Zippo
KOniGun said: Hi All !

Please this tactic By Gillard

Classic 532, based on nuno 532 at wolves but more attacking

Thx


Hi,

Please, update the opening post and add a link to the source of the tactic and some result with the tactic.

Thank you.
FMPirate said: 4231 FROM MY CURRENT SAVE

COULD YOU TEST PLEASE?


Hi,

Please, update the opening post and add screenshots of the tactic and some results with it.

Thank you.
salzby said: @Zippo could you please also test healmuth APDM mod I think deserves a test.

Hi,

Changes CM-A to AP-A and DLP-S to DM-S have been tested already

CA-A and DLP-S setup got 6.9 rating - https://fm-arena.com/tactic/732-zaz-red/

AP-A and DM-S got 6.7 rating - https://fm-arena.com/tactic/745-zaz-red/


Regarding your tactic... the opening post looks messy, it's very hard to understand what tactic you tweaked and what changes you made, please, clean it a bit and I'll take a look once more.

Thanks.
ZaZ said: @Zippo, can you test height, please? Like 5cm difference in all positions?

We might test that at some point but honestly, I don't consider that as the main priority because "Jumping Reach" attribute has been tested already and it has more impact than height when it comes air challenging for the ball.
ZaZ said: Determination also affects attribute gain from training and other aspects, so I believe it's very important, as well as being free. I agree with Bravery not being so important, considering that tackling and marking didn't matter much either. However, Aggression might be relevant since it is another free attribute, which costs no point in CA.

In our testing the attributes can't change during the testing, they are frozen by FMRTE.

If you want to get a fast development rate then you should look for high Professional and Ambition attributes, they have more influence on the development rate than Determination attribute.

Determination comes on the stage when your team concedes a goal or starts losing, a high Determination attribute prevents the Morale from dropping.
ZaZ said: @Zippo , will Bravery, Determination and Aggression be tested? I don't think they will change much, but two of them are free stats.

I don't think there's much point in testing Aggression and Bravery attributes but Determination might be tested at some point.
rego8 said: Food for thought on the testing by dropping a certain stat on the test to find how important that stat is. It maybe just important for that tactic maybe you will get a different result on a tactic that's not so reliant on pace and acceleration?

All tactics with "Dribble Less" TI get about 2.0 - 3.0 rating in the testing so "Dribble Less" is a very poor approach to play in FM21, check the tactics bellow:

https://fm-arena.com/tactic/615-pep-guardiola-s-barcelona-masterpiece-4-3-3/

https://fm-arena.com/tactic/618-4-2-3-1-road-to-glory-fm21-tiki-taka-tactics/



Also, you can check the top tactics and you'll find that they all use "Dribble More" approach so, obviously, "Dribble More" approach is the most effective way to play in FM21.


I can add that we've tried decreasing Acceleration and Pace attributes for different tactics and the result was almost the same.
@cadoni stop acting like that and offend people, this is the last warning.
momu said: .

Hi,

Please, update the opening post and add screenshots of the tactic and some results with it.

Thank you.
ZaZ said: Are we testing for all attributes? That would be awesome.

We'll try to test as many attributes as possible, including such attributes as Morale, Condition and Consistency
ZaZ said: I am not surprised since most goals from this formation happen from through balls.

I find super fast wingers are capable winning matches on thier own, just constantly penetrating inside the opposition box :)

ZaZ said: I think it might not make much difference since this formation scores very little from crosses.

I don't think it's about better crossing I think it's about better penetration inside the box. It looks like wingers do that more easily than inverted wingers

DazzieK said: After taking over Arsenal and struggling at the end of the season changed to a 4231 currently defying odds and battling for the league and finally beating and competing with the big guns did suffer defeat in the cup but played a very weak team not tried with smaller club yet so not sure if it will be as good.

Hi,

Please, add screenshots of the tactic.

Thanks.
kingliv said: can u test this tactic?

Hi,

Please, give the tactic an appropriate name and add screenshots of the tactic and results with it.

Thank you.
Dimartino said: Tactic from user Raccoonradar, at FM Base.Not much information. He claims that he went unbeaten (probably the entire season?!) with Everton. I've tested for a few matches, and it seems really good. Can you guys test it?

Hi,

Please, can you add a link to the source of the tactic and some results with the tactic.

Thank you.
ZaZ said: @Zippo would allow one test for this lower intensity tactic, when I figure the best shape for it.

if there are enough changes to make any meaningful difference then why not? :)
ZaZ said: Tactic source is going to the wrong page. It should be either the first page of Blue, or the specific topic for Blue 2.0 (linked in the first page of Blue).

Fixed.
ta2199 said: All prob gonna go away if 2.0 gonna be tested @Zippo

I'll add Blue 2.0 in the queue :thup:
@super korean, hi.

Please, update the opening post and add screenshots of the tactic.

Thank you.
DazzieK said: Started with rangers won treble and also got to the Europa league final first season 78 games played 87% win rate hoping for a decent showing with other teams in stronger leagues

Hi,

Please, update the opening post and add some results with the tactic.

Thank you.