CBP87
Updated DingDong 4132.

Holiday test with AM picking team and doing training

102 pts with Liverpool, winning the PL, CL, Carabao Cup and Community Shield. Top scorer was Salah was 57 goals

Position changes -

BBM > CM
W > WM
CWB > WB

TI tweaks-

Removed pass into space
Removed low crossed
Removed roll it out
Removed Distribute to FBs
Added Force opp outside
Added Higher Def Line
Added Higher Eng Line
Added use tighter marking


A tweaked version of the DingDong 4132 posted a few days ago. Achieved 105 points with Liverpool in the PL with Salah scoring 57 goals on the way to the team achieving a treble.

Holiday tested with no FM editors used and AM picking team and doing training

Added team instructions -

Force opposition outside
Higher defensive line
Use tighter marking


Zippo said: @CBP87, hi.

Please, add screenshots of the tactic.

Thank you.


Apologies, I have a screenshot of the tactic on the OP. Thanks
A 4132 that has performed very well in my real Madrid save (won the league 4 times and CL 3 times) and performed brilliantly in a quick Liverpool test.



It is very strong going forward and in defence.  Strikers seem to score for fun.

Took influence some of the tactics of the top of the table and around the analysis that has been done recently


That's what the analysis is, its telling you what has been used the most.
As a Bolton fan, the 451 or 433 or 41221 or whatever you want to call is, is close to my heart as this was the formation Big Sam used when we were mixing it up with the likes of Atletico Madrid in Europe.

The roles aren't the same, but I wanted to at least keep the shape . Its took me a while to get this tactic to a place where I was comfortable sharing it with the FM world.


As per with all my tactics, I tested it with Liverpool and Villa. No FMRTE used. Training and Team Selection left to AM.

Liverpool achieved 101 pts and won the quadruple


Villa achieved 74 pts with the 2nd best defence in the league and 5th placed finish
An attacking 532 (strikerless) tactic, tested with Liverpool and won the quadruple. Achieved 104 points in the league. No FMRTE used. Training and team selection left to AM.




tested with Villa, predicted 18th pre season, so overachieved in the end and a cup final. Some belting results along the way too but some bad results too to be honest




Just to show that no FMRTE was used as some big injuries
Fantistic work again Egraam, going to try and put a tactic together using the analysis from this thread
ZaZ said: In this last patch, Tight Marking is less effective than not using it. Don't ask me why.

Sorry mate, you've lost me there, are you saying to use tighter marking?
Created a 41311 based on the superb tactical analysis ZaZ did. For the roles I didnt always go with the top rated as I wanted to try something slightly different.


tested with Liverpool, AM picked team and did training, no editors used


tested with Villa, AM picked team and did training, no editors used
Holiday tested with Liverpool, achieved 109 points. No editors used.



Holiday test with Villa, 78 pts
fantastic bit of analysis, good work sir
Quick holiday test with Villa again, no FMRTE and AM doing training and team selection


Just to show that FMRTE wasnt used
Zippo said: Hi,

Yes, create a new thread for it, please.

As you may noticed we changed the way people upload thier tactics for the testing and only tactics that were uploaded using the new upload system are considered for the testing.


Thanks pal, I have created a new thread
A variant of the Tarantula Hawk AF CB tactic (https://fm-arena.com/thread/1164-tarantula-hawk-af-cb/), removed counter press and added regroup. Achieved some really good results with Liverpool and Villa. Holiday tested with no FMRTE used and AM doing training and team selection.

107 pts with Liverpool and all but FA Cup won, 52 goals from Salah


5th place finish with Villa and an FA Cup, Watkins with 38 goals


Thanks
its from FM Scout, a guy called TREQ I believe, screenshot below of the results he posted

**holiday test, training and team selection left to AM, no FMRTE used**

Had success with this using Villa, Its a 433 but with no midfield or strikers, WBs have get further forward and cross from byline added to ensure they get up the field as much as possible when they have the ball, effectively trying to make the WBs more winger esq



I performed another test with Liverpool, won everything bar the Carabao Cup

Grimlock said: 'Overlap' is a quite useless TI, the only what it does is increasing the fullback mentality about 5%. Most of time it's presence is unnoticeable. It has no effect on the forwards runs.

what makes you say that?
How about sticking the WBs on defend duty but sticking overlap left and right so they still get forward?
A solid 4-3-2-1 tactic that produces a lot of goals and concedes very little.



Tested with both Liverpool and Villa, no FMRTE used and team selection and training left to AM. Some screenshots -

Liverpool averaged 102 pts over the 3 tests, averaging 103 scored and just 16 conceded



Villa averaged 79 pts over the 3 tests, averaging 80 goals scored and 39 conceded




I ran the tactic through my own test 6 times, 3 times with Liverpool and 3 with Villa. I capture data from each test and work out an average. Tactic put in to all 3 tactic slots, team selection and training left to AM. No FMRTE used. Analysis -

Liverpool


Villa


Appreciate any feedback on how to improve this