ZaZ said: Yes. I will try to get something different from the top tactics, because I don't think it helps much to test what has already been done. Expand

Great idea, can we see a fire 2.0 update today or tomorrow?

ZaZ said: I give up on one DM for this tactic, I just can't make it work in this patch. I am going to start testing it with two DMs instead. Expand

Two DMs and two AF?

@ZaZ you promised to release an update to your tactics very soon, how are you? Can't wait anymore)

As I understand it, this test shows that if one player condition dropped to 70%, then his performance decreased by about 2.9%, not so bad, right?

Guys, how to understand this test?

Would the performance difference be 15% worse for a player ranked in position 17 than a player ranked 20? Or 1.36% for one player and 15% if everyone has 17 instead of 20?

ZaZ said: Since so many good tactics are popping up, I'm not in such a hurry, so I'm taking my time to identify what works and what doesn't. Expand

The current tactic may be updated to version 2.0 to test the results, plz?

ZaZ said: I finally identified what was causing my tactics to perform badly. Now I finally started moving forward again. Going to take a few days to post a new tactic, but results are promising. Expand

Tell us, please, what exactly gave you a progress in results?

@ZaZ please share your current best tactics, while fm-arena is not testing

@ZaZ  how important is it for the player to have the same traits as the role? Will it greatly affect the win in the match?

@ZaZ how about making this post with the green tactic the same as the blue one?

I mean to make a full description of the tactics, different versions to hold and make your own player filter, because here it seems the players should perform slightly different functions.

Also, how much work can you do to improve this tactic to catch up with blue and score 65 on the test scoreboard?

I think the community would really appreciate it, because ZaZ - Green 5.0 (not SS) tactics are more suitable for real football and in many clubs players are more suitable for green than for blue, and in general for a long time in FM there were no equally excellent tactics with different arrangements and roles.

Respect for the work from the FM community)

Interesting, how you guess the influence of such non-obvious attributes, because in fm 21 there weren't even tests on it.

ZaZ said: You can sort the table by fewest goals conceded and pick the one you like. Fanecas and Snow Halation have good score and good defense. You can also use Blue 1.0 if you want. Expand

Zaz, can update Blue tactic, because now this tactic is the worst of yours, but I think it has potential for 6.0+, and it is more realistic in games, your thoughts?

@ZaZ  How do you think this tactic is better than fanecas? Here are the differences between snow halation v3 tactics and Fanecas

1) IWB-At
2) DW-Su
3) One Pf, one AF
4) Or Positive mentality?

ZaZ said: I think tactics are being held back by horrible defenses. We have the same attack power as last year, but defense is way leakier. Expand

Do you have any idea how to overcome 6 rating right now?

Can i change W-Su to IW-Su without losing the quality of the tactics?

ZaZ said: I am looking for a breakthrough, since I don't think change in roles or positions will increase score much further. I believe I have found some hints, but need to keep testing so I don't post some misleading thing. Expand

Zaz, do you have something interesting new? Looking forward to updating your tactics

What kind of feet should players have? All left players - left foot, all right players - right foot?

ZaZ said: For my tactic, yes, but that could change in further tests.




I wouldn't say 40-50 points a season with Norwich is weak, but I am trying my best to improve these results. However, I don't think lower intensity will do any good, I would rather change the mentality or change a couple of roles. Expand

Is IW-At still your best role? And what kind of working leg should IW-At have?

Or what other role can you use without dropping the result on the flank?

ZaZ said: I did a couple more of experiments and Red 0.4b seems better. In four runs, results for Manchester City were:
1. 94 pts, 89 gd
2. 101 pts, 90 gd
3. 99 pts, 103 gd
4. 100 pts, 90 gd
5. Running while I sleep.



It seems very stable and it got good results even in seasons with heavy injuries. Unless someone finds different results, I'll use 0.4b as base for Red 0.5, for my next planned tests. Expand

Norwich seems weak in your tests, don't you think weaker teams should use a lower intensity?

@ZaZ Should we expect your new tactics with changes in the coming days? Did you hide your findings in the first post because they probably don't work anymore?