I've been playing with this tactic for some time and I really like it. It's a very nice goal scoring tactic and it's quite easy to build your team for it. Well done.
No doubt, that some attributes such as Acceleration, Pace, Agility and Dribbling are very overpowered in FM21. I think it's somehow in line with what we see in real life.
dakiri said: oh wow. My apologies for not doing the research, I didn't realize there was already such a similar tactic. Yes, Valhalla is basically the same thing. My guess is that mine might score a little more but would probably be much less successful overall, so it's fine if this doesn't deserve a test - and I'll look at other similar tactics more before I submit again! Expand
They aren't the same. There's enough difference between them. I think your tactic's worth testing.
mau do passado said: Anyone struggling with the DM position? Average rating doesn't get any higher then 6.7/6.8. I've tried this tactic with different teams and players in that position, always with the same result. For example, i'm playing with Daniel Bragança now, in 16 appearances he has an average rating of 6.79. Thanks!! Expand
As @ZaZ said 6.7/6.8 rating is a normal rating for DM position.
In general, very often the way the game gives ratings looks unfair for some positions and SI always try improves it. There have been many patches where SI adjusted the rating algorithm but as you can see it's still far from perfect and some position get lower ratings than other positions no matter what.
crazyfmguy93 said: I try it with Karabükspor. Media Prediction is 20. Not successful neither. I think it is not good with small team. My team defenders are shooting the ball forward without aim and opponent's attack start. Expand
Here's my result with Karabükspor.
The team was predicted to finish the 20th place and also had -3 points deduction at the begging of the season.
I finished the 2nd place and I find it's a great result.
Mark said: @Droid and @Zippo I would be interested in your thoughts on the original question. How do we test the tactics for the Lower Leagues. That was all I was attempting to do. Viola was only behind due to performance with lower ranked sides. I think they were all impressive in my tests but my observation was there was a small but measurable difference. Expand
If you want to know my experience then whatever tactic I test I get better results in the lower leagues than in the top leagues and I find it's quite logical because it's obvious that in the lower leagues the AI managers are less "smarter" than the AI managers in the top leagues. Yes, the players are also are less "smarter" in the lower leagues but they are less smarter not only for you but for the AI managers too so you are on par.
I'd say if you find a tactic that allows you winning the title in EPL or La Lige with a mid table team then you'll be killing everyone with this tactic in the lower league.
Mark said: ZaZ Blue 2.0 is 3.977% higher than Phoenix V3.0 and 8.525% higher than Viola V1. Phoenix V3.0 is 4.374% higher than Viola V1
All these are above your 3.5% threshold. Expand
For me that proves that you can't test tactics by just plugging them and pushing "On Holiday" button. I understand why people tend to test tactics this way because it the simplest way to test, it doesn't require any skill or any efforts but it also gives an inaccurate result even after 1600 matches because the impact of random factors is very significant in this case, any injuries of the key players in your team or any injuries of the key players in the opposition team have a great impact on the result and they can turn everything apart.
Also, the assistant manager is responsible for managing the morale, picking the starting eleven for the tactic but it's been proven many times that even the best assistant manager is very poor at piking the team for many different tactics and he isn't capable managing any morale issue so it's like play roulette.
ta2199 said: @healmuth 3rd Season and as you can see my squad is just average with many loan player. But still I won Serie A again and C1 Cup ! The Final game in C1 tense but my DM score a screamer for the winning goal xD. It also won goal of the season ! Highly recommend salcedo. You can loan him pretty easy. Pappetti and Cistana is also good It's been a long time since I enjoyed the game like this Result in league could have been better but for few last game I rotate a lots to keep the player fresh and give youth chances Expand
babemocni1988 said: Man I am not here to critic something i am just trying to give a feedbach of my experience,as i sad in the first part of season i have done wonders with my team and i am just woried that tactic becomes easy to read for AI,nothing else,and i am very happy that autor made a tweak,there must be reason why,so keep calm and relax! Expand
I just tried to help you because my experience tells me when you aren't happy with the results then your tactic isn't always the reason, usually, there are many other things that you should be looking at... but feel free to ignore my advice
babemocni1988 said: I am playing this game for a long time so i know when tactic stop working!I am speaking about 10 games played...almoust no higlights... Expand
or it might be your teams isn't good enough to meet your expectation and even the best tactic can't help
They aren't the same. There's enough difference between them. I think your tactic's worth testing.
https://fm-arena.com/tactic/961-valhalla/
Holy moly, his ransfer value is 101M
As @ZaZ said 6.7/6.8 rating is a normal rating for DM position.
In general, very often the way the game gives ratings looks unfair for some positions and SI always try improves it. There have been many patches where SI adjusted the rating algorithm but as you can see it's still far from perfect and some position get lower ratings than other positions no matter what.
It won me the Scudetto, EURO Cup and Italian Cup.
Looks like a very good tactic.
Ok, I got it. Thanks.
fabix99 said: Is it possible to delete a previous thread?
I wouldn't not do that because I doubt they'll be testing your tactics if they see you delete them after it gets tested.
Is this an update of this tactic ? - https://fm-arena.com/tactic/777-moyibi/
can you send your squad? You use v3.0?
Yes, I used Phoenix 3.0 tactic and sometimes the "Very Attacking" version when it was appropriate.
Here's my result with Karabükspor.
The team was predicted to finish the 20th place and also had -3 points deduction at the begging of the season.
I finished the 2nd place and I find it's a great result.
The media prediction
If you want to know my experience then whatever tactic I test I get better results in the lower leagues than in the top leagues and I find it's quite logical because it's obvious that in the lower leagues the AI managers are less "smarter" than the AI managers in the top leagues. Yes, the players are also are less "smarter" in the lower leagues but they are less smarter not only for you but for the AI managers too so you are on par.
I'd say if you find a tactic that allows you winning the title in EPL or La Lige with a mid table team then you'll be killing everyone with this tactic in the lower league.
Phoenix V3.0 is 4.374% higher than Viola V1
All these are above your 3.5% threshold.
For me that proves that you can't test tactics by just plugging them and pushing "On Holiday" button. I understand why people tend to test tactics this way because it the simplest way to test, it doesn't require any skill or any efforts but it also gives an inaccurate result even after 1600 matches because the impact of random factors is very significant in this case, any injuries of the key players in your team or any injuries of the key players in the opposition team have a great impact on the result and they can turn everything apart.
Also, the assistant manager is responsible for managing the morale, picking the starting eleven for the tactic but it's been proven many times that even the best assistant manager is very poor at piking the team for many different tactics and he isn't capable managing any morale issue so it's like play roulette.
Maxi Gomez 55 goals in 43 games!
Nice one! Wow, Daniel Wass has got 27 assistance
3rd Season and as you can see my squad is just average with many loan player.
But still I won Serie A again and C1 Cup !
The Final game in C1 tense but my DM score a screamer for the winning goal xD. It also won goal of the season !
Highly recommend salcedo. You can loan him pretty easy. Pappetti and Cistana is also good
It's been a long time since I enjoyed the game like this
Result in league could have been better but for few last game I rotate a lots to keep the player fresh and give youth chances
Hi,
How much did you spend on the transfers?
I just tried to help you because my experience tells me when you aren't happy with the results then your tactic isn't always the reason, usually, there are many other things that you should be looking at... but feel free to ignore my advice
or it might be your teams isn't good enough to meet your expectation and even the best tactic can't help
Can you post screenshots of the tactic and show the roles and duties?
Thanks.