Spoiler Unlucky those runs were a bit fm'ed, alot of injuries etc but that's it!
4141 Khabib Spoiler
Changelog:
Tweaked a bit and checked some more roles:
4141 FYD PBM WD P Spoiler
Changelog:
More tweak about the metarulesless development and those DLP,that sometimes make you dream and the other time the worst nightmare.
Tested with Bournemouth: 3rd place 76 points
4141 Khabib v5 Spoiler
Changelog:
So,i basically wanted to find a foundation to were to start to apply tweaks,the tactic will works better on next (at least i do hope it), i won't transition yet to 4-2-4 or the main topic 4-4-2, i rather go on 343 or stuff like that and i feel now that i have a bit of data,i can make something better,i've already got the set pieces version,but i want to make more test to present a better version that this. Basically, i've putted those backs on support because it needed a bit of supportive points,even if we do like everything on attack,sometimes we have to accept the fact that we can't... maybe gonna present few more tactics to get tested but with more datasolidity this time.
4141 Khabib 13-0 Spoiler
Changelog:
-Set pieces reworked from Reliable Set Pieces -WB into IWB (this is an attempt to follow the meta) -IW to IF but on (SU) -IWB on (SU)
BadA said: Sure. What do you like? What don't you like? What still needs improving? Can you tell that the specific changes outlined in the patch notes were implemented? Or maybe you've noticed no change at all. Expand
They fixed the defence,now you are not anymore a welcomeduty team. This season at least we have some more roles that are working but as you see there are tons of them that are not even taken in cosideration and that's is like what are they even there? (because there are tactic that work only if you play them and not plug and play).
But it feel like they should give some focus on those "without love" roles. Maybe i am wrong because i didn't test them yet like i am doing for the Wing roles and wingbacks.
Pass completation was boosted or fixed before you wouldn't reach like 80%.
But still feel to me like it's a fm22.5 more then a new version.
That's another shape that i've always loved, stopped to working about that like 20(more or less) days ago, but i've seen that it's somehow working around and decided to back on it and do more test on it.
Sp's are from ZBM aka Zombie Billy Mays, gonna implement them with more on meta as well to check if those can be improved!
@Ajax depends if you wanna play it or test it! CWBH137 is focused on the striker, if you want a overall good one then the "pre" or "post". Lemme know your results with it
Spoiler
Another transition of 4231 Pre-Post Meta Bible that i might work on this period.. Basically IFs became SS, at the time i was sure the game was more focused on the center,but the rules were really out of it. For the rest is basically a 4231 but narrowed.
At the time,i've added old meta rules,would be nice to see now if it can be decent. Stay tuned on it.
4231N Team Extreme
Spoiler
So,we doing it, where everything started, i hope there is any room to make the greatest shape ever working.
This version is all the adaptation of the rules of this FM23, first is underlaps without IWB (it's coming next).
41212 Extreme
Spoiler
The whole idea was from a guy on my discord! This shape remind me the Goal Galore from FM22
Ok, so here i am.. I am facing a wall of datas, that were released here : that i am gonna call the Bibble, just because for me was really a good work.
So i posted 2 tactics : one that i would used/assembled with the pre-bibble of datas and one post that and to me something is quite strange, i don't know if that is something that the staff would test or not but to me is something strange,beside that i guess everyone knows that vacation taken as test is something full of rng and variation, but to preset a tactic we have to do something so here the vacation test:
On the first pictures 1pre 2pre you can see a tactic that if you analyze the meta around you would use/make/create, based on my previous knowdledge of the "meta", since is a game i guess we can call it like that to make things easier.
On the second post that is something i would make after the released of the datas,i know that is rng i don't even know how the hell that happened but that made me laugh a bit because somehow both of the tactics ended up at 97 points.
Someone could say : you used City,is normal that the team wins: Will clarify this,i can make more vacation test with others teams with those tactics but i am pretty sure the results on vacation will be the pretty similar.
I've putted new sp's that i find more efficent around the web(maybe because none is getting datas about sp's stats), gonna find away to test them as well later.
How are those PI's and tactic istruction working? that's something i gonna test later, but would like a help from the science as well!
Sorry for the wall of text, it's ok even if those tactics won't get tested i am just trying to figure out this mistery!
For now i will put on pause(guess waiting for the patch is a must)the offensive story,going to assemble positive or balanced tactics.
So,i passed the last days to make a testing league as a tool and checking every combination :
This 4231 Islam Focus Strike V4 is the last version that i am trying to figure out if i am wrong or not about the SS, i did more then 100 test about it, but i am losing my brain somewhere and this one was the best perfomed on my test league.
Sorry for the italian language on screens but my FM23 is getting xml.parsing something everytime i change language :|
I've runned vacation on City just for the shows.
Gonna release a IWB and WB version and one mixed thing that i've in mind.
I don't know if it's better to make a post for each version or is cool enough to keep them in here. Just won't spam the whole forum out..
that's it
Here you go :
For players just put Tackle harder.
Love you.
That's the Attacking version :
Changelog:
Spoiler
Unlucky those runs were a bit fm'ed, alot of injuries etc but that's it!
4141 Khabib
Spoiler Changelog:
Tweaked a bit and checked some more roles:
4141 FYD PBM WD P
Spoiler Changelog:
More tweak about the metarulesless development and those DLP,that sometimes make you dream and the other time the worst nightmare.
Tested with Bournemouth: 3rd place 76 points
4141 Khabib v5
Spoiler Changelog:
So,i basically wanted to find a foundation to were to start to apply tweaks,the tactic will works better on next (at least i do hope it), i won't transition yet to 4-2-4 or the main topic 4-4-2, i rather go on 343 or stuff like that and i feel now that i have a bit of data,i can make something better,i've already got the set pieces version,but i want to make more test to present a better version that this. Basically, i've putted those backs on support because it needed a bit of supportive points,even if we do like everything on attack,sometimes we have to accept the fact that we can't... maybe gonna present few more tactics to get tested but with more datasolidity this time.
4141 Khabib 13-0
Spoiler Changelog:
-Set pieces reworked from Reliable Set Pieces
-WB into IWB (this is an attempt to follow the meta)
-IW to IF but on (SU)
-IWB on (SU)
4141 Khabib 14-0 - https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/17143/
4141 Hardy - https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/17318/
4141 Alhamdulillah - https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/17474/
4141 Chainsaw - https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/17614/
They fixed the defence,now you are not anymore a welcomeduty team. This season at least we have some more roles that are working but as you see there are tons of them that are not even taken in cosideration and that's is like what are they even there? (because there are tactic that work only if you play them and not plug and play).
But it feel like they should give some focus on those "without love" roles. Maybe i am wrong because i didn't test them yet like i am doing for the Wing roles and wingbacks.
Pass completation was boosted or fixed before you wouldn't reach like 80%.
But still feel to me like it's a fm22.5 more then a new version.
That's another shape that i've always loved, stopped to working about that like 20(more or less) days ago, but i've seen that it's somehow working around and decided to back on it and do more test on it.
Sp's are from ZBM aka Zombie Billy Mays, gonna implement them with more on meta as well to check if those can be improved!
Which number do you think you should look for in your system? speed and the other general numbers?
Pace and acceleration imho are broken, rest is just a generic way to see if a player fit it or not
We never know, the flow might change!
All games 3d match.
Glad is working! Imma try to make some "meta tweak" as well soon just to see how we can juice more perfomance out of it
4231Post Meta Bibble v3
That's the IWB version.
Spoiler
4231Post Meta Bibble v2
Yo, made the CWB version and going for the IWB one! And maybe later gonna release something strange
Spoiler
Basically IFs became SS, at the time i was sure the game was more focused on the center,but the rules were really out of it. For the rest is basically a 4231 but narrowed.
At the time,i've added old meta rules,would be nice to see now if it can be decent.
Stay tuned on it.
4231N Team Extreme
Spoiler So,we doing it, where everything started, i hope there is any room to make the greatest shape ever working.
This version is all the adaptation of the rules of this FM23, first is underlaps without IWB (it's coming next).
41212 Extreme
Spoiler The whole idea was from a guy on my discord! This shape remind me the Goal Galore from FM22
Ok, so here i am.. I am facing a wall of datas, that were released here : that i am gonna call the Bibble, just because for me was really a good work.
So i posted 2 tactics : one that i would used/assembled with the pre-bibble of datas and one post that and to me something is quite strange, i don't know if that is something that the staff would test or not but to me is something strange,beside that i guess everyone knows that vacation taken as test is something full of rng and variation, but to preset a tactic we have to do something so here the vacation test:
On the first pictures 1pre 2pre you can see a tactic that if you analyze the meta around you would use/make/create, based on my previous knowdledge of the "meta", since is a game i guess we can call it like that to make things easier.
On the second post that is something i would make after the released of the datas,i know that is rng i don't even know how the hell that happened but that made me laugh a bit because somehow both of the tactics ended up at 97 points.
Someone could say : you used City,is normal that the team wins: Will clarify this,i can make more vacation test with others teams with those tactics but i am pretty sure the results on vacation will be the pretty similar.
I've putted new sp's that i find more efficent around the web(maybe because none is getting datas about sp's stats), gonna find away to test them as well later.
How are those PI's and tactic istruction working? that's something i gonna test later, but would like a help from the science as well!
Sorry for the wall of text, it's ok even if those tactics won't get tested i am just trying to figure out this mistery!
For now i will put on pause(guess waiting for the patch is a must)the offensive story,going to assemble positive or balanced tactics.
So,i passed the last days to make a testing league as a tool and checking every combination :
This 4231 Islam Focus Strike V4 is the last version that i am trying to figure out if i am wrong or not about the SS, i did more then 100 test about it, but i am losing my brain somewhere and this one was the best perfomed on my test league.
Sorry for the italian language on screens but my FM23 is getting xml.parsing something everytime i change language :|
I've runned vacation on City just for the shows.
Gonna release a IWB and WB version and one mixed thing that i've in mind.
I don't know if it's better to make a post for each version or is cool enough to keep them in here.
Just won't spam the whole forum out..
Similar to how "World of the best tactic in fm23 by ntr master" tweaked the original "WestHammer_4231DM by MakeSuRE" with two AF Strikers I decided to tweak the new "WestHammer_4231_Invert by MakeSuRE".
Tactic Screenshot:
Credit obviously to @MakeSuRE for original tactic.
Hope it works well!
Result screenshot from Roma (Credit @Sigismund)
Good choice to test it with the best team in World! AS Roma!