keithb said: Any chance you might answer any of the 12+ questions you always ignore from me?
Anyway
1.) Who called you retarded? Have you made this up again? Did it happen in your fantasy world? You dont respond in kind to a lot of people, so its utterly ridiculous to expect anyone to talk to you in that way.
2.) You tell people they are wrong all the time, only last week for example. Get serious lol. You have no grounds to do so. So if we all start doing our own testing, we can then declare you wrong all the time?
3.) People dont have to do their own testing. Its already been done by people with a proven track record, something you dont and probably never will have. In the real world, not the fantasy one you live in, people call on past experiments, tests, standings and rulings as evidence to say well no thats not correct. It might be its already been proven to be false, or the test has been tried and failed. So no one has to do their own testing, but they can use other peoples testing to say that yours is wrong and awful. Its not complicated.
There's a good chance this whole thing is a troll, you're actually a child or just not very well. Or some of two or all three. Something isn't quite right thats for sure. Expand
Hi there,
For the last time, using the post above as an example I'll try to explain what kind of communication is not acceptable on this forum.
First of all, being wrong about something in FM is a pretty normal thing. It happens all the time. Even the game developers sometimes are wrong about how the things work in the game because there might be bugs the which are unknown to them.
I don't want even mention us regular folks that don't have access to the game code, we are wrong about things in FM A LOT and this isn't a crime and no one should be attacked for being wrong about things in FM.
If you think that someone is wrong about something in FM, feel free to point at his mistakes and what's mostly important explain why he is wrong and THAT'S ENOUGH no need to use personal insults like "you're a child", "you're a troll" and so on, no need to zealously convince him that you're right and he's wrong.
Also, feel free to ask questions but if someone doesn't want to answer your questions then he is free not to do that, he is not obliged to answer your answer or communicate with you. You shouldn't attack someone for not answering your questions or refusing to communicate with you.
When you think someone is breaking the forum rules or insulting you then you SHOULD NOT fight it out in public, instead you should contact the moderators, for example, you can contact me via a personal message.
I hope my words are taken seriously and we won't back to it in the future.
Panneton0 said: Being fixated on position proficiency's impact, I'd be interested to know if we ever tried the impact of dropping player's proficiencies below 15. I feel like the 15 -> 20 position proficiency has little impact, but that it would drop significantly below 15. But it's just a feeling.
ZaZ said: It is a bit embarrassing to see those meaningless fights. This is just a game, made for entertainment. If anyone does not like another user, then you could just skip their threads and avoid replying to what they post. Attacking other users is not nice, and makes the entire environment sour. @Zippo Expand @keithb
Hi there,
I just want to make it clear.
Arguing with someone about something on the forum is a pretty normal thing and that's what the forum is meant for.
But personal insults ARE NOT OK and such behaviour won’t be tolerated.
If someone is confused about what personal insults are then it’s when you say to someone that "he's stupid”, "he's idiot", "he's retarded", "he's Bozo" and so on - such behavior IS NOT OK and as I said it won’t be tolerated.
This is the last warning. CUT OFF personal insults and keep it civil.
When I say “keep it civil” I mean that if you disagree with someone then feel free to explain your point of view on the subject without using personal insults.
CBP87 said: What was the issue you identified? Were any other tactic tests impacted by this issue? Expand
FMRTE just stopped working. I must add, it's a very rare thing, it has happened only a few times during the FM26 testing.
No other tactics were impacted by the issue.
Btw, we have an automatic protection against that issue, it checks the logs of every test to make sure whether everything was ok during the testing but the checking happens with some delay after tests.
ZaZ said: @Zippo, is this result legit or there was another issue with FRMT? I also got good results in my personal tests, but this difference is so big that it looks like previous times when FRMT license stopped working. Expand
Hi,
I've checked the testing server and everting seems fine.
As you may notice, we've been experimenting with the tactic evaluation, trying "Expected Goals or xG" based evaluation instead of "Points" based evaluation.
And it comes out "Expected Goals or xG" based evaluation isn't reliable, it has a serious issue.
At first look, "Expected Goals or xG" stat is more "attractive" because it fluctuates less than Points but it has a serious issue.
For example, when we evaluate tactics based on "Expected Goals or xG" then at the 1st place comes out a tactic that exploits the "Much Higher" defense line setting, which greatly increases "Goals For" but also increase "Goals Against" and hereby reduces the overall "Points" but the "xG Against" stat "sleeps" and "misses" the increased "Against" scoring changes that were happing due the "Much Higher" defense line, the "xG Against" stat doesn't increase enough to indicate the massive increase of "Goals Against" because for some reason the "xG Against" stat doesn't evaluate high enough those scoring chances but we can see that the "Goals Against" is massively increased and the Points is massively deceased due to that.
So, it has come out that "Expected Goals or xG" isn't reliable and soon, we are going to switch back to the Points based evaluating but we leave the "Expected Goals or xG" to be visible.
Soon, we're goin to provide you with "Expected Goals" data for each tactic test.
Internally, we already have tried to evaluate tactics based on "Expected Goals" and it seems that such evaluation produce about 50-60% more accurate results compared to evaluation that based on Points.
Every single run is 450 matches so it was tested for 53,550 matches in total.
Average Stats After 53,550 matches played:
Average Points = 83.4 PTS Average "Goals For" = 98.8 GF Average "Goals Against" = 47.3 GA Average "Goal Difference" = +51.5 GD
The Highest "Points" was achieved in Test #10 = 89.0 PTS The Lowest "Points" was achieved in Test #59 = 78.0 PTS
The Highest "Goals For" was achieved in Test #55 = 106.6 GF The Lowest "Goals For" was achieved in Test #49 = 92.8 GF
The Highest "Goals Against" was achieved in Test #37 = 52.8 GA The Lowest "Goals Against" was achieved in Test #32 = 42.2 GA
The Highest "Goals Difference" was achieved in Test #55 = +60.2 GD The Lowest "Goals Difference" was achieved in Test #88 = +42.4 GD
The highest difference in "Points" between single runs(450 matches) is 11 PTS.
So if we tested Diaboliq v17.3 only for 1 run(450 matches) then we could end up with a score of 78.0 PTS or with a score of 89.0 PTS and please notice, that is a 11 points difference and we're talking about here about 450 matches runs and not I even didn't mention 38 matches runs, which usually happen when you play the game in a normal way.
Now, just imagine how high the difference could be if we compare results of 38 matches runs.
PTS, GA, GA Data of 119 tests(53,550 matches) sorted by PTS Spoiler
PTS= 78.0 | GF = 93.9 | GA = 51.3 | GD = +42.6 | Test Number #59 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 78.0 | GF = 94.3 | GA = 49.3 | GD = +45.0 | Test Number #109 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 78.1 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 51.2 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #76 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 78.5 | GF = 96.0 | GA = 51.0 | GD = +45.0 | Test Number #46 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 79.2 | GF = 94.2 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +46.8 | Test Number #36 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 79.4 | GF = 96.0 | GA = 52.8 | GD = +43.2 | Test Number #37 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 79.5 | GF = 99.5 | GA = 49.7 | GD = +49.8 | Test Number #70 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 79.7 | GF = 97.8 | GA = 52.4 | GD = +45.4 | Test Number #16 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 79.7 | GF = 99.5 | GA = 51.3 | GD = +48.2 | Test Number #42 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.1 | GF = 92.8 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +46.4 | Test Number #49 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.3 | GF = 99.3 | GA = 50.8 | GD = +48.5 | Test Number #15 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.5 | GF = 98.3 | GA = 50.5 | GD = +47.8 | Test Number #72 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.5 | GF = 95.0 | GA = 51.3 | GD = +43.7 | Test Number #112 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.6 | GF = 96.0 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +48.2 | Test Number #17 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.6 | GF = 96.6 | GA = 45.9 | GD = +50.7 | Test Number #33 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.6 | GF = 94.9 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +46.8 | Test Number #117 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.7 | GF = 96.9 | GA = 43.2 | GD = +53.7 | Test Number #2 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.7 | GF = 96.4 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +48.4 | Test Number #26 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.0 | GF = 94.1 | GA = 51.7 | GD = +42.4 | Test Number #88 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.2 | GF = 96.4 | GA = 49.1 | GD = +47.3 | Test Number #24 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.3 | GF = 94.0 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +46.2 | Test Number #23 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.3 | GF = 98.7 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +51.2 | Test Number #63 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.3 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +51.0 | Test Number #105 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.4 | GF = 97.6 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +50.1 | Test Number #39 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.5 | GF = 96.9 | GA = 46.5 | GD = +50.4 | Test Number #35 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.5 | GF = 97.4 | GA = 50.7 | GD = +46.7 | Test Number #69 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.7 | GF = 96.8 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +51.5 | Test Number #83 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.8 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +50.4 | Test Number #57 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.8 | GF = 99.0 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +52.6 | Test Number #97 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.9 | GF = 94.2 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +48.9 | Test Number #65 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.0 | GF = 98.7 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +51.7 | Test Number #19 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.0 | GF = 97.4 | GA = 45.8 | GD = +51.6 | Test Number #41 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.0 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 50.3 | GD = +48.2 | Test Number #114 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.1 | GF = 99.6 | GA = 50.1 | GD = +49.5 | Test Number #60 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.1 | GF = 99.9 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +51.9 | Test Number #96 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.2 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +49.5 | Test Number #40 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.2 | GF = 98.2 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +50.6 | Test Number #53 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.2 | GF = 99.8 | GA = 47.7 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #106 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.2 | GF = 95.2 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +49.9 | Test Number #110 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.4 | GF = 98.2 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +50.4 | Test Number #44 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.4 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 49.6 | GD = +47.5 | Test Number #51 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.4 | GF = 97.8 | GA = 46.2 | GD = +51.6 | Test Number #54 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.5 | GF = 98.1 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #77 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.5 | GF = 94.3 | GA = 45.7 | GD = +48.6 | Test Number #113 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.6 | GF = 95.4 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +47.6 | Test Number #104 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.7 | GF = 97.3 | GA = 48.3 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #68 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.7 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 49.4 | GD = +47.7 | Test Number #85 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.8 | GF = 101.6 | GA = 49.9 | GD = +51.7 | Test Number #78 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.8 | GF = 98.1 | GA = 49.1 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #119 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.0 | GF = 98.9 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +51.5 | Test Number #13 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.0 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 46.2 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #47 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.0 | GF = 99.1 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +51.6 | Test Number #66 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.0 | GF = 97.9 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +49.9 | Test Number #94 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.2 | GF = 101.0 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +52.9 | Test Number #75 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.3 | GF = 97.7 | GA = 44.7 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #18 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.3 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 44.4 | GD = +52.7 | Test Number #22 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.3 | GF = 99.7 | GA = 48.7 | GD = +51.0 | Test Number #48 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.3 | GF = 100.1 | GA = 50.0 | GD = +50.1 | Test Number #99 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.5 | GF = 97.0 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +51.7 | Test Number #79 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.6 | GF = 95.8 | GA = 46.1 | GD = +49.7 | Test Number #20 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.6 | GF = 97.2 | GA = 43.8 | GD = +53.4 | Test Number #27 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.6 | GF = 100.1 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #100 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.6 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 47.1 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #115 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.7 | GF = 97.4 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +49.6 | Test Number #93 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.8 | GF = 99.1 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +51.1 | Test Number #111 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.9 | GF = 96.7 | GA = 46.5 | GD = +50.2 | Test Number #11 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.9 | GF = 100.3 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +52.9 | Test Number #31 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.9 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #84 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.9 | GF = 101.3 | GA = 48.5 | GD = +52.8 | Test Number #98 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.0 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 47.7 | GD = +51.5 | Test Number #64 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.1 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 46.1 | GD = +53.1 | Test Number #25 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.1 | GF = 98.0 | GA = 43.1 | GD = +54.9 | Test Number #43 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.1 | GF = 101.7 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +54.1 | Test Number #86 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.2 | GF = 96.4 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +49.4 | Test Number #45 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.2 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 45.6 | GD = +54.6 | Test Number #81 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.2 | GF = 99.1 | GA = 48.2 | GD = +50.9 | Test Number #107 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.3 | GF = 102.8 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +55.8 | Test Number #29 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.4 | GF = 96.5 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +51.2 | Test Number #4 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.5 | GF = 96.9 | GA = 46.6 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #89 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.5 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 44.6 | GD = +55.6 | Test Number #101 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.6 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 45.1 | GD = +54.1 | Test Number #58 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.7 | GF = 98.9 | GA = 46.8 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #21 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.7 | GF = 95.8 | GA = 45.9 | GD = +49.9 | Test Number #73 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.7 | GF = 101.1 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +53.3 | Test Number #82 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.7 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 45.0 | GD = +54.2 | Test Number #108 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.8 | GF = 100.4 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #103 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.9 | GF = 101.5 | GA = 47.1 | GD = +54.4 | Test Number #61 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.9 | GF = 100.3 | GA = 43.9 | GD = +56.4 | Test Number #67 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.9 | GF = 96.6 | GA = 46.3 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #92 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.0 | GF = 104.4 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +56.8 | Test Number #34 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.0 | GF = 102.9 | GA = 48.3 | GD = +54.6 | Test Number #50 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.0 | GF = 95.0 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +49.7 | Test Number #62 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.0 | GF = 102.3 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +54.5 | Test Number #90 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.0 | GF = 104.3 | GA = 48.3 | GD = +56.0 | Test Number #102 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.2 | GF = 96.6 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #38 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.2 | GF = 102.9 | GA = 49.9 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #87 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.3 | GF = 102.3 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +54.2 | Test Number #80 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.3 | GF = 100.7 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +53.3 | Test Number #95 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.4 | GF = 102.5 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +57.2 | Test Number #71 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.5 | GF = 98.3 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #7 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.5 | GF = 99.4 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +52.4 | Test Number #74 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.8 | GF = 98.7 | GA = 43.7 | GD = +55.0 | Test Number #118 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.9 | GF = 105.6 | GA = 49.3 | GD = +56.3 | Test Number #91 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 86.0 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 44.6 | GD = +55.6 | Test Number #5 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 86.0 | GF = 98.9 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +50.9 | Test Number #56 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 86.2 | GF = 100.6 | GA = 43.7 | GD = +56.9 | Test Number #52 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 86.2 | GF = 99.4 | GA = 45.0 | GD = +54.4 | Test Number #116 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 86.6 | GF = 100.6 | GA = 46.9 | GD = +53.7 | Test Number #8 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 86.7 | GF = 101.5 | GA = 47.2 | GD = +54.3 | Test Number #30 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 86.8 | GF = 103.5 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +55.7 | Test Number #12 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 87.1 | GF = 101.1 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +55.8 | Test Number #28 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 87.6 | GF = 102.8 | GA = 45.4 | GD = +57.4 | Test Number #1 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 87.6 | GF = 100.7 | GA = 42.2 | GD = +58.5 | Test Number #32 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 87.9 | GF = 100.5 | GA = 44.4 | GD = +56.1 | Test Number #6 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 88.0 | GF = 103.2 | GA = 43.3 | GD = +59.9 | Test Number #9 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 88.2 | GF = 99.9 | GA = 44.0 | GD = +55.9 | Test Number #3 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 88.2 | GF = 101.3 | GA = 47.1 | GD = +54.2 | Test Number #14 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 88.5 | GF = 106.6 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +60.2 | Test Number #55 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 89.0 | GF = 102.1 | GA = 44.3 | GD = +57.8 | Test Number #10 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS, GA, GA Data of 119 tests(53,550 matches) sorted by Test Number Spoiler
PTS= 87.6 | GF = 102.8 | GA = 45.4 | GD = +57.4 | Test Number #1 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.7 | GF = 96.9 | GA = 43.2 | GD = +53.7 | Test Number #2 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 88.2 | GF = 99.9 | GA = 44.0 | GD = +55.9 | Test Number #3 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.4 | GF = 96.5 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +51.2 | Test Number #4 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 86.0 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 44.6 | GD = +55.6 | Test Number #5 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 87.9 | GF = 100.5 | GA = 44.4 | GD = +56.1 | Test Number #6 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.5 | GF = 98.3 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #7 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 86.6 | GF = 100.6 | GA = 46.9 | GD = +53.7 | Test Number #8 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 88.0 | GF = 103.2 | GA = 43.3 | GD = +59.9 | Test Number #9 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 89.0 | GF = 102.1 | GA = 44.3 | GD = +57.8 | Test Number #10 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.9 | GF = 96.7 | GA = 46.5 | GD = +50.2 | Test Number #11 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 86.8 | GF = 103.5 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +55.7 | Test Number #12 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.0 | GF = 98.9 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +51.5 | Test Number #13 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 88.2 | GF = 101.3 | GA = 47.1 | GD = +54.2 | Test Number #14 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.3 | GF = 99.3 | GA = 50.8 | GD = +48.5 | Test Number #15 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 79.7 | GF = 97.8 | GA = 52.4 | GD = +45.4 | Test Number #16 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.6 | GF = 96.0 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +48.2 | Test Number #17 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.3 | GF = 97.7 | GA = 44.7 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #18 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.0 | GF = 98.7 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +51.7 | Test Number #19 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.6 | GF = 95.8 | GA = 46.1 | GD = +49.7 | Test Number #20 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.7 | GF = 98.9 | GA = 46.8 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #21 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.3 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 44.4 | GD = +52.7 | Test Number #22 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.3 | GF = 94.0 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +46.2 | Test Number #23 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.2 | GF = 96.4 | GA = 49.1 | GD = +47.3 | Test Number #24 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.1 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 46.1 | GD = +53.1 | Test Number #25 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.7 | GF = 96.4 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +48.4 | Test Number #26 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.6 | GF = 97.2 | GA = 43.8 | GD = +53.4 | Test Number #27 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 87.1 | GF = 101.1 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +55.8 | Test Number #28 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.3 | GF = 102.8 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +55.8 | Test Number #29 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 86.7 | GF = 101.5 | GA = 47.2 | GD = +54.3 | Test Number #30 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.9 | GF = 100.3 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +52.9 | Test Number #31 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 87.6 | GF = 100.7 | GA = 42.2 | GD = +58.5 | Test Number #32 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.6 | GF = 96.6 | GA = 45.9 | GD = +50.7 | Test Number #33 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.0 | GF = 104.4 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +56.8 | Test Number #34 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.5 | GF = 96.9 | GA = 46.5 | GD = +50.4 | Test Number #35 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 79.2 | GF = 94.2 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +46.8 | Test Number #36 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 79.4 | GF = 96.0 | GA = 52.8 | GD = +43.2 | Test Number #37 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.2 | GF = 96.6 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #38 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.4 | GF = 97.6 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +50.1 | Test Number #39 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.2 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +49.5 | Test Number #40 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.0 | GF = 97.4 | GA = 45.8 | GD = +51.6 | Test Number #41 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 79.7 | GF = 99.5 | GA = 51.3 | GD = +48.2 | Test Number #42 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.1 | GF = 98.0 | GA = 43.1 | GD = +54.9 | Test Number #43 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.4 | GF = 98.2 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +50.4 | Test Number #44 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.2 | GF = 96.4 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +49.4 | Test Number #45 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 78.5 | GF = 96.0 | GA = 51.0 | GD = +45.0 | Test Number #46 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.0 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 46.2 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #47 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.3 | GF = 99.7 | GA = 48.7 | GD = +51.0 | Test Number #48 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.1 | GF = 92.8 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +46.4 | Test Number #49 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.0 | GF = 102.9 | GA = 48.3 | GD = +54.6 | Test Number #50 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.4 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 49.6 | GD = +47.5 | Test Number #51 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 86.2 | GF = 100.6 | GA = 43.7 | GD = +56.9 | Test Number #52 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.2 | GF = 98.2 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +50.6 | Test Number #53 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.4 | GF = 97.8 | GA = 46.2 | GD = +51.6 | Test Number #54 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 88.5 | GF = 106.6 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +60.2 | Test Number #55 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 86.0 | GF = 98.9 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +50.9 | Test Number #56 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.8 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +50.4 | Test Number #57 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.6 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 45.1 | GD = +54.1 | Test Number #58 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 78.0 | GF = 93.9 | GA = 51.3 | GD = +42.6 | Test Number #59 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.1 | GF = 99.6 | GA = 50.1 | GD = +49.5 | Test Number #60 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.9 | GF = 101.5 | GA = 47.1 | GD = +54.4 | Test Number #61 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.0 | GF = 95.0 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +49.7 | Test Number #62 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.3 | GF = 98.7 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +51.2 | Test Number #63 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.0 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 47.7 | GD = +51.5 | Test Number #64 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.9 | GF = 94.2 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +48.9 | Test Number #65 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.0 | GF = 99.1 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +51.6 | Test Number #66 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.9 | GF = 100.3 | GA = 43.9 | GD = +56.4 | Test Number #67 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.7 | GF = 97.3 | GA = 48.3 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #68 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.5 | GF = 97.4 | GA = 50.7 | GD = +46.7 | Test Number #69 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 79.5 | GF = 99.5 | GA = 49.7 | GD = +49.8 | Test Number #70 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.4 | GF = 102.5 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +57.2 | Test Number #71 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.5 | GF = 98.3 | GA = 50.5 | GD = +47.8 | Test Number #72 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.7 | GF = 95.8 | GA = 45.9 | GD = +49.9 | Test Number #73 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.5 | GF = 99.4 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +52.4 | Test Number #74 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.2 | GF = 101.0 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +52.9 | Test Number #75 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 78.1 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 51.2 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #76 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.5 | GF = 98.1 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #77 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.8 | GF = 101.6 | GA = 49.9 | GD = +51.7 | Test Number #78 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.5 | GF = 97.0 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +51.7 | Test Number #79 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.3 | GF = 102.3 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +54.2 | Test Number #80 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.2 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 45.6 | GD = +54.6 | Test Number #81 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.7 | GF = 101.1 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +53.3 | Test Number #82 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.7 | GF = 96.8 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +51.5 | Test Number #83 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.9 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #84 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.7 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 49.4 | GD = +47.7 | Test Number #85 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.1 | GF = 101.7 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +54.1 | Test Number #86 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.2 | GF = 102.9 | GA = 49.9 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #87 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.0 | GF = 94.1 | GA = 51.7 | GD = +42.4 | Test Number #88 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.5 | GF = 96.9 | GA = 46.6 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #89 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.0 | GF = 102.3 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +54.5 | Test Number #90 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.9 | GF = 105.6 | GA = 49.3 | GD = +56.3 | Test Number #91 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.9 | GF = 96.6 | GA = 46.3 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #92 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.7 | GF = 97.4 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +49.6 | Test Number #93 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.0 | GF = 97.9 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +49.9 | Test Number #94 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.3 | GF = 100.7 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +53.3 | Test Number #95 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.1 | GF = 99.9 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +51.9 | Test Number #96 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.8 | GF = 99.0 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +52.6 | Test Number #97 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.9 | GF = 101.3 | GA = 48.5 | GD = +52.8 | Test Number #98 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.3 | GF = 100.1 | GA = 50.0 | GD = +50.1 | Test Number #99 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.6 | GF = 100.1 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #100 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.5 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 44.6 | GD = +55.6 | Test Number #101 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.0 | GF = 104.3 | GA = 48.3 | GD = +56.0 | Test Number #102 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.8 | GF = 100.4 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #103 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.6 | GF = 95.4 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +47.6 | Test Number #104 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 81.3 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +51.0 | Test Number #105 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.2 | GF = 99.8 | GA = 47.7 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #106 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.2 | GF = 99.1 | GA = 48.2 | GD = +50.9 | Test Number #107 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 84.7 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 45.0 | GD = +54.2 | Test Number #108 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 78.0 | GF = 94.3 | GA = 49.3 | GD = +45.0 | Test Number #109 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.2 | GF = 95.2 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +49.9 | Test Number #110 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.8 | GF = 99.1 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +51.1 | Test Number #111 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.5 | GF = 95.0 | GA = 51.3 | GD = +43.7 | Test Number #112 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.5 | GF = 94.3 | GA = 45.7 | GD = +48.6 | Test Number #113 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.0 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 50.3 | GD = +48.2 | Test Number #114 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 83.6 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 47.1 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #115 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 86.2 | GF = 99.4 | GA = 45.0 | GD = +54.4 | Test Number #116 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 80.6 | GF = 94.9 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +46.8 | Test Number #117 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 85.8 | GF = 98.7 | GA = 43.7 | GD = +55.0 | Test Number #118 | PLD 450 Matches PTS= 82.8 | GF = 98.1 | GA = 49.1 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #119 | PLD 450 Matches
If we take all the top scoring 5230 tactics that got from 82 to 86 Points in our tactic testing and test them for about 120 runs or 54,550 matches then they all will end up getting the same score, which is about 83 Points.
There's really no difference between 5230 tactics that scored 82 - 86 Points in our tactic testing but to see that it requires testing them for no less than about 55,000 matches which unfortunately, isn't a feasible task.
Also, we've tested what if we test tactics only for 38 matches instead of 1,350 - 5,400 marches as we do in our tactic testing league. Why? Because 38 matches is how many matches happen in an average league.
Guess what? The highest difference between runs was 25-30 PTS.
Speaking other words, if we create a league(38 matches) that consists of the following teams:
Barcelona Man City Real Madrid Arsenal PSG Bayern Munich Liverpool
And if we use the current top tactic Diaboliq v17.3 with any team in the league then after 38 matches our result would vary from 60 Pts to 90 Pts.
Yes! You aren't mistaken! In such league that consists of equal opponents using the same tactic would produce a result in a range between 60 Pts and 90 Pts!
Once more! Yes! There could be a 30 Pts difference between runs using the same tactic in such league.
This how random FM26 is and you should be aware of it.
But you may ask is it possible to achieve a consistent result? For example, is it possible to get 100+ points every season and winning the tile?
Yes, it's possible to achieve that but there's an important condition for that - your team must be much stronger that ANY other team in the league because a huge difference in the quality reduces the RNG of the result.
And that's why it hard to dominate top leagues in the game such Champions League, English Premier League or Spanish La Liga because to dominate them even using the most effective tactic you still need to have much better players that any other team in the league but there're many teams in those leagues that already have the best players in the game so it's just impossible to have much better players than those players.
OOP Position Rating = 1 ( Ineffectual ) PTS 72 | GD +30 | GF 75 | GA 45
CONCLUSION:
OOP Position Proficiency doesn't have any significant impact on the result.
It's much more beneficial to focus on the overall performance of OOP shape of your tactic and the attributes of your players rather then their proficiency in the OOP positions.
Also, it's important to notice that you don't have to train your player to play the OOP positions to see an increase of their proficiency in the OOP positions because their proficiency in the OOP positions should increase naturally just by playing matches.
Mark said: @Zippo is there an update on the "Precision of Test" numbers. This tactic was tested at 5400 matches and the precision numbers are the same as tactics tested at 1350 matches ie +/- 2 PTS | +/- 2 GF | +/- 2 GA. Expand
Hi,
We've adjusted the "Precision of Test" numbers across the table.
CBP87 said: @Zippo Can I ask, what is the default value of the attributes for the human controlled teams please? is it 10? Thanks Expand
Hi,
Every single attribute has a specific value and those specific values are based on the average values of 100 best players for the positions in the game.
With the default attributes of the players in the human controlled teams it got the following result in our tactic testing:
PTS 76 | GD +35 | GF 81 | GA 46 Winning 66% of possible points.
Now, let's REDUCE all the attributes of the players in the human controlled teams only just by "1(ONE) Point" and such action would mean that:
- the defenders in the human controlled teams have all their attributes worse just by 1 point than the defenders in the AI controlled teams.
- the midfielders in the human controlled teams have all their attributes worse just by 1 point than the midfielders in the AI controlled teams.
- the strikers in the human controlled teams have all their attributes worse just by 1 point than the strikers in the AI controlled teams.
And when we test the tactic with the 1 POINT DECREASED attributes we get the following result:
PTS 52 | GD +1 | GF 61 | GA 60 Winning 45% of possible points.
Ok, that was a huge drop in score about -24 points but this time let's INCREASE all the attributes of the players in the human controlled teams only just by "1(ONE) Point" and such action would mean that:
- the defenders in the human controlled teams have all their attributes better just by 1 point than the defenders in the AI controlled teams.
- the midfielders in the human controlled teams have all their attributes better just by 1 point than the midfielders in the AI controlled teams.
- the strikers in the human controlled teams have all their attributes better just by 1 point than the strikers in the AI controlled teams.
And when we test the tactic with the 1 POINT INCREASED attributes we get the following result:
PTS 93 | GD +66 | GF 100 | GA 34 Winning 82% of possible points.
As you can see making the attributes of your player only 1 point better than the attributes of your opponent's player boosted the result about 17 points, from 76 pts to 93 pts.
From the tests above we can conclude that if the attributes of your players are just 1 point worse than the attributes of your opponent's players then when playing against him and using this tactic 4231 fwxm newveggie v2 you can expect winning only about 45% of possible points.
BUT if the attributes of your players' are just 1 point better than the attributes of your opponent's players then when playing against him you can expect winning about 85% of possible point.
As you can see the difference in attributes make a huge impact on the result.
And only when the attributes flip from being 1 point worse to being 1 point better, you start winning 82% of possible points instead 45%. If we take 38 matches distance then it's a swing from 52 point to 93 points and I'd say it's freaking a lot.
I hope that after all that you understand if you struggle with your team in some league and you can't win the title because you only get only about 70-80 pts at the end of each season but it requires getting about 100 pts for wining the title then you understand that changing your tactic won't help in your situation, of course, assuming that you already play with one of high scoring tactics from our tactic testing, in your case you need to look for improving the attributes of your players because only that can boost your result by 20-30 points and win the title.
Unfortunately, the same issue has happened again but this time a different issue caused it.
For the last couple of days the tactic testing was happing without a proper attribute "freezing" in the test league.
That had about +/- 1-2 points impact on the result.
So we had to retest the tactics affected.
The issue caused it is a quick frustrating. The license of our FMRTE "silently" deactivated for an unknow reason and it just stopped working without throwing any errors.
We've reactivated it but now we need to retest the tactics that were uploaded in the last could of days.
Please accept our apologies for any inconveniences caused.
Anyway
1.) Who called you retarded? Have you made this up again? Did it happen in your fantasy world? You dont respond in kind to a lot of people, so its utterly ridiculous to expect anyone to talk to you in that way.
2.) You tell people they are wrong all the time, only last week for example. Get serious lol. You have no grounds to do so. So if we all start doing our own testing, we can then declare you wrong all the time?
3.) People dont have to do their own testing. Its already been done by people with a proven track record, something you dont and probably never will have. In the real world, not the fantasy one you live in, people call on past experiments, tests, standings and rulings as evidence to say well no thats not correct. It might be its already been proven to be false, or the test has been tried and failed. So no one has to do their own testing, but they can use other peoples testing to say that yours is wrong and awful. Its not complicated.
There's a good chance this whole thing is a troll, you're actually a child or just not very well. Or some of two or all three. Something isn't quite right thats for sure.
Hi there,
For the last time, using the post above as an example I'll try to explain what kind of communication is not acceptable on this forum.
First of all, being wrong about something in FM is a pretty normal thing. It happens all the time. Even the game developers sometimes are wrong about how the things work in the game because there might be bugs the which are unknown to them.
I don't want even mention us regular folks that don't have access to the game code, we are wrong about things in FM A LOT and this isn't a crime and no one should be attacked for being wrong about things in FM.
If you think that someone is wrong about something in FM, feel free to point at his mistakes and what's mostly important explain why he is wrong and THAT'S ENOUGH no need to use personal insults like "you're a child", "you're a troll" and so on, no need to zealously convince him that you're right and he's wrong.
Also, feel free to ask questions but if someone doesn't want to answer your questions then he is free not to do that, he is not obliged to answer your answer or communicate with you. You shouldn't attack someone for not answering your questions or refusing to communicate with you.
When you think someone is breaking the forum rules or insulting you then you SHOULD NOT fight it out in public, instead you should contact the moderators, for example, you can contact me via a personal message.
I hope my words are taken seriously and we won't back to it in the future.
Cheers.
Has this test ever checked that? @Zippo
Hi,
No, we haven't tested the impact of position proficiency below 15 value for FM24.
And for FM26 we tested only OOP proficiency rating - https://fm-arena.com/thread/18292-the-impact-of-oop-position-proficiency-on-the-result-fm26/
@Zippo
@keithb
Hi there,
I just want to make it clear.
Arguing with someone about something on the forum is a pretty normal thing and that's what the forum is meant for.
But personal insults ARE NOT OK and such behaviour won’t be tolerated.
If someone is confused about what personal insults are then it’s when you say to someone that "he's stupid”, "he's idiot", "he's retarded", "he's Bozo" and so on - such behavior IS NOT OK and as I said it won’t be tolerated.
This is the last warning. CUT OFF personal insults and keep it civil.
When I say “keep it civil” I mean that if you disagree with someone then feel free to explain your point of view on the subject without using personal insults.
I hope I made it clear.
Cheers.
FMRTE just stopped working. I must add, it's a very rare thing, it has happened only a few times during the FM26 testing.
No other tactics were impacted by the issue.
Btw, we have an automatic protection against that issue, it checks the logs of every test to make sure whether everything was ok during the testing but the checking happens with some delay after tests.
During the initial testing the FMRTE didn't work properly, the issue caused a slight higher score for the tactic.
We fixed FMRTE and re-tested the tactic with properly working FMRTE, the score was updated.
Soon, I'll check the logs to be sure that FMRTE wasn't bugged during the testing.
Yup, that was a fluke caused by FMRTE
The tactic have been re-tested and the result updated
Soon, I'll check the logs to be sure that FMRTE wasn't bugged during the testing.
Hi,
I've checked the testing server and everting seems fine.
So the result is legit.
We found that an issue happened during the testing of this tactic.
We've fixed the issue and re-tested the tactic.
The results of this tactic have been updated.
Cheers.
As you may notice, we've been experimenting with the tactic evaluation, trying "Expected Goals or xG" based evaluation instead of "Points" based evaluation.
And it comes out "Expected Goals or xG" based evaluation isn't reliable, it has a serious issue.
At first look, "Expected Goals or xG" stat is more "attractive" because it fluctuates less than Points but it has a serious issue.
For example, when we evaluate tactics based on "Expected Goals or xG" then at the 1st place comes out a tactic that exploits the "Much Higher" defense line setting, which greatly increases "Goals For" but also increase "Goals Against" and hereby reduces the overall "Points" but the "xG Against" stat "sleeps" and "misses" the increased "Against" scoring changes that were happing due the "Much Higher" defense line, the "xG Against" stat doesn't increase enough to indicate the massive increase of "Goals Against" because for some reason the "xG Against" stat doesn't evaluate high enough those scoring chances but we can see that the "Goals Against" is massively increased and the Points is massively deceased due to that.
https://fm-arena.com/thread/18077-barbie-v36/
So, it has come out that "Expected Goals or xG" isn't reliable and soon, we are going to switch back to the Points based evaluating but we leave the "Expected Goals or xG" to be visible.
Cheers.
Soon, we're goin to provide you with "Expected Goals" data for each tactic test.
Internally, we already have tried to evaluate tactics based on "Expected Goals" and it seems that such evaluation produce about 50-60% more accurate results compared to evaluation that based on Points.
So, stay tuned!
Cheers.
Here's testing data for Diaboliq v17.3 tactic.
The tactic was tested for 119 runs.
Every single run is 450 matches so it was tested for 53,550 matches in total.
Average Stats After 53,550 matches played:
Average Points = 83.4 PTS
Average "Goals For" = 98.8 GF
Average "Goals Against" = 47.3 GA
Average "Goal Difference" = +51.5 GD
The Highest "Points" was achieved in Test #10 = 89.0 PTS
The Lowest "Points" was achieved in Test #59 = 78.0 PTS
The Highest "Goals For" was achieved in Test #55 = 106.6 GF
The Lowest "Goals For" was achieved in Test #49 = 92.8 GF
The Highest "Goals Against" was achieved in Test #37 = 52.8 GA
The Lowest "Goals Against" was achieved in Test #32 = 42.2 GA
The Highest "Goals Difference" was achieved in Test #55 = +60.2 GD
The Lowest "Goals Difference" was achieved in Test #88 = +42.4 GD
The highest difference in "Points" between single runs(450 matches) is 11 PTS.
So if we tested Diaboliq v17.3 only for 1 run(450 matches) then we could end up with a score of 78.0 PTS or with a score of 89.0 PTS and please notice, that is a 11 points difference and we're talking about here about 450 matches runs and not I even didn't mention 38 matches runs, which usually happen when you play the game in a normal way.
Now, just imagine how high the difference could be if we compare results of 38 matches runs.
PTS, GA, GA Data of 119 tests(53,550 matches) sorted by PTS
Spoiler PTS= 78.0 | GF = 93.9 | GA = 51.3 | GD = +42.6 | Test Number #59 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 78.0 | GF = 94.3 | GA = 49.3 | GD = +45.0 | Test Number #109 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 78.1 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 51.2 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #76 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 78.5 | GF = 96.0 | GA = 51.0 | GD = +45.0 | Test Number #46 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 79.2 | GF = 94.2 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +46.8 | Test Number #36 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 79.4 | GF = 96.0 | GA = 52.8 | GD = +43.2 | Test Number #37 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 79.5 | GF = 99.5 | GA = 49.7 | GD = +49.8 | Test Number #70 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 79.7 | GF = 97.8 | GA = 52.4 | GD = +45.4 | Test Number #16 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 79.7 | GF = 99.5 | GA = 51.3 | GD = +48.2 | Test Number #42 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.1 | GF = 92.8 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +46.4 | Test Number #49 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.3 | GF = 99.3 | GA = 50.8 | GD = +48.5 | Test Number #15 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.5 | GF = 98.3 | GA = 50.5 | GD = +47.8 | Test Number #72 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.5 | GF = 95.0 | GA = 51.3 | GD = +43.7 | Test Number #112 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.6 | GF = 96.0 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +48.2 | Test Number #17 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.6 | GF = 96.6 | GA = 45.9 | GD = +50.7 | Test Number #33 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.6 | GF = 94.9 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +46.8 | Test Number #117 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.7 | GF = 96.9 | GA = 43.2 | GD = +53.7 | Test Number #2 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.7 | GF = 96.4 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +48.4 | Test Number #26 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.0 | GF = 94.1 | GA = 51.7 | GD = +42.4 | Test Number #88 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.2 | GF = 96.4 | GA = 49.1 | GD = +47.3 | Test Number #24 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.3 | GF = 94.0 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +46.2 | Test Number #23 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.3 | GF = 98.7 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +51.2 | Test Number #63 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.3 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +51.0 | Test Number #105 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.4 | GF = 97.6 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +50.1 | Test Number #39 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.5 | GF = 96.9 | GA = 46.5 | GD = +50.4 | Test Number #35 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.5 | GF = 97.4 | GA = 50.7 | GD = +46.7 | Test Number #69 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.7 | GF = 96.8 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +51.5 | Test Number #83 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.8 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +50.4 | Test Number #57 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.8 | GF = 99.0 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +52.6 | Test Number #97 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.9 | GF = 94.2 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +48.9 | Test Number #65 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.0 | GF = 98.7 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +51.7 | Test Number #19 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.0 | GF = 97.4 | GA = 45.8 | GD = +51.6 | Test Number #41 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.0 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 50.3 | GD = +48.2 | Test Number #114 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.1 | GF = 99.6 | GA = 50.1 | GD = +49.5 | Test Number #60 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.1 | GF = 99.9 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +51.9 | Test Number #96 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.2 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +49.5 | Test Number #40 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.2 | GF = 98.2 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +50.6 | Test Number #53 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.2 | GF = 99.8 | GA = 47.7 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #106 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.2 | GF = 95.2 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +49.9 | Test Number #110 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.4 | GF = 98.2 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +50.4 | Test Number #44 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.4 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 49.6 | GD = +47.5 | Test Number #51 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.4 | GF = 97.8 | GA = 46.2 | GD = +51.6 | Test Number #54 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.5 | GF = 98.1 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #77 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.5 | GF = 94.3 | GA = 45.7 | GD = +48.6 | Test Number #113 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.6 | GF = 95.4 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +47.6 | Test Number #104 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.7 | GF = 97.3 | GA = 48.3 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #68 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.7 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 49.4 | GD = +47.7 | Test Number #85 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.8 | GF = 101.6 | GA = 49.9 | GD = +51.7 | Test Number #78 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.8 | GF = 98.1 | GA = 49.1 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #119 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.0 | GF = 98.9 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +51.5 | Test Number #13 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.0 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 46.2 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #47 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.0 | GF = 99.1 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +51.6 | Test Number #66 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.0 | GF = 97.9 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +49.9 | Test Number #94 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.2 | GF = 101.0 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +52.9 | Test Number #75 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.3 | GF = 97.7 | GA = 44.7 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #18 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.3 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 44.4 | GD = +52.7 | Test Number #22 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.3 | GF = 99.7 | GA = 48.7 | GD = +51.0 | Test Number #48 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.3 | GF = 100.1 | GA = 50.0 | GD = +50.1 | Test Number #99 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.5 | GF = 97.0 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +51.7 | Test Number #79 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.6 | GF = 95.8 | GA = 46.1 | GD = +49.7 | Test Number #20 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.6 | GF = 97.2 | GA = 43.8 | GD = +53.4 | Test Number #27 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.6 | GF = 100.1 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #100 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.6 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 47.1 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #115 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.7 | GF = 97.4 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +49.6 | Test Number #93 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.8 | GF = 99.1 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +51.1 | Test Number #111 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.9 | GF = 96.7 | GA = 46.5 | GD = +50.2 | Test Number #11 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.9 | GF = 100.3 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +52.9 | Test Number #31 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.9 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #84 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.9 | GF = 101.3 | GA = 48.5 | GD = +52.8 | Test Number #98 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.0 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 47.7 | GD = +51.5 | Test Number #64 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.1 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 46.1 | GD = +53.1 | Test Number #25 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.1 | GF = 98.0 | GA = 43.1 | GD = +54.9 | Test Number #43 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.1 | GF = 101.7 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +54.1 | Test Number #86 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.2 | GF = 96.4 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +49.4 | Test Number #45 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.2 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 45.6 | GD = +54.6 | Test Number #81 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.2 | GF = 99.1 | GA = 48.2 | GD = +50.9 | Test Number #107 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.3 | GF = 102.8 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +55.8 | Test Number #29 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.4 | GF = 96.5 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +51.2 | Test Number #4 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.5 | GF = 96.9 | GA = 46.6 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #89 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.5 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 44.6 | GD = +55.6 | Test Number #101 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.6 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 45.1 | GD = +54.1 | Test Number #58 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.7 | GF = 98.9 | GA = 46.8 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #21 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.7 | GF = 95.8 | GA = 45.9 | GD = +49.9 | Test Number #73 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.7 | GF = 101.1 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +53.3 | Test Number #82 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.7 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 45.0 | GD = +54.2 | Test Number #108 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.8 | GF = 100.4 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #103 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.9 | GF = 101.5 | GA = 47.1 | GD = +54.4 | Test Number #61 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.9 | GF = 100.3 | GA = 43.9 | GD = +56.4 | Test Number #67 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.9 | GF = 96.6 | GA = 46.3 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #92 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.0 | GF = 104.4 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +56.8 | Test Number #34 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.0 | GF = 102.9 | GA = 48.3 | GD = +54.6 | Test Number #50 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.0 | GF = 95.0 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +49.7 | Test Number #62 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.0 | GF = 102.3 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +54.5 | Test Number #90 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.0 | GF = 104.3 | GA = 48.3 | GD = +56.0 | Test Number #102 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.2 | GF = 96.6 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #38 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.2 | GF = 102.9 | GA = 49.9 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #87 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.3 | GF = 102.3 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +54.2 | Test Number #80 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.3 | GF = 100.7 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +53.3 | Test Number #95 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.4 | GF = 102.5 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +57.2 | Test Number #71 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.5 | GF = 98.3 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #7 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.5 | GF = 99.4 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +52.4 | Test Number #74 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.8 | GF = 98.7 | GA = 43.7 | GD = +55.0 | Test Number #118 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.9 | GF = 105.6 | GA = 49.3 | GD = +56.3 | Test Number #91 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 86.0 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 44.6 | GD = +55.6 | Test Number #5 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 86.0 | GF = 98.9 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +50.9 | Test Number #56 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 86.2 | GF = 100.6 | GA = 43.7 | GD = +56.9 | Test Number #52 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 86.2 | GF = 99.4 | GA = 45.0 | GD = +54.4 | Test Number #116 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 86.6 | GF = 100.6 | GA = 46.9 | GD = +53.7 | Test Number #8 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 86.7 | GF = 101.5 | GA = 47.2 | GD = +54.3 | Test Number #30 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 86.8 | GF = 103.5 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +55.7 | Test Number #12 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 87.1 | GF = 101.1 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +55.8 | Test Number #28 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 87.6 | GF = 102.8 | GA = 45.4 | GD = +57.4 | Test Number #1 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 87.6 | GF = 100.7 | GA = 42.2 | GD = +58.5 | Test Number #32 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 87.9 | GF = 100.5 | GA = 44.4 | GD = +56.1 | Test Number #6 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 88.0 | GF = 103.2 | GA = 43.3 | GD = +59.9 | Test Number #9 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 88.2 | GF = 99.9 | GA = 44.0 | GD = +55.9 | Test Number #3 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 88.2 | GF = 101.3 | GA = 47.1 | GD = +54.2 | Test Number #14 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 88.5 | GF = 106.6 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +60.2 | Test Number #55 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 89.0 | GF = 102.1 | GA = 44.3 | GD = +57.8 | Test Number #10 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS, GA, GA Data of 119 tests(53,550 matches) sorted by Test Number
Spoiler PTS= 87.6 | GF = 102.8 | GA = 45.4 | GD = +57.4 | Test Number #1 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.7 | GF = 96.9 | GA = 43.2 | GD = +53.7 | Test Number #2 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 88.2 | GF = 99.9 | GA = 44.0 | GD = +55.9 | Test Number #3 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.4 | GF = 96.5 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +51.2 | Test Number #4 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 86.0 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 44.6 | GD = +55.6 | Test Number #5 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 87.9 | GF = 100.5 | GA = 44.4 | GD = +56.1 | Test Number #6 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.5 | GF = 98.3 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #7 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 86.6 | GF = 100.6 | GA = 46.9 | GD = +53.7 | Test Number #8 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 88.0 | GF = 103.2 | GA = 43.3 | GD = +59.9 | Test Number #9 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 89.0 | GF = 102.1 | GA = 44.3 | GD = +57.8 | Test Number #10 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.9 | GF = 96.7 | GA = 46.5 | GD = +50.2 | Test Number #11 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 86.8 | GF = 103.5 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +55.7 | Test Number #12 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.0 | GF = 98.9 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +51.5 | Test Number #13 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 88.2 | GF = 101.3 | GA = 47.1 | GD = +54.2 | Test Number #14 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.3 | GF = 99.3 | GA = 50.8 | GD = +48.5 | Test Number #15 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 79.7 | GF = 97.8 | GA = 52.4 | GD = +45.4 | Test Number #16 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.6 | GF = 96.0 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +48.2 | Test Number #17 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.3 | GF = 97.7 | GA = 44.7 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #18 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.0 | GF = 98.7 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +51.7 | Test Number #19 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.6 | GF = 95.8 | GA = 46.1 | GD = +49.7 | Test Number #20 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.7 | GF = 98.9 | GA = 46.8 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #21 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.3 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 44.4 | GD = +52.7 | Test Number #22 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.3 | GF = 94.0 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +46.2 | Test Number #23 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.2 | GF = 96.4 | GA = 49.1 | GD = +47.3 | Test Number #24 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.1 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 46.1 | GD = +53.1 | Test Number #25 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.7 | GF = 96.4 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +48.4 | Test Number #26 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.6 | GF = 97.2 | GA = 43.8 | GD = +53.4 | Test Number #27 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 87.1 | GF = 101.1 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +55.8 | Test Number #28 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.3 | GF = 102.8 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +55.8 | Test Number #29 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 86.7 | GF = 101.5 | GA = 47.2 | GD = +54.3 | Test Number #30 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.9 | GF = 100.3 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +52.9 | Test Number #31 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 87.6 | GF = 100.7 | GA = 42.2 | GD = +58.5 | Test Number #32 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.6 | GF = 96.6 | GA = 45.9 | GD = +50.7 | Test Number #33 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.0 | GF = 104.4 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +56.8 | Test Number #34 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.5 | GF = 96.9 | GA = 46.5 | GD = +50.4 | Test Number #35 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 79.2 | GF = 94.2 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +46.8 | Test Number #36 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 79.4 | GF = 96.0 | GA = 52.8 | GD = +43.2 | Test Number #37 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.2 | GF = 96.6 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #38 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.4 | GF = 97.6 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +50.1 | Test Number #39 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.2 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +49.5 | Test Number #40 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.0 | GF = 97.4 | GA = 45.8 | GD = +51.6 | Test Number #41 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 79.7 | GF = 99.5 | GA = 51.3 | GD = +48.2 | Test Number #42 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.1 | GF = 98.0 | GA = 43.1 | GD = +54.9 | Test Number #43 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.4 | GF = 98.2 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +50.4 | Test Number #44 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.2 | GF = 96.4 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +49.4 | Test Number #45 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 78.5 | GF = 96.0 | GA = 51.0 | GD = +45.0 | Test Number #46 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.0 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 46.2 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #47 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.3 | GF = 99.7 | GA = 48.7 | GD = +51.0 | Test Number #48 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.1 | GF = 92.8 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +46.4 | Test Number #49 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.0 | GF = 102.9 | GA = 48.3 | GD = +54.6 | Test Number #50 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.4 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 49.6 | GD = +47.5 | Test Number #51 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 86.2 | GF = 100.6 | GA = 43.7 | GD = +56.9 | Test Number #52 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.2 | GF = 98.2 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +50.6 | Test Number #53 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.4 | GF = 97.8 | GA = 46.2 | GD = +51.6 | Test Number #54 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 88.5 | GF = 106.6 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +60.2 | Test Number #55 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 86.0 | GF = 98.9 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +50.9 | Test Number #56 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.8 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +50.4 | Test Number #57 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.6 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 45.1 | GD = +54.1 | Test Number #58 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 78.0 | GF = 93.9 | GA = 51.3 | GD = +42.6 | Test Number #59 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.1 | GF = 99.6 | GA = 50.1 | GD = +49.5 | Test Number #60 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.9 | GF = 101.5 | GA = 47.1 | GD = +54.4 | Test Number #61 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.0 | GF = 95.0 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +49.7 | Test Number #62 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.3 | GF = 98.7 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +51.2 | Test Number #63 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.0 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 47.7 | GD = +51.5 | Test Number #64 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.9 | GF = 94.2 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +48.9 | Test Number #65 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.0 | GF = 99.1 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +51.6 | Test Number #66 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.9 | GF = 100.3 | GA = 43.9 | GD = +56.4 | Test Number #67 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.7 | GF = 97.3 | GA = 48.3 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #68 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.5 | GF = 97.4 | GA = 50.7 | GD = +46.7 | Test Number #69 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 79.5 | GF = 99.5 | GA = 49.7 | GD = +49.8 | Test Number #70 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.4 | GF = 102.5 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +57.2 | Test Number #71 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.5 | GF = 98.3 | GA = 50.5 | GD = +47.8 | Test Number #72 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.7 | GF = 95.8 | GA = 45.9 | GD = +49.9 | Test Number #73 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.5 | GF = 99.4 | GA = 47.0 | GD = +52.4 | Test Number #74 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.2 | GF = 101.0 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +52.9 | Test Number #75 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 78.1 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 51.2 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #76 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.5 | GF = 98.1 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #77 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.8 | GF = 101.6 | GA = 49.9 | GD = +51.7 | Test Number #78 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.5 | GF = 97.0 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +51.7 | Test Number #79 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.3 | GF = 102.3 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +54.2 | Test Number #80 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.2 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 45.6 | GD = +54.6 | Test Number #81 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.7 | GF = 101.1 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +53.3 | Test Number #82 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.7 | GF = 96.8 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +51.5 | Test Number #83 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.9 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #84 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.7 | GF = 97.1 | GA = 49.4 | GD = +47.7 | Test Number #85 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.1 | GF = 101.7 | GA = 47.6 | GD = +54.1 | Test Number #86 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.2 | GF = 102.9 | GA = 49.9 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #87 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.0 | GF = 94.1 | GA = 51.7 | GD = +42.4 | Test Number #88 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.5 | GF = 96.9 | GA = 46.6 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #89 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.0 | GF = 102.3 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +54.5 | Test Number #90 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.9 | GF = 105.6 | GA = 49.3 | GD = +56.3 | Test Number #91 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.9 | GF = 96.6 | GA = 46.3 | GD = +50.3 | Test Number #92 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.7 | GF = 97.4 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +49.6 | Test Number #93 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.0 | GF = 97.9 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +49.9 | Test Number #94 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.3 | GF = 100.7 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +53.3 | Test Number #95 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.1 | GF = 99.9 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +51.9 | Test Number #96 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.8 | GF = 99.0 | GA = 46.4 | GD = +52.6 | Test Number #97 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.9 | GF = 101.3 | GA = 48.5 | GD = +52.8 | Test Number #98 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.3 | GF = 100.1 | GA = 50.0 | GD = +50.1 | Test Number #99 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.6 | GF = 100.1 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #100 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.5 | GF = 100.2 | GA = 44.6 | GD = +55.6 | Test Number #101 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.0 | GF = 104.3 | GA = 48.3 | GD = +56.0 | Test Number #102 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.8 | GF = 100.4 | GA = 47.4 | GD = +53.0 | Test Number #103 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.6 | GF = 95.4 | GA = 47.8 | GD = +47.6 | Test Number #104 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 81.3 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 47.5 | GD = +51.0 | Test Number #105 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.2 | GF = 99.8 | GA = 47.7 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #106 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.2 | GF = 99.1 | GA = 48.2 | GD = +50.9 | Test Number #107 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 84.7 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 45.0 | GD = +54.2 | Test Number #108 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 78.0 | GF = 94.3 | GA = 49.3 | GD = +45.0 | Test Number #109 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.2 | GF = 95.2 | GA = 45.3 | GD = +49.9 | Test Number #110 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.8 | GF = 99.1 | GA = 48.0 | GD = +51.1 | Test Number #111 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.5 | GF = 95.0 | GA = 51.3 | GD = +43.7 | Test Number #112 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.5 | GF = 94.3 | GA = 45.7 | GD = +48.6 | Test Number #113 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.0 | GF = 98.5 | GA = 50.3 | GD = +48.2 | Test Number #114 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 83.6 | GF = 99.2 | GA = 47.1 | GD = +52.1 | Test Number #115 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 86.2 | GF = 99.4 | GA = 45.0 | GD = +54.4 | Test Number #116 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 80.6 | GF = 94.9 | GA = 48.1 | GD = +46.8 | Test Number #117 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 85.8 | GF = 98.7 | GA = 43.7 | GD = +55.0 | Test Number #118 | PLD 450 Matches
PTS= 82.8 | GF = 98.1 | GA = 49.1 | GD = +49.0 | Test Number #119 | PLD 450 Matches
If we take all the top scoring 5230 tactics that got from 82 to 86 Points in our tactic testing and test them for about 120 runs or 54,550 matches then they all will end up getting the same score, which is about 83 Points.
There's really no difference between 5230 tactics that scored 82 - 86 Points in our tactic testing but to see that it requires testing them for no less than about 55,000 matches which unfortunately, isn't a feasible task.
Also, we've tested what if we test tactics only for 38 matches instead of 1,350 - 5,400 marches as we do in our tactic testing league. Why? Because 38 matches is how many matches happen in an average league.
Guess what? The highest difference between runs was 25-30 PTS.
Speaking other words, if we create a league(38 matches) that consists of the following teams:
Barcelona
Man City
Real Madrid
Arsenal
PSG
Bayern Munich
Liverpool
And if we use the current top tactic Diaboliq v17.3 with any team in the league then after 38 matches our result would vary from 60 Pts to 90 Pts.
Yes! You aren't mistaken! In such league that consists of equal opponents using the same tactic would produce a result in a range between 60 Pts and 90 Pts!
Once more! Yes! There could be a 30 Pts difference between runs using the same tactic in such league.
This how random FM26 is and you should be aware of it.
But you may ask is it possible to achieve a consistent result? For example, is it possible to get 100+ points every season and winning the tile?
Yes, it's possible to achieve that but there's an important condition for that - your team must be much stronger that ANY other team in the league because a huge difference in the quality reduces the RNG of the result.
And that's why it hard to dominate top leagues in the game such Champions League, English Premier League or Spanish La Liga because to dominate them even using the most effective tactic you still need to have much better players that any other team in the league but there're many teams in those leagues that already have the best players in the game so it's just impossible to have much better players than those players.
This test gives a good clue what impact the OOP position's proficiency has on the result.
The team shape below was used for the test:
OOP Position Rating = 20 ( Natural )
PTS 76 | GD +35 | GF 77 | GA 42
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OOP Position Rating = 15 ( Accomplished )
PTS 74 | GD +34 | GF 77 | GA 43
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OOP Position Rating = 13 ( Competent )
PTS 73 | GD +32 | GF 76 | GA 44
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OOP Position Rating = 1 ( Ineffectual )
PTS 72 | GD +30 | GF 75 | GA 45
CONCLUSION:
OOP Position Proficiency doesn't have any significant impact on the result.
It's much more beneficial to focus on the overall performance of OOP shape of your tactic and the attributes of your players rather then their proficiency in the OOP positions.
Also, it's important to notice that you don't have to train your player to play the OOP positions to see an increase of their proficiency in the OOP positions because their proficiency in the OOP positions should increase naturally just by playing matches.
We're testing it.
Soon, I'll post results.
Hi,
We've adjusted the "Precision of Test" numbers across the table.
Cheers.
Hi,
Every single attribute has a specific value and those specific values are based on the average values of 100 best players for the positions in the game.
I want to bring up a very import topic because from my experience, it's one of the most confusing areas for most people playing FM.
Let's take this tactic from our tactic testing - 4231 fwxm newveggie v2
With the default attributes of the players in the human controlled teams it got the following result in our tactic testing:
PTS 76 | GD +35 | GF 81 | GA 46
Winning 66% of possible points.
Now, let's REDUCE all the attributes of the players in the human controlled teams only just by "1(ONE) Point" and such action would mean that:
- the defenders in the human controlled teams have all their attributes worse just by 1 point than the defenders in the AI controlled teams.
- the midfielders in the human controlled teams have all their attributes worse just by 1 point than the midfielders in the AI controlled teams.
- the strikers in the human controlled teams have all their attributes worse just by 1 point than the strikers in the AI controlled teams.
And when we test the tactic with the 1 POINT DECREASED attributes we get the following result:
PTS 52 | GD +1 | GF 61 | GA 60
Winning 45% of possible points.
Ok, that was a huge drop in score about -24 points but this time let's INCREASE all the attributes of the players in the human controlled teams only just by "1(ONE) Point" and such action would mean that:
- the defenders in the human controlled teams have all their attributes better just by 1 point than the defenders in the AI controlled teams.
- the midfielders in the human controlled teams have all their attributes better just by 1 point than the midfielders in the AI controlled teams.
- the strikers in the human controlled teams have all their attributes better just by 1 point than the strikers in the AI controlled teams.
And when we test the tactic with the 1 POINT INCREASED attributes we get the following result:
PTS 93 | GD +66 | GF 100 | GA 34
Winning 82% of possible points.
As you can see making the attributes of your player only 1 point better than the attributes of your opponent's player boosted the result about 17 points, from 76 pts to 93 pts.
From the tests above we can conclude that if the attributes of your players are just 1 point worse than the attributes of your opponent's players then when playing against him and using this tactic 4231 fwxm newveggie v2 you can expect winning only about 45% of possible points.
BUT if the attributes of your players' are just 1 point better than the attributes of your opponent's players then when playing against him you can expect winning about 85% of possible point.
As you can see the difference in attributes make a huge impact on the result.
And only when the attributes flip from being 1 point worse to being 1 point better, you start winning 82% of possible points instead 45%. If we take 38 matches distance then it's a swing from 52 point to 93 points and I'd say it's freaking a lot.
On top of that, pay attention to the fact that some attributes make much bigger impact on the result than other attributes - https://fm-arena.com/thread/14009-attribute-testing-football-manager-24/
I hope that after all that you understand if you struggle with your team in some league and you can't win the title because you only get only about 70-80 pts at the end of each season but it requires getting about 100 pts for wining the title then you understand that changing your tactic won't help in your situation, of course, assuming that you already play with one of high scoring tactics from our tactic testing, in your case you need to look for improving the attributes of your players because only that can boost your result by 20-30 points and win the title.
Cheers.
If you remember, recently, we had to retest some tactics. More info - https://fm-arena.com/thread/17779-some-tactics-of-26-1-3-patch-is-going-to-be-retested/
Unfortunately, the same issue has happened again but this time a different issue caused it.
For the last couple of days the tactic testing was happing without a proper attribute "freezing" in the test league.
That had about +/- 1-2 points impact on the result.
So we had to retest the tactics affected.
The issue caused it is a quick frustrating. The license of our FMRTE "silently" deactivated for an unknow reason and it just stopped working without throwing any errors.
We've reactivated it but now we need to retest the tactics that were uploaded in the last could of days.
Please accept our apologies for any inconveniences caused.
Cheers.
The tactic testing data for the 26.1.3 patch is correct now.
Cheers.
The usual notification should appear as after each retest.
And in addition when the resting is over for more visibility I'll post in this thread that it's over.