hello guys... after testing chinese site spread sheet i have one question... for Advanced forward position they say that heading (25) and jumping reach (20) has very low impact... but when i look for CD position it shows that Heading is (55) and jumping reach is (65)! almost triple times more important... when watching game in 3D i see alot of missed headers from strikers after cross as well... so what do you think of idea that maybe they underrate heading and jumping reach for strikers? how for example Tall but fast strikers like haaland or sesko doing in crossing situations? i don't know how to test this couse i don't know if its possible to check player stats in how he scored his goals :/
by the way... for last few days i am testing segundo vollante position and its same DM position but its scores and assist much more then roaming or deep lying playmaker...
Nikko said: Here's real life stats of Rordi who plays DM for Man City
As you can see he also don't score and don't make assistance.
I really don't understand why you expect seeing goals and assistance from DM.
Anything above 6.8 is a good rating for a position such as DM that isn't supposed to score or do assistances, at least that's how it works in FM. Expand
you ask me why am i expecting assist from roaming PLAYMAKER? anyway... ok you guys prove me wrong on that position... zaz is right, if whole team performs better then its ok!
Nikko said: It's always been like that in FM some positions get a lower rating than other positions.
Btw, 6.8 - 6.9 are very good ratings and I don't know why you call "disaster".
Of course, DM position can't get a very high rating like some other positions that scoring goals and make assistances. Expand
if you look in the pic Roaming playmaker has 0 goals and 2 assists in 30 games :/ thats a disaster... there is some other positions in Fm where rating is average but statistics is shit :/ annoying
how Roaming playmaker doing? how many assists and goals and average rating? becouse i found that whanever DM position i am using its always low ratings and underperforming :/
Tavares82 said: Do these important attributes work for any tactic? Expand
yeah i am using my own tactic with fulbacks, inwerted wingers and central midfielders and it works very well... in january i made first transfer based on those filters... its FB-attack and guy in first 8 games 4 times became Man of the match so at the moment for me is very clear evidence that filter work like a magic
guys what you think of that way? i made filters for every position... first i add all skill attributes of every position what is required... for example for advanced forvard i add all skills what is marked in game as important atributes... then i look at "test excel sheet" and then adjust those skills how it shows like finishing 8, dribbling 8,acceleration 10 and so on... you can add + or - in filter search depending on your strong of team... i am testing now and it works incredibble! i mean i am finding cheap players who are performing amazing! for example check shane lavery in blackpool! he can be a beast according to those attributes for very cheap... i can upload my filters for you to check as a fm files... hope you get it... feel still kind off dizzy after new years celebration
wow lots of info, hard to understand everything but in excel sheet but as i understand it shows that for example composure is most important for CD(80) and DM(60) and for rest of positions are not so important?
CBP87 said: I reckon its been nerfed!(is that the saying? if not then patched) I've tested about 6 of my tactics with PSG since the patch that use very attacking mentality and they have gone to crap (probably just my tactics haha) Expand
not shure about exact attacking mentality but after patch ME is changed drasticaly... one thing is shure that near post corners gonne for good played about 10 games - 0 corners scored
ZaZ said: It's for Genie Scout. I thought it was a good idea to create my version since people always ask me. Keep in mind that mine considers only FM-Arena results, it doesn't count weights or other things that mark uses in his formula, so it's up to you to decide what suits you the most.
Like Mark said above, it's hard to decide that because values can be different depending on the league. Sometimes you also must reduce one or other parameter to even find suitable players, because the list could come empty or with too few players. Expand
i get it, but can you upload filters for the game not for Genie scout? in link its only GRF file :/
ZaZ said: I'm gonna take the freedom to add the filters I use. They are mainly based on FM-Arena performance tests, dividing players in three groups: - Defense: central defenders. - Transition: wingbacks and defensive midfielders. - Attack: wingers, central midfielders, advanced midfielders and strikers.
Goalkeepers are also there, but they use my personal feelings instead of any tests, since it's hard to evaluate the most important attributes for goalkeepers.
Link here, since I can't upload as attachment. Expand
Ohh please can you upload as FM suited files??? that would be fantastic from you! (same as your tactics )
Rince said: In FM21 there was some guy on Korean FM forum that won EPL with only 1 CA players. He did a test and set all the "unimportant" attributes ( according to the attributes rating table ) to 1 and few important to 20 and he easily won the EPL. He did a huge post about it on the Korean FM forum. So the attributes ratings table is real deal.
I've been picking players with accordance to the attributes rating table for long time and it's been working like a charm to me. Expand
thats what i am talkin about! ok will start test tomorrow just i am concerned that for me FM22 is very random... i was testing some tactics and how some positions works so it was very random... like in test AML performs amazing and AMR not really and in test2 it was vice versa... so maybe these attributes not aquirred as well... i dont know :/
As you can see he also don't score and don't make assistance.
I really don't understand why you expect seeing goals and assistance from DM.
Anything above 6.8 is a good rating for a position such as DM that isn't supposed to score or do assistances, at least that's how it works in FM.
you ask me why am i expecting assist from roaming PLAYMAKER?
Btw, 6.8 - 6.9 are very good ratings and I don't know why you call "disaster".
Of course, DM position can't get a very high rating like some other positions that scoring goals and make assistances.
if you look in the pic Roaming playmaker has 0 goals and 2 assists in 30 games :/ thats a disaster... there is some other positions in Fm where rating is average but statistics is shit :/ annoying
disaster :/
yeah i am using my own tactic with fulbacks, inwerted wingers and central midfielders and it works very well... in january i made first transfer based on those filters... its FB-attack and guy in first 8 games 4 times became Man of the match
he said in previous post: Looks like they've removed the option for standard passing and width on very attacking
so he means all tactics with these options should not be tested again...
not shure about exact attacking mentality but after patch ME is changed drasticaly... one thing is shure that near post corners gonne for good
Like Mark said above, it's hard to decide that because values can be different depending on the league. Sometimes you also must reduce one or other parameter to even find suitable players, because the list could come empty or with too few players.
i get it, but can you upload filters for the game not for Genie scout?
- Defense: central defenders.
- Transition: wingbacks and defensive midfielders.
- Attack: wingers, central midfielders, advanced midfielders and strikers.
Goalkeepers are also there, but they use my personal feelings instead of any tests, since it's hard to evaluate the most important attributes for goalkeepers.
Link here, since I can't upload as attachment.
Ohh please can you upload as FM suited files??? that would be fantastic from you! (same as your tactics
I've been picking players with accordance to the attributes rating table for long time and it's been working like a charm to me.
thats what i am talkin about! ok will start test tomorrow