatigue, as well as unhappiness, were reset monthly.
3.Despite the great offensive performance during the whole season, TOT only got 3 L and 1 D when facing Liverpool.
Tweaks from PlayGM forum Both two achieved excellent results during testing period. Sadly, my fm23 kept crushing in the middle of the whole season testing. So I guess I should just leave this two great tweaks for you guys. Feel free to leave comments.
WestHammer_×_BBB_4231 BBB tactic series requires strong players as DL/DR. That's to say, pick WCB as your WB. For those who don't want to follow this, simply go to the set pieces section and pull back DL & DR to backline, swapping their positions with DMCL/DMCR's or AML/AMR's.
Holiday test with Tottenham.
Custom League Test Holiday test with Tactic Testing League V4 from fm base.
TBH, first test round was ridiculous. By using this tactic, ManUtd got 1st in PL before the World Cup, with an eight-macthes-in-a-row clean sheet. Then CR7's unhappiness finally leaded to the sack of the manager. What a waste of an excellent test opening.
Tested the tactic with Chelsea
That's pretty much of this tactic.
Yep. I've tried quite a few formations but it's hard to find a way to make a balance bewteen attack & defense in beta.
Thx for having a try.
Thank you but I do think the talk about my suspicion of cheating has to be shut down. I don't want anyone to be involved in such a ******** which was caused by me, especially u, in some kinda way as my idol. BTW, I've decided to make my next tactic based on your ZaZ-Yellow
Just cannot agree more.
BTW,my West Ham United might join the self-called-won-all-trophies club
Why I have to defend myself on proving my saving action to be irrelevant to any cheating method. Can I say that I just like clicking the save button once I leave my office desk for a drink of coffee?
Besides, I don't believe a SL cheater would wasting his time to fake a whole season result like mine, let alone quite a few dramatic matches.
Here comes one of the dramatic match. Though West Ham losed the 1st round, but I really enjoyed the dramatic second half because my halftime tactic changes worked. For a cheater this might be the start of another attempt to SL, but for me, Lille teached me a lesson and deserved to win. Next round, West Ham hammered Lille so badly as Lille did in 1st round. This is football manager, and this is why I love this game.
Your tactic is extremely attacking, it's about outscoring your opponents and even if it's used with a top clubs such as Liverpool or Man City then you always have the worst defense in the league, yes, the attack is the best but the defense is the worst but look at your West Ham stats, you've got the best defense and attack in the league.
C'mon, do you really think someone can believe that with this tactic it's possible to have the best defense in the league with West Ham?
Rational players won't believe the result, even myself. I'm not a boring man who jumped out arrogantly to show the wolrd how good my tactic is. Anyway, thank u for ur rational thinking & analysis.
No more conversation with a cheater like me plz. As long as I finished my whole shaming season, I will put my ugly screentshots onto this thread and maybe at that time more people would stand by u and shout ' WHY YOU SAVED SO MANY TIMES'.
I swipe out something I would like to say/complain/argue, cos I find out what I am doing is just what u did to me. Frankly speaking, I have no obligation or right to bend ur will, nor do u. So I apologize for my offence and leave u free to dig the truth of this 79-times-game-saving case.
Sincere thanks to everyone who downloaded, used, and leaved comments, and I would never reply to any posts about the game saving times or sth else about CHEATING.
Human beings only believe in what they want to see.
Just kind of aggressive-***hole words. Leave them away and I have to say sorry if you feel offended. Meanwhile, I still hold my stand on the legality of my 79-times-saving game save.
76 times while holidaying
Plz don’t shot. I will commit every single crime you put on me. Sir, easy to leave your knee away from me plz.