magicnut
Wow there , tactic has room for Improvement ! :shock: :D :devil: :vomit:
The tactical ideas are quite simular to Crackpistons  but don't seem to click quite as well :getlost:  :shock: :woot:
Skubek said: Hello patch 21.3 ?

Lad having read the patch notes I don't recall any ME changes on that patch
https://i.imgur.com/NtVhOdW.png
Hello this tactic was rated currently the highest on fmbase testing .
StephanHK made a few different tactics but it was THIS particular formation that topped their test.
https://beta.fm-base.co.uk/fm2021_12/tactic/stephenhk-tactics-fm21-521872-1999
I have checked on our list to make sure no duplicate tests already done , did not see any!
A masterpiece!
Cerberlisk
cadoni said: @magicnut As you have see, FMB has been updated their table and Camolas isn't 1st. It's ok trying to demotivate other test leagues, but you have to be ready that isn't final and more tactics will be tested. I am not involved in FMB test league, but please..

Lad perhaps I was a bit too harsh on the fmbase testing and I really didn't mean at all to "demotivate" them . I am a little critical of fmbase due to conflicts or confrontations with certain mods there (I am banned temporarily at the moment) for cutting to the Chase and also the past audacity shown certain mods going as far as coming HERE and trying to convince me and others of their  testing methods.. I'd like to put my beef with fmbase aside since its a nice resource after all , with a few bad apples mixed in but noone is perfect :) ..

With the above said , I want to reiterate that my skepticism in fmbase testing methods is based on my own personal experience playing a few "high rated tactics" there and seeing very quickly that they weren't of much use and that's a soft way of putting it (but again this is my opinion). But this was with the very first fmbase tests done on about...fm 19 maybe ish? Not sure exactly , but when they just came out...Perhaps their new methods aren't as flawed as they were and more relevant.

Also thanks very much FMBase for giving ApePyss a whopping high ranking of 4.5 stars :)
Wow that tactic Ass...So much for fmbase testing :D ... Ofcourse I knew better by the experience I had already..
Bogeyman said: Let's hope those 3 instructions will do magic and help this to get more than 4.7 rating :)
Well unfourtunately with the new tweaks the performances dropped even further to a whopping 4.2...
So much for beating crackpistons at it's whopping 4.8 !
At minimum 3 instructions different and there might very well be differences to individual instructions although formation and roles look simular.

Bogeyman said: Let's hope those 3 instructions will do magic and help this to get more than 4.7 rating :)
I hope it can climb above CrackPistons!
At minimum 3 instructions different and there might very well be differences to individual instructions although formation and roles look simular.
Bogeyman said: isn't it the same tactic?

https://fm-arena.com/tactic/596-fm21preachinbluesknap23221-451-p101cc/


Lad upon very close and detailed inspection I can confirm this is NOT the exact same tactic:
I observed the following differences :
HIGHER defensive line vs Normal
NO offside trap
And there might be further differences in setpieces as well
ALSO : Pass into Space
Bogeyman said: isn't it the same tactic?

https://fm-arena.com/tactic/596-fm21preachinbluesknap23221-451-p101cc/


Nope lad you should look carefully the point tally is different .. Its from that same series tho. I'll load it just in case but pretty sure it's not (the tactic you sent labeled 101pts)
Hello there lads I bestow this Knapp's masterpiece which has the highest point tally of all the knapp tactics tested a whopping 110pts. Surely this might be a big hit in our leaderboards..

Source : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hGvdjZyrowqiMrDh9_GjVxEOpQ1AsuUk-LvwdrAIJX4/edit#gid=0
cadoni said: Weak tactic.

Thanks for your criticism lad . I am contemplating making some tactics of a higher efficiency some time this or next month :D
Masterpiece? By the looks of the tactical testings i'd say its a assterpiece :)
Based on the preliminary results of tactics for this match engine I'm starting to have a clue what kind of positions and roles might be more efficient and I might crack up a new Masterpiece for fun..
Very poor , looks like the patch turned this to rubbish ..
Well looks like this wasn't a Masterpiece :vomit: :getlost: :goofy: ;)
Zippo said: Could you post a link to the source of the tactic?

Thanks.


Yes lad https://fm-base.co.uk/resources/bobot-4-2-4-beautiful-football.1188/