Please see attached screenshots for the 424 i have just uploaded. Had a terrific season with atalanta winning the league and a respectable 4th place with Real Betis along with a Copa del ray win also. Won basically everything with united but i cant seem to find the screenshots as this was tested a week ago but it was a massive success haha. I will run it again and post there successes
This is a very attacking tactic so i am not saying it will work with every team but again as all these tests are done on holiday mode with all external factors in play, it is basically just showing the worst case scenario the tactic will do because they will all 100% run better in a played save file instead of on holiday
drhay53 said: Yeah I saw that test. Part of the blocker is just that I'm heavily invested in my save with a mature team that's setup for 4231/433 DM Wide, and I have almost nobody in the club who can play MR/ML at all.
I have considered using the editor to sort of rearrange my senior squad's positions a little just to clear that blocker. I would give them competent or accomplished in the equivalent position as they're playing in my current tactics, and drop their current position ratings as well to avoid messing up their CA, then train them up from there. Just to clear the initial hurdle that's blocking me from dropping the lead line of my attack down that one stratum (ST to AMC and AM(RL) to M(RL)) Expand
I'm a big fan of AM(RL) positions too
Thank God there're many good tactics that uses these positions to choose from - AM(RL) tactics
CBP87 said: Ok so if I have extremely urgent pressing then the PI pressing mirrors that? Why would the pressing PI say standard when the pressing TI is standard but says less urgent when the pressing TI is extremely urgent?
I mean why would the PI preset show as less the higher the TI pressing intensity is? is that a bug? Expand
As I said that has been brought up many times on the official SI forum and even some of the devs agreed that the way TIs and PIs work is quite confusing, plus there are some visual bugs so I'd say this area is a complete mess and I wouldn't rely on what it shows you and the only way to know for sure is somewhow test it yourself.
CBP87 said: Also I found that if I put the pressing intensity down to standard then the PI preset of the winger goes to standard, I can increase this to close down more and if I put the TI back to extremely urgent the PI remains if I click on the role but when I click edit instructions it shows less urgent. Not sure whether this is a bug Expand
It's an known issue that some PIs and TIs visually bugged in FM21 so if you notice something weird then probably, it's a visual bug.
Machismo said: Hi all. I bought the FM in-game editor for FM21 when I bought FM21. However I see you guys often mention the FM Scout Editor. Do they the same job or are there additional benefits in adding FMSE? Expand
I'd say FM Scout Editor is a quite scouting oriented editor. It can't do some editing things that the official FM in-game editor or FMRTE - https://www.fmrte.com/ can do.
Btw, they all have unique and interesting features.
klokan said: one more question. is it better to play strikers in SS position or AMC's? for example, is it better to play Dembele or Vlasic in SS position? i'm struggling to make things work for vlasic and that type of players.. Expand
you should look at the attributes and the ability to on AMC position because it's only what matters
the ability to play on AMC position can be easily improved, most of time
Egraam said: Sorry, I have uploaded a wrong file (this was an older file from a different folder and I've mixed them up), striker should be on the left, this was the one I tested, should be fixed now. Expand
I wanted to request something like that long time ago and I find adding an info card about tested tactics above the opening post is a very good idea and I like it very much.
DeviAngel said: I will try this because its narrow and I have a soft spot for CM'S and I'm not a big fan of wingers (dunno why don't judge me :lol Expand
infxamus said: His passing using Direct mine uses standard, ticked down by 1 For pass distribution I have roll it out Instead of 3 SS its 2 SS on the outside and a AM in the inside/middle His tactic has 'Mark Tighter' on all outfield players, mine don't I use Sweeper Keeper (Support), his keeper is Sweeper Keeper (Defend) I'm using the ZaZ 3.0 set pieces Expand
babemocni1988 said: Factor of the lucky is big for sure but the problem was not there... Expand
You don't need any luck only if you are Barcelona and you play vs an amateur club but even in that case there's still like 0.0000001% probability of losing.
If your team aren't much better than your opponents then even with the most effective tactic there's still a huge room for the luck to kick in.
I think 5.5 rating for a 4-4-1-1 tactic would be a good rating
I wonder what score your tactic will get
Please see attached screenshots for the 424 i have just uploaded. Had a terrific season with atalanta winning the league and a respectable 4th place with Real Betis along with a Copa del ray win also. Won basically everything with united but i cant seem to find the screenshots as this was tested a week ago but it was a massive success haha. I will run it again and post there successes
This is a very attacking tactic so i am not saying it will work with every team but again as all these tests are done on holiday mode with all external factors in play, it is basically just showing the worst case scenario the tactic will do because they will all 100% run better in a played save file instead of on holiday
Well done!
I'm looking forward to see it gets tested.
I'd go for the fastest one.
I have considered using the editor to sort of rearrange my senior squad's positions a little just to clear that blocker. I would give them competent or accomplished in the equivalent position as they're playing in my current tactics, and drop their current position ratings as well to avoid messing up their CA, then train them up from there. Just to clear the initial hurdle that's blocking me from dropping the lead line of my attack down that one stratum (ST to AMC and AM(RL) to M(RL))
I'm a big fan of AM(RL) positions too
Thank God there're many good tactics that uses these positions to choose from - AM(RL) tactics
I mean why would the PI preset show as less the higher the TI pressing intensity is? is that a bug?
As I said that has been brought up many times on the official SI forum and even some of the devs agreed that the way TIs and PIs work is quite confusing, plus there are some visual bugs so I'd say this area is a complete mess and I wouldn't rely on what it shows you and the only way to know for sure is somewhow test it yourself.
It's an known issue that some PIs and TIs visually bugged in FM21 so if you notice something weird then probably, it's a visual bug.
is it possible to get a test file before the test is started?
I want to test my own tactics.
Thanks for your feedback.
Thx.
Hi,
Look at this post - https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/4043/
I'd say FM Scout Editor is a quite scouting oriented editor. It can't do some editing things that the official FM in-game editor or FMRTE - https://www.fmrte.com/ can do.
Btw, they all have unique and interesting features.
you should look at the attributes and the ability to on AMC position because it's only what matters
the ability to play on AMC position can be easily improved, most of time
Ok, thank you.
Hi,
The tactic you upload has the striker at the center but the screenshot shows the striker at the left.
Which one is correct? Have you tested with the striker at the center?
I wanted to request something like that long time ago and I find adding an info card about tested tactics above the opening post is a very good idea and I like it very much.
Thank you for your work!
if you like the formation then you'd better go for this Dimartino's tactic, it uses the same formation but got a higher rating - https://fm-arena.com/tactic/793-waterfall-tweak-by-dimartino/
For pass distribution I have roll it out
Instead of 3 SS its 2 SS on the outside and a AM in the inside/middle
His tactic has 'Mark Tighter' on all outfield players, mine don't
I use Sweeper Keeper (Support), his keeper is Sweeper Keeper (Defend)
I'm using the ZaZ 3.0 set pieces
Thanks
It looks like VOID 2.0 - https://fm-arena.com/tactic/959-void-ver-2-0/
What's the difference?
Thank you for your efforts.
You don't need any luck only if you are Barcelona and you play vs an amateur club but even in that case there's still like 0.0000001% probability of losing.
If your team aren't much better than your opponents then even with the most effective tactic there's still a huge room for the luck to kick in.
Some time ago in attempt to measure the RNG in EPL I made few tests - https://fm-arena.com/thread/442-my-attempt-to-measure-the-game-rng-random-number-generator/
If you like to play with AMR and AML instead of MR and ML then you can try Inquisitor - https://fm-arena.com/tactic/957-inquisitor-v-1/