Gracolas said: This is amazing.. with your initial tests i thought that you were right and tactics barely matter, but now with this new test it all makes sense..
I guess that the community gives higher importance to tactics because maybe in Championship Manager times Diablo tactic sorted everything Expand
It's the same thing to "test" with "city" "pool" "psg" etc, but what i want to point out that in order to get this kind of scenario with lower teams you need to have better players as this test saying.
But how many time do we need in-game to do that? If you start with a 28pts tactics (maybe you will get even sacked) with a 50+ you might overachieve.
Or you can't really get better players if you are not top4 (UCL) to attract them.
I do agree that some attributes literally break the engine and some other are quite useless, but minimizing the impact of a good tactic is quite , since this happen when you are literally a monster compared to rest normal teams, i do believe only test teams were boosted,means is like you face a league with pool or city (maybe even more) or most likely PSG vs all normal teams.
But another personal thing is when i do reach that kind of level (Since the IA can't really evolve,nor they play/buy the right players or they don't let wonderkids play they will fall behind compared to you), the game literally get boring (too easy). So imho SI should work on that aspect of the game,to get things interesting.
I mean players like Thiaw/Sutalo/Parisi/Bellanova/Scott/Arda/Lucca/Leonardo (there are really alot). Are all wonderkids that doesn't cost alot but they will evolve in little monsters. Thuram boys are good as well, one is a god-tier volante the other is my favorite winger type.
For me there are aspects of the game that have their own "weight", imho all are important in order to overachieve.
-Training -Tactic -Players (the most harder to achieve)
But now you know how to scout good players (which attributes you have to looking for)
And yes the community still believe that tactics play a major role then isn't in reality, i've always said play whatever you do like to see on the pitch more then what is the "top" tactic.
But i am quite sure, someone will ask again :
Best tactic??!1 Best Top/Mid??!1 Best underdog??!1111
GloriousSealion said: I've just finished the first season with Lazio using your lovely tactic.
Lazio Roma, media prediction: 6th.
Serie A: winner (2 points diff, Inter lost their last game against Lecce lol). 28W 5D 5L Europa League: winner (against Inter) Coppa Italia: winner (against AC Milan)
Immobile banged 31 goals (19 in Serie A, 11 in Europa) Luis Alberto 31 assists, 13 goals SMS 17 goals, 6 assists Zaccagni 13 goals, 7 assists Buongiorno (center back), 14 goals Expand
If you call it Lazio Roma, the laziali will come after you :P.
Zippo said: We've been doing internal tests on the updated testing league and the current top tactic "4123 Pressure Cooker" dropped about 9 points vs AI "Elite" Managers, the score decreased from 66 to 57.
When I say AI "Elite" Managers I mean the most successful AI tactical settings that we've tested so far. Expand
A suggestion :
Can we add to the queque like the top 2-3 for each Hall of Fame tactic rank (just giving a suggestion), so we can understand more in depth how the things are working, imho is useless to just to spam again the "try-outs". Ofc it can happen once all of the Hall of fame are being tested.
Indeed it will take "time" but imho is the best way to avoid more "brute" force testing. And i would personally even give a different tune to the threshold,i mean before was like a coin-flip (960 games),if you were lucky you could get more test otherwise nop, and imho like that maybe we missed some good setup as well.
double Defenders on Cover
New 4231 Setup, playing around with AM's PI... Gonna test if it really is bette then SS,it was quite shocking :P
MHDL as is my favorite at the very moment.
I guess that the community gives higher importance to tactics because maybe in Championship Manager times Diablo tactic sorted everything
It's the same thing to "test" with "city" "pool" "psg" etc, but what i want to point out that in order to get this kind of scenario with lower teams you need to have better players as this test saying.
But how many time do we need in-game to do that? If you start with a 28pts tactics (maybe you will get even sacked) with a 50+ you might overachieve.
Or you can't really get better players if you are not top4 (UCL) to attract them.
I do agree that some attributes literally break the engine and some other are quite useless, but minimizing the impact of a good tactic is quite
But another personal thing is when i do reach that kind of level (Since the IA can't really evolve,nor they play/buy the right players or they don't let wonderkids play they will fall behind compared to you), the game literally get boring (too easy).
So imho SI should work on that aspect of the game,to get things interesting.
I mean players like Thiaw/Sutalo/Parisi/Bellanova/Scott/Arda/Lucca/Leonardo (there are really alot).
Are all wonderkids that doesn't cost alot but they will evolve in little monsters.
Thuram boys are good as well, one is a god-tier volante the other is my favorite winger type.
For me there are aspects of the game that have their own "weight", imho all are important in order to overachieve.
-Training
-Tactic
-Players (the most harder to achieve)
But now you know how to scout good players (which attributes you have to looking for)
And yes the community still believe that tactics play a major role then isn't in reality, i've always said play whatever you do like to see on the pitch more then what is the "top" tactic.
But i am quite sure, someone will ask again :
Best tactic??!1
Best Top/Mid??!1
Best underdog??!1111
Play POSSESSION!
Lazio Roma, media prediction: 6th.
Serie A: winner (2 points diff, Inter lost their last game against Lecce lol). 28W 5D 5L
Europa League: winner (against Inter)
Coppa Italia: winner (against AC Milan)
Immobile banged 31 goals (19 in Serie A, 11 in Europa)
Luis Alberto 31 assists, 13 goals
SMS 17 goals, 6 assists
Zaccagni 13 goals, 7 assists
Buongiorno (center back), 14 goals
If you call it Lazio Roma, the laziali will come after you :P.
Call it just Lazio
When I say AI "Elite" Managers I mean the most successful AI tactical settings that we've tested so far.
A suggestion :
Can we add to the queque like the top 2-3 for each Hall of Fame tactic rank (just giving a suggestion), so we can understand more in depth how the things are working, imho is useless to just to spam again the "try-outs". Ofc it can happen once all of the Hall of fame are being tested.
Indeed it will take "time" but imho is the best way to avoid more "brute" force testing. And i would personally even give a different tune to the threshold,i mean before was like a coin-flip (960 games),if you were lucky you could get more test otherwise nop, and imho like that maybe we missed some good setup as well.
Totaly crazy. GOOD JOB!!
IWB on attack and HB as DM zone
DM(support) as DM zone and IWB on Attack
IWB on attack and Anchor as DM role
IWB on Attack and RPM as DM role
Trying with IWB on Attack
DM(D) = on DM zone
BWM(support) on dm zone
BWM(D) on DM zone
Anchor as DM zone
Lower d line
DM role DM(support)
DM Role = BWM (Support)
DM role BWM(D)
DM role Anchor