@Zippo What do you think, the change of formation will affect the results of the test? Or should we take for any formation that a short passing is better?
@Delicious Hi, why do you think the "433 RE-Swanton Bomb IV" scored 3 goals less than the "433 Swanton Bomb Special IV"? What is their difference? Did playing through the flank affect?
@Hirdious Thank very much for the test, it seems in this fm, as far as possible in this patch, this 4-3-3 is not able to show the best results in tests
ZaZ said: I seriously can't identify why it's not working at least in the level of 4.2. It gets better results with IF wide instead of neutral or narrow. Is the Roll It Out making such a difference? Expand
Perhaps the standard pass was affected instead of the short pass.
opq said: It won't give much difference. Double CM just sucks at this ME. For instance you can even check the table of 4231 with double CMs instead of double DM, and how low score they got. And seems there's really not much difference between IW and IF. I change between them from save to save. They still score and assist a lot Same goes to WB/CWB and I use them both. Expand
But I still advise you to create such a tactic for the test mix, 2CM-at and DM-def should work. And maybe we'll get a better version of 4-3-3, just try plz)
ZaZ said: I am intentionally trying to avoid the 424 shape that is getting the best results, since so many tactics popped up in that shape already. Expand
Do you think that PI's and TI's from Water 2.0 is the best combination at the moment?
ZaZ said: I left the most promising things to test again after the patch. It might change a lot, so no need to rush before that. I have just a list of what is good, what is bad and what needs more testing. Expand
Why are you waiting for the engine patch so much? I saw somewhere that SI said they will update the engine only in the Christmas patch)
There are no good results with this 4-3-3 on the fm arena yet...
Perhaps the standard pass was affected instead of the short pass.
And why do you always refuse counter-press?
For instance you can even check the table of 4231 with double CMs instead of double DM, and how low score they got.
And seems there's really not much difference between IW and IF. I change between them from save to save. They still score and assist a lot
Same goes to WB/CWB and I use them both.
But I still advise you to create such a tactic for the test mix, 2CM-at and DM-def should work. And maybe we'll get a better version of 4-3-3, just try plz)
And mb try standart passing...
What is the best way to keep the score or play against the strongest favorites in this fm?
will wind 4.0?
But I don't understand why light version has a higher def line and counter-press? Is it the best defense, but less good in attack?
There are hidden stuff that we didnt realized yet
But you also removed play out of defense, this can also affect, you shouldn’t have removed it)
And the question, why do you refuse counter-pressing? Did you do better in tests?
Do you think that PI's and TI's from Water 2.0 is the best combination at the moment?
Any thoughts on how to improve the result of tactics on the new ME?
Why are you waiting for the engine patch so much? I saw somewhere that SI said they will update the engine only in the Christmas patch)