Artabora
Asymmetric tactic trial. Balanced mentality. PF-De. VOL-At. DM-Su with Hold Position instruction.

Won all competitions.
Yarema said: The test isn't precise, there is a lot of RNG involved. The algorithm does not evaluate tactics, it's based on results. After X runs you need to be above Y points to get more runs. So for example after 2400 runs your tactic scored slightly lower and fell under the threshold for further testing while the other tactic didn't and got another 1200 runs. Purely based on luck.

Don't get me wrong but I think my question is clear enough. Both are the "same" No differences. So from view of the algorithm and testing system, they need to reach same points and results. And could you tell me, how is possible that a closed parameters based system (all frozen things that mentioned previous comments) find different scores from complete same tactics? Pure on luck? Strange.

In addition, I have to say honestly If mine was got played with more matches I would still open this thread. Because it's illogical. This is about algorithm. Not persons or any other things.

And moderator is deleted the original title. And he merged this thread with another one which I opened before. I don't know what was he thinking.

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The thread is closed by moderator to replies as you can see down below.

So, nothing to say...
Hi and thank you for your answers.

But both tactics have the exact same form. Both team and player instructions. There is no differences.

From point of your explanations, the algorithm needs to measure the same RNG paramaters and finish at same point the test for both tactics. Am I wrong? But mine tested with 2400, Gerrard's tested with 3600.

So could you tell me, what is the exact differences between these two tactics from view of the algorithm? Why it is react different? Or what is the more positive RNG parameters in Gerrard's tactic? Set pieces? Opposite instructions etc? What caused that?

And don't get me wrong mate. I'm just curious.
Hey guys.

The reason that I opened this thread is here:

I uploaded my tactic named "Artabora Evren V1.1" which is a tweaked version.

After about twenty minutes later, Gerrard uploaded his tactic named "EF IF HP V2.6 P105 AC" "I'm going to add a SS about this"



I was online that moment and I decided to download his tactic. And I detected that his tactic identical with mine (TIs and PIs are same you guys also can see and Tackle Harder removed from DM/R-Su) Please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that he copied my tactic. I think it's impossible because of time (Or he could have lightning fast pc maybe I don't know) I personally belive that this is a coincidence.

What I'm wondering is this,

- Although with similarities, why his tactic tested with 3600 matches, mine is with 2400? Which things caused this difference? As I know, your tactic testing system is based on raw and static game parameters to maintain relible the testing (like no player traits, no Injuries, no transfers etc) Maybe I missed something big. Or Gerrard designs his tactics with different ways. Maybe with hidden parameters or something, Or you guys doing something different I really don't know and I want to understand this correctly to avoid make people with meaningless matters.

Thanks.
Minor tweaked version of my tactic

IF/R-Su changed Attack role

Removed Hold Position from DM/R-Su
New 4-2-4 tactic trial. Attacking mentality.

All competitions won.
New 4-2-4 tactic trial. Attacking mentality.

Invincible league season. All competitions won.
New 4-2-4 tactic trial. Attacking mentality. Short passing based system. Double DMs with Hold Position instruction.

All competitions won.
Minor tweaked version of my tactic

Removed Position Mark and Take More Risks from AF

Added Tackle Harder and Take Fewer Risks to SK

Invincible league season. All competitions won.
New 4-2-4 tactic trial. Attacking mentality. Team instructions are based from ZaZ - Sapphire Alternative. Roles are based from my tactic Kanun

Position marking -D(CL)- for AF

Hold position for both DMs

All competitions won.
Lanokii said: you score many goal on corner ?

And no corner set piece.
Minor tweaked version of my tactic

Removed Hold Position from both DMs

Removed Dribble More from both FBs

Added Take More Risks to both DMs

Invincible season. All competitions won
New 4-2-3-1 tactic trial. Attacking mentality.

Roaming PF and IFs. Pressing AM. Double DM with Hold Position instruction.

All competitions won.
Minor tweaked version of my tactic

IF/L-Su changed to Attack role

PF/L-At changed to Support role. Added Move Into Channels instruction

Removed Take More Risks from both DMs

Added Distribute To Centre-Backs instruction for stabilize the build-up phase


All competitions won
New 4-2-4 tactic trial. Attacking mentality. Short passing system.

Double roaming PFs.

Double DMs with Tackle Harder, Hold Position and Take More Risks instructions.

All competitions won.
Minor tweaked version of my tactic: https://fm-arena.com/thread/12648-artabora-eren/

Added Mark Specific Position -D(CL)- to AF

Added Roam From Position to PF

Added Take More Risks to both DMs

Removed Roam From Position and Close Down More from both IFs

Removed Shoot Less Often from both BPDs

All competitions won.
CBP87 said: Can you tell us what you've changed and what makes this tactic different from this one https://fm-arena.com/thread/12606-artabora-ekin/

Hey mate.

In this tactic:

DMs and SK have Tackle Harder.

BPDs have Shoot Less Often.

I think tactic description confused you. I should have given enough info.
New 4-2-4 tactic trial. Balanced mentality.

All competitions won.
New 4-2-4 tactic trial. Balanced mentality.

All competitions won.
New 4-2-4 tactic trial. Balanced mentality.

Invincible league season. All competitions won.