Mark said: I am going to use @dzek testing database to look at a few of the recommended set pieces. I will be doing 4000 test matches with each set piece routine. The base tactic will be Katana 4231 v 1.3 which I think is close enough to the best tactic this year.
I will test all the set piece tactics in this forum if I am am able and update this OP with the results. Wish me luck.
So here goes.
The baseline: Katana v1.3 for 4000 tests.
Testing table Update:
Thoughts:
I think there are 2 ways to look at the results.
The first is overall impact on results, as you cant tell how many goals have come as a result of the play after the set piece has occurred eg counter attacks, and also the throw ins. I am unsure how to find results from throw ins. So if you prefer this one then you should look at the points difference from the baseline tactic. Zim just leads from Han106 1-21 SP Best Hits on this measure.
The second way to approach it is the overall set piece impact (SP +/-). All the tactics have done well on this front but Chou is marginally in front.
There are 4 that standout on this measure. Han106 1-21 SP Best Hits seems to be the overall winner here from Delicious 4 inside 34 who is slightly in front from CSTG KANE 4231VIFS and Han106 Zim/Chou hybrid. I think you could use any of these 4 or Zim with confidence.
On balance I think I will be using Han106 1-21 SP Best Hits. This hybrid tactic based on the testing ticks all the boxes. A good increase in points from the original tactic, and is solid against all the measures.
I would like to thank @Han106 for spending the time to put this together. I will now be using it in my game save now I can get back to it.
Update:
I have added 2 new columns to the test results, which show the percentage of set piece goals per match both for For and Against.
Schedule:
No more routines have been uploaded. So that is it for the time being.
Notes:
I removed Std Dev as I didn't think it provided anything.
Legend:
PPM Points per match GFPM Goals for per match GAPM Goals against per match GDPM Goal Difference per match Corners Goals from corners DFK Direct free kick goals IFK Indirect free kick goals CornersA Goals against from corners DFKA Direct free kick goals against IFK Indirect free kick goals against Pts Dif The PPM difference from the baseline tactic Corner Dif Difference between goals from corners and goals against from corners per match DFK Dif Difference between goals from DFK and goals against from DFK per match IFK Dif Difference between goals from IFK and goals against from IFK per match SP +/- total of the 3 Dif columns, so overall impact of attack and defend set pieces % SP For The percentage of goals scored from set pieces % SP Against The percentage of goals scored against from set pieces Expand
Hi mark, I just want to say that it's great that you're testing all of these, and this section has been used so much more now, thanks to you.
As the set pieces are separate from the tactics on FM24, perhaps a section where people are able to share routines that work well could be added? Even if they are not tested in any way, I believe it may be useful. Thanks.
ZaZ said: Sometimes I get some absurd results like 163 goals with Manchester City in holiday mode (120 goal difference), and that gives motivation to follow in that direction. Most of the times it is just luck, but it's nice to feel like there is something broken just waiting to be discovered. Expand
Its been over a month since tactics were tested and was wondering why this is the case. Apparently its due to us approaching a new patch for the game but I have not heard any updates about this thus far.
I will test all the set piece tactics in this forum if I am am able and update this OP with the results. Wish me luck.
So here goes.
The baseline: Katana v1.3 for 4000 tests.
Testing table Update:
Thoughts:
I think there are 2 ways to look at the results.
The first is overall impact on results, as you cant tell how many goals have come as a result of the play after the set piece has occurred eg counter attacks, and also the throw ins. I am unsure how to find results from throw ins. So if you prefer this one then you should look at the points difference from the baseline tactic. Zim just leads from Han106 1-21 SP Best Hits on this measure.
The second way to approach it is the overall set piece impact (SP +/-). All the tactics have done well on this front but Chou is marginally in front.
There are 4 that standout on this measure. Han106 1-21 SP Best Hits seems to be the overall winner here from Delicious 4 inside 34 who is slightly in front from CSTG KANE 4231VIFS and Han106 Zim/Chou hybrid. I think you could use any of these 4 or Zim with confidence.
On balance I think I will be using Han106 1-21 SP Best Hits. This hybrid tactic based on the testing ticks all the boxes. A good increase in points from the original tactic, and is solid against all the measures.
I would like to thank @Han106 for spending the time to put this together. I will now be using it in my game save now I can get back to it.
Update:
I have added 2 new columns to the test results, which show the percentage of set piece goals per match both for For and Against.
Schedule:
No more routines have been uploaded. So that is it for the time being.
Notes:
I removed Std Dev as I didn't think it provided anything.
Legend:
PPM Points per match
GFPM Goals for per match
GAPM Goals against per match
GDPM Goal Difference per match
Corners Goals from corners
DFK Direct free kick goals
IFK Indirect free kick goals
CornersA Goals against from corners
DFKA Direct free kick goals against
IFK Indirect free kick goals against
Pts Dif The PPM difference from the baseline tactic
Corner Dif Difference between goals from corners and goals against from corners per match
DFK Dif Difference between goals from DFK and goals against from DFK per match
IFK Dif Difference between goals from IFK and goals against from IFK per match
SP +/- total of the 3 Dif columns, so overall impact of attack and defend set pieces
% SP For The percentage of goals scored from set pieces
% SP Against The percentage of goals scored against from set pieces
Hi mark, I just want to say that it's great that you're testing all of these, and this section has been used so much more now, thanks to you.
Is it going to start the day the full game is released?
Well if anyone would find it it would be you
https://fm-gamers.com
why cant i get into the site?
is it better than zaz 4.0?
So do you think the AW versions being better than the original is accurate?