Could you write down all the changes you made? Expand
It's a lot but I will do, just give me some time I just finished with testing after experimenting for a few days now. Let me enjoy the tactic right now because it;s ridiculously enjoyable
Stan Seymour said: Thank you for the credit, mate. You know, our thinking was similar even before I did 3-1-6. By the way, I have a surprise for you, just wait until tomorrow, i guess i will put a new perspective on the clear cut opportunities thing. I can't play the game much because of my job, but i have something really weird things in my mind and I'm about to finish it. Expand
No problem you did a wicked job in creating the tactic. I just felt myself biting my nails in some games where the oppo where getting a good amount of chances and shots on goal and we ended up needing to outscore them which is a credit to the tactic's attacking potency, but the backline where getting pierced to pieces sometimes
I just hope this has plugged in the gaps so we get the best out of your tactic. Anyway I look forward to seeing your changes
This is obviously a tweak of stan seymour 3-1-6-0, Beautiful xG so I take little credit for the work but felt there was some improvements needed in defence and attack which I think should improve the overall rating on the tactic which I look forward to seeing tested. It may work out or may not but it definitely feels more robust in defence when playing
I've made many changes to the attack so both attacking midfielders are exploiting the space to get on to driect through balls driven by the midfielder and wingers who now create centrally. In my view AM is more overpowered than the second striker in my opinion
Changed the width to stretch the opposition. I changed one midfielder to roaming playmaker to create overloads in certain areas of the pitch to help the wingers get further forward to provide more crosses in for the AM's
I ran a quick test with Liverpool and all the goals were mostly and evenly scored between the two AM's that is mane and salah. Salah got 58 and mane scored 57 goals
In my own save I'm getting greater numbers with the two AM's and so many exploitative clear cut chances where the opposition can't do shit about the relentless attacks lol while the opposition are hardly getting a sniff at goal. In the original I found there were to many clear cut opportunities the opposition got, but I think this tweak has put an end to that and now it's just complete obliteration where the opposition have no say in the matter.
I finished tweaking this formation to it's peak potential which I think has improved both the potency of the defence and attack. Tested with pool and salah and mane scored 115 goals between them. Gonna post seperate thread so it can get reviewed but will give you all the credit Stan Seymour
alex said: @Metal this modifications were used in the United screenshots you put in the thread? (Where you were unbeaten) Expand
No they were the original tactic where I went unbeaten.
In fact ignore/scrap those modifications they're not working out as well as I thought they were i.e inconsistent and finding losing more games with the mods.
I'm still trying to find a way to tweak it to maximise this tactic's potential because I still think the defense can be improved
Tested this out myself and achieved better results than my own tactic which got a higher rating which shows rating on here can be deceiving because on the pitch this tactic is so dominating moreso than any other tactic
I won everything with ease and went entire season unbeaten in all comps and also got 137 goals in the league which shows this consistently gets big results across the board.
Well done Stan Seymour and well done to egraam for providing us with the great waves base which I believe is much better than zaz and pheonix
Milakus said: I don't think "Dribble Less" TI is a good idea for FM21 because FM21 is about dribbling... Expand
Trust me you lose the ball less and the players still dribble especially the wingers but I find they get into my dangerous positions with dribbling less on
I'm really excited with this new version I'm making its even better than the original, the attack is now absolutely lethal I'm loving it. This is easily my best tactic I created it's crazy
I made a lot of improvements, a lot of changes to make the AMs even more deadly while keeping the defence tight
6.5 not bad at all, but was expecting to get higher. Will continue to tweak for the second season see if I can improve the attack to get up to 3,100+ gf instead of the 2,748
In fm22 they should have real training drills to test out tactics in pre season not just friendlies
CBP87 said: Definitely trying and looking forward to using this, not keen on the team you used for testing though Expand
Give it a go, I'm still finding ways of tweaking it so it's more lethal. My main objective was to solidify the defence. I now want the numbers up in attack
I was messing around with Reaper 6,4 and the original and I enjoyed the play but in all of them they conceded in the away games and big games, it was just too leaky. I thought it needed some defensive stability while retaining the potency among the 3 AMs which are overpowered this year as they overwhelm the defence as seen through suttsko no nonsense where the am can score up to 100 goals if they stragety to play through the middle is added which is what is included in this tactic
Initially I hated the idea of this shape but when it plays it's a joy to see your three AM's linking up and threading easy through ball with acres of space to play on.
I played with United and was undefeated in the league until dead rubber games and started playing with youth who got me my first loss towards the end of the season.
Lost out on quadruple with PSG beating me in CL final after Bruno Fernandes got sent off for a two footed lunge and then the ref awarded them with a last minute penalty to equalise to go into extra time where they scored the winning goal.
Had it not been for those two games I'd have gone the entire season unbeaten in ALL competitions using this synergy tweak that I made.
It's extremely defensively solid only conceding 20 goals in the prem. The focus is to get the ball pumped to the three AMs and the wingers help in attack and defence.
super korean said: Personally, it seems that it would not be bad to try v4 or the original version if the team has become a strong team to a certain extent. Expand
I'll give reaper 4 a test, really like how your tactics operate. Keep up the good work
I just played 2 games with this tactic and, all I can say is WOW
Not a fan of the shape of the formation with it being strikerlesss but in one game my striker got 6 goals playing as an AM while winning 8-0 away from home
Could you write down all the changes you made?
It's a lot but I will do, just give me some time I just finished with testing after experimenting for a few days now. Let me enjoy the tactic right now because it;s ridiculously enjoyable
Stan Seymour said: Thank you for the credit, mate. You know, our thinking was similar even before I did 3-1-6. By the way, I have a surprise for you, just wait until tomorrow, i guess i will put a new perspective on the clear cut opportunities thing. I can't play the game much because of my job, but i have something really weird things in my mind and I'm about to finish it.
No problem you did a wicked job in creating the tactic. I just felt myself biting my nails in some games where the oppo where getting a good amount of chances and shots on goal and we ended up needing to outscore them which is a credit to the tactic's attacking potency, but the backline where getting pierced to pieces sometimes
I just hope this has plugged in the gaps so we get the best out of your tactic. Anyway I look forward to seeing your changes
I've made many changes to the attack so both attacking midfielders are exploiting the space to get on to driect through balls driven by the midfielder and wingers who now create centrally. In my view AM is more overpowered than the second striker in my opinion
Changed the width to stretch the opposition. I changed one midfielder to roaming playmaker to create overloads in certain areas of the pitch to help the wingers get further forward to provide more crosses in for the AM's
I ran a quick test with Liverpool and all the goals were mostly and evenly scored between the two AM's that is mane and salah. Salah got 58 and mane scored 57 goals
In my own save I'm getting greater numbers with the two AM's and so many exploitative clear cut chances where the opposition can't do shit about the relentless attacks lol while the opposition are hardly getting a sniff at goal. In the original I found there were to many clear cut opportunities the opposition got, but I think this tweak has put an end to that and now it's just complete obliteration where the opposition have no say in the matter.
No they were the original tactic where I went unbeaten.
In fact ignore/scrap those modifications they're not working out as well as I thought they were i.e inconsistent and finding losing more games with the mods.
I'm still trying to find a way to tweak it to maximise this tactic's potential because I still think the defense can be improved
I won everything with ease and went entire season unbeaten in all comps and also got 137 goals in the league which shows this consistently gets big results across the board.
Well done Stan Seymour and well done to egraam for providing us with the great waves base which I believe is much better than zaz and pheonix
Nice stuff
Congrats the tactic looks like a beast.
Should definitely get a higher rating but as lng as it works in practice that is the main thing.
Trust me you lose the ball less and the players still dribble especially the wingers but I find they get into my dangerous positions with dribbling less on
I made a lot of improvements, a lot of changes to make the AMs even more deadly while keeping the defence tight
Wow that's great mate thanks for testing.
Like I said still gonna tweak some more so I can get higher rating and be more devastating in attack.
Congrats on your tactic too you got a great score for striker formation. 6.7 I think it was that is nice
Are you gonna buy fm22 straight away? Are you hyped for it?
In fm22 they should have real training drills to test out tactics in pre season not just friendlies
Give it a go, I'm still finding ways of tweaking it so it's more lethal. My main objective was to solidify the defence. I now want the numbers up in attack
Ole out btw :}
Initially I hated the idea of this shape but when it plays it's a joy to see your three AM's linking up and threading easy through ball with acres of space to play on.
I played with United and was undefeated in the league until dead rubber games and started playing with youth who got me my first loss towards the end of the season.
Lost out on quadruple with PSG beating me in CL final after Bruno Fernandes got sent off for a two footed lunge and then the ref awarded them with a last minute penalty to equalise to go into extra time where they scored the winning goal.
Had it not been for those two games I'd have gone the entire season unbeaten in ALL competitions using this synergy tweak that I made.
It's extremely defensively solid only conceding 20 goals in the prem. The focus is to get the ball pumped to the three AMs and the wingers help in attack and defence.
I'm looking forward to seeing this tested
I'll give reaper 4 a test, really like how your tactics operate. Keep up the good work
You broke the game with this tactic. Take a bow son
My favourite strikerless this year
Not a fan of the shape of the formation with it being strikerlesss but in one game my striker got 6 goals playing as an AM while winning 8-0 away from home
The football was pretty good to watch too.
Cool but don't you know how many he got in all competitions?
Tempted to give this tactic a run