I might be pretty new on the forum but i've followed those forums since ages, about this matter "plagiarism" is kinda hard to even try to handle it, i can understand the ego "oh guys i've runned test for 400 hours and a random guy came made some "tweaks" and now that tactic works stellar". That's the risk by sharing something, I mean i saw on Knap's SI page there are tactic that even remind "your" blue 4.0 now we wanna call him a plagiarist? The guy to me create and test tactics like a tornado. I am pretty sure he went to a similar shape ages ago. I am just pointing out to give you an example, for me what makes a tactic from decent to good or op are the Set pieces, roles and rules are significant but not that the same impact on it(ofc from my point of view). I mean now you are using the less constrast(? no clue if that's the right word in english) rules etc, if toworrow those instruction become on "meta" what are you gonna do? check every tactic that used your intuition and ask for credits? It would be nice if people were correct and understanding your hard work but that's not gonna happen everytime. What i am trying to say in few words that if you wanna work and release your play style be aware that people might follow it and after a process it's gonna be just a common thing aka (meta). But those things happens even in real life,i mean how many scouts tried to emulate the pep's soccer? Or Klopp's? Here we can just understand what you did by checking roles/rules/SP'S. To me wasn't even correct to mention the guy that you had a "doubt" that he copied w/e you wanna call it because it's basically saying now "if you use something with 2 strikers 2 IWB and one SS is zaz's business". But that kind of behavior gonna just distance people from even share tactics at one point. I didn't check it personally but if set pieces are the same the roles are the same and he basically just "dropped" the wings is because your roles and rules become the Meta. Live with it or find another solution to protect your project i mean they created "copyrights for some reason i believe lads".
I didn't mean to offend none i just wanted to express my opinion on the matter.
Hello guys, here i am again to share a tactic with you, waiting for fm23 made me doing some labor,that time wasn't easy to find out how to make it work, i took the idea from Mr Green with his 271, originally his tactic was just made to make haaland score i guess or for elite team, so i decided to make it somewat solid and perfoming better, i wanted to reach more goal pontential the best was Haaland with 132 goals he missed 3 games so i guess he could reach 135 at least but w/e...
So here are some numbers and some screen shots, i could something from everything i like, but i've said the DM on Defense was something i saw on 2litfurious(i guess?) and it worked wonder for the sustanibility i was looking for.. Funny fact that you can manage those wing back as you like they work well with IWB/CWB/WB didnt really try the FB.
Now i am going to play this for last career before FM23 i guess i am going to work on those shapes, didn't like how wings works since fm20 that's why i prefer narrows tactics.
a tip if you have slow def, i suggest you to make the defensive line on standard somewhere on those screen there is a screen that managed to go from 10th to 3rd just managing the line.
If someone wanna play it, i would suggest to play positive and HulkTookYourhome, positive vs even matched or under away.
Have fun!
P.S. Something happened while posting and like half and i removed half of the screens because i though was space error... If someone want i will upload them!
@Nikko Terzino is more stable @F9jobless and foundajob are more offensive. But i dont know if you read the edit, you can make it w/e you like, i've tested even double Mezzala w/o losing that much on defense. Those are more test, to me they like all pretty similar but numbers DR(GD) are different.
Hello guys, first time for me here,since usually i just play few months(per year). This time i did try to make something different affter a guy Babemocni shared Attack_Monster tactic. I didnt like some parts of the tactic like it was really "meta" dependent not mandatory but more taller guy you had the better. So i did start to collect data around the web from the best tactics and their roles/duties etcetc. And i did assemble those tactics (in reality are more then 20 some of them went to the bin). But those were the best in terms of results. I will upload another one but is different shape but it did good as well. About the originality of the "tactic" i dont know how it works(i mean its not just a tweak of a role,its me tried every role everything about every good tactic with results,option etc),i dont even know who/what to mention, to be honest more then a tactic it is an assemble of what i did found good around the datas. Its just in the name of science.
First is TerzinoJob aka in english Fullback,i found this role only on some other tactic and i don't understand why. To me is pretty good to compete with the IWB and WB.
My problem is about testing,i've found around the web some test run and now i am using TT's one that seem be more accurate that what i needed.
Btw if someone is interested to run test or play it and have some ideas to how implement it. Feel free to share it.
My biggest problem are SP's but that guy babemocni did it self and i can say that there is no better sp's at least for this shape and i tried alot to implement. About Sp's i am more then opened to test em!
-Edit: I forgot to say that you can play it even on positive/offensive/Very Attacking you can understand from the base, you can tick and remove roles that you dont find good or adatable for your team. Imagine there is calculator or w/e want to call it,the funny thing i found out about those test is that some options will just kill your tactics in terms on points. It's like the lesser the better.
And all of those are on vacation i didnt play them or gave a training. And i didnt even preselected a formation so it was all IA doing. (because in italian that option is missleading...)
That's the risk by sharing something, I mean i saw on Knap's SI page there are tactic that even remind "your" blue 4.0 now we wanna call him a plagiarist? The guy to me create and test tactics like a tornado. I am pretty sure he went to a similar shape ages ago.
I am just pointing out to give you an example, for me what makes a tactic from decent to good or op are the Set pieces, roles and rules are significant but not that the same impact on it(ofc from my point of view).
I mean now you are using the less constrast(? no clue if that's the right word in english) rules etc, if toworrow those instruction become on "meta" what are you gonna do? check every tactic that used your intuition and ask for credits? It would be nice if people were correct and understanding your hard work but that's not gonna happen everytime.
What i am trying to say in few words that if you wanna work and release your play style be aware that people might follow it and after a process it's gonna be just a common thing aka (meta). But those things happens even in real life,i mean how many scouts tried to emulate the pep's soccer? Or Klopp's? Here we can just understand what you did by checking roles/rules/SP'S.
To me wasn't even correct to mention the guy that you had a "doubt" that he copied w/e you wanna call it because it's basically saying now "if you use something with 2 strikers 2 IWB and one SS is zaz's business". But that kind of behavior gonna just distance people from even share tactics at one point. I didn't check it personally but if set pieces are the same the roles are the same and he basically just "dropped" the wings is because your roles and rules become the Meta. Live with it or find another solution to protect your project i mean they created "copyrights for some reason i believe lads".
I didn't mean to offend none i just wanted to express my opinion on the matter.
They are pretty similar to be honest, but with found a job you will get like 2% more juice from your it. Depends even how good is your f9
So here are some numbers and some screen shots, i could something from everything i like, but i've said the DM on Defense was something i saw on 2litfurious(i guess?) and it worked wonder for the sustanibility i was looking for.. Funny fact that you can manage those wing back as you like they work well with IWB/CWB/WB didnt really try the FB.
Now i am going to play this for last career before FM23 i guess i am going to work on those shapes, didn't like how wings works since fm20 that's why i prefer narrows tactics.
a tip if you have slow def, i suggest you to make the defensive line on standard somewhere on those screen there is a screen that managed to go from 10th to 3rd just managing the line.
If someone wanna play it, i would suggest to play positive and HulkTookYourhome, positive vs even matched or under away.
Have fun!
P.S. Something happened while posting and like half and i removed half of the screens because i though was space error... If someone want i will upload them!
I didnt like some parts of the tactic like it was really "meta" dependent not mandatory but more taller guy you had the better. So i did start to collect data around the web from the best tactics and their roles/duties etcetc. And i did assemble those tactics (in reality are more then 20 some of them went to the bin). But those were the best in terms of results.
I will upload another one but is different shape but it did good as well.
About the originality of the "tactic" i dont know how it works(i mean its not just a tweak of a role,its me tried every role everything about every good tactic with results,option etc),i dont even know who/what to mention, to be honest more then a tactic it is an assemble of what i did found good around the datas. Its just in the name of science.
First is TerzinoJob aka in english Fullback,i found this role only on some other tactic and i don't understand why. To me is pretty good to compete with the IWB and WB.
My problem is about testing,i've found around the web some test run and now i am using TT's one that seem be more accurate that what i needed.
Btw if someone is interested to run test or play it and have some ideas to how implement it. Feel free to share it.
My biggest problem are SP's but that guy babemocni did it self and i can say that there is no better sp's at least for this shape and i tried alot to implement. About Sp's i am more then opened to test em!
-Edit: I forgot to say that you can play it even on positive/offensive/Very Attacking you can understand from the base, you can tick and remove roles that you dont find good or adatable for your team. Imagine there is calculator or w/e want to call it,the funny thing i found out about those test is that some options will just kill your tactics in terms on points. It's like the lesser the better.
And all of those are on vacation i didnt play them or gave a training. And i didnt even preselected a formation so it was all IA doing. (because in italian that option is missleading...)
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