kjarus said: @crizeKOS Have you tried to use DM(s) with PI "hold position" instead of DM(d)? The possession numbers are much better and no need to add "pass it shorter" to other players. Not sure how much loosing on defense... Expand
No but that's good idea man, u should put into test. As I said, im not expert on PIs. U gotta understand that my main intend here is to break opp defense through a diagonal pass by the DW. With the support role u may icrease the risk that dm is tanking and level up the system variability. Instead of a DLP this can be a better choice.
Nyeriel said: Wow that looks quite interesting ! Finally a tactic without the 424 shape which is refreshing nice ! Any idea what team I could pick in serie A or la liga to play with your tactic without changing much in the squad? thanks Expand
Well I guess that the tests made throught the custom league are with teams like Roma/Leverkusen. Choose someone with this tier/media predction...
I made some slight twists but mainly with your ideas and its absolute beast, and definitely better than 4222 that's been the meta:
- On offense you are occupying channels with 7 players instead of 6 - nightmare for defense. - On defense you are tracking back with 7 players instead of 6. - Defensive wingers absolute key to the tactic - on offense they pinch back the opposition fullback and open up channels, while on defense provide immediate support to your DM. - A lot of verticality due to inverted wing backs allowing strikers/shadow striker position higher up the pitch.
Probably will need to fine tune the TI's and PI's but congrats on laying a very strong foundation. Expand
Nice twists u've made m8 ^_^, you should put for testing ^^. Unfortunelly PIs are not my strenght and I hope someone can fine tune Xmas in the next days. I guess I ll get some rest now lmao
crizeKOS said: Yes, and the fatigue logic that is in this fm23. U cant counter pressing the entire game without being punished. Maybe this is something that can improve this tactic... someome must test it hehe Expand
Sane said: But you also removed play out of defense, this can also affect, you shouldn’t have removed it)
And the question, why do you refuse counter-pressing? Did you do better in tests? Expand
But as a said, this is a tactic for good teams that relies on CA decision making so counter off gives the players the freedom to decide by themselves maybe in a run with Nott Forest this can nerf the tactic for instance
Sane said: But you also removed play out of defense, this can also affect, you shouldn’t have removed it)
And the question, why do you refuse counter-pressing? Did you do better in tests? Expand
Yes (the forum tests shows that and for the same reason i took play out of fedense off), and the fatigue logic that is in this fm23. U cant counter pressing the entire game without being punished. Maybe this is something that can improve this tactic... someome must test it hehe
Chocorelo19 said: No I think mentality is spot on. Maybe I am saying that because we are the only ones who use it kidding aside you have a great base there and as there are almost no player instructions I think the key is there to hit higher score. We will see soon as more tactics will pop up! Again amazing score bro! GJ Expand
Underlap instruction made this shape score 4 points higher lmao There are hidden stuff that we didnt realized yet
Exellent said: What are the important skills needed to defensive wingers? Expand
just follow the attibute table testmade by the forum testers. Mainly position mastery, speed, acc... How it is a tactic with low number of PIs I advicw to pick someone with good CA for the leaguel tier level u r playing.
frisk424 was updated, I realized that the 424 we are using and performing at high scores on the table lack focus play down the flanks to the players move as a block. So, I would like to test this instruction, ty in advance
No but that's good idea man, u should put into test. As I said, im not expert on PIs. U gotta understand that my main intend here is to break opp defense through a diagonal pass by the DW. With the support role u may icrease the risk that dm is tanking and level up the system variability. Instead of a DLP this can be a better choice.
Any idea what team I could pick in serie A or la liga to play with your tactic without changing much in the squad? thanks
Well I guess that the tests made throught the custom league are with teams like Roma/Leverkusen. Choose someone with this tier/media predction...
Left for LDW/Right for RDW but u may test with inverted leg ^^ who knows what this tweak may bring?
gj bro
@ZaZ you should test it on fm23!
I made some slight twists but mainly with your ideas and its absolute beast, and definitely better than 4222 that's been the meta:
- On offense you are occupying channels with 7 players instead of 6 - nightmare for defense.
- On defense you are tracking back with 7 players instead of 6.
- Defensive wingers absolute key to the tactic - on offense they pinch back the opposition fullback and open up channels, while on defense provide immediate support to your DM.
- A lot of verticality due to inverted wing backs allowing strikers/shadow striker position higher up the pitch.
Probably will need to fine tune the TI's and PI's but congrats on laying a very strong foundation.
Nice twists u've made m8 ^_^, you should put for testing ^^. Unfortunelly PIs are not my strenght and I hope someone can fine tune Xmas in the next days. I guess I ll get some rest now lmao
Sane said: But you also removed play out of defense, this can also affect, you shouldn’t have removed it)
And the question, why do you refuse counter-pressing? Did you do better in tests?
But as a said, this is a tactic for good teams that relies on CA decision making so counter off gives the players the freedom to decide by themselves
maybe in a run with Nott Forest this can nerf the tactic for instance
And the question, why do you refuse counter-pressing? Did you do better in tests?
Yes (the forum tests shows that and for the same reason i took play out of fedense off), and the fatigue logic that is in this fm23. U cant counter pressing the entire game without being punished. Maybe this is something that can improve this tactic... someome must test it hehe
kidding aside you have a great base there and as there are almost no player instructions I think the key is there to hit higher score. We will see soon as more tactics will pop up! Again amazing score bro! GJ
Underlap instruction made this shape score 4 points higher lmao
There are hidden stuff that we didnt realized yet
hope u guys may test this tactic with other mentalities, I made based on the tatical inscructions made by the forum testers
just follow the attibute table testmade by the forum testers. Mainly position mastery, speed, acc... How it is a tactic with low number of PIs I advicw to pick someone with good CA for the leaguel tier level u r playing.
frisk424 was updated, I realized that the 424 we are using and performing at high scores on the table lack focus play down the flanks to the players move as a block. So, I would like to test this instruction, ty in advance