crizeKOS said: well it debuffed xmas, may the amount u players that u have upfront matters... or is just RNG Expand
It was well tested by FM-Arena that those stuff doesn't matter, i was sure it would matter in-game but the Dark lord said that it's working on the same way(how the game being processed), because if "the IA" or "enemy player" would use just long pass, i could just lower the Lof, or the IA AM(our best friend) is already doing it.
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SS went to AM (SU) IW back-again in the game IWB for back Underlaps+focus down play. Maybe Am is really good enough to put SS on the bench like i predicted like 1 mounth + ago :P. Gonna test a bit further this, to check if is better on (su) or (A) or SS still the tier god. IW seem work better with IWB,gotta check FB/WB/CWB+IF combo at all.
Those tactics are just a base for you players and i am really glad that you play it and provide me feedbacks,once i am done with the test i will make even "save-engergy" but i am sure you doing a great job already ^^!
At the moment i am working on many tactics in order to gather more data possible and provide solid tactics and i really won't release something just to make "content"
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So, i was working to the shape and after the result of StoneFree_5-2-3 by @MemorizableUsername,i've took a look and found that set pieces are different from the mass(or maybe i never seen them before), i kept the defend one and changed the rest.
Licious-meta template applied.
343 Poetry in Motion
Changelog:
Spoiler
Simple tweak to find out if for real 343 is better with libero
343 Extreme Suplex to the wind
Changelog:
Spoiler
WB change from (a) to (su) Vol change from (su) to (a)
Zippo said: Nah, I'd better leave both tactics so people will drive you mad with a question "WTF?! Why both tactics are the same"! I hope it'll teach you a lesson.
Even if i made some tweaks i don't really care about "rights" and "stuff", was just curious to see if we can break the test league even more. The base is totaly Xmas,i've adjust a "bit" the sps that are totaly a mess @crizeKOS and tactical options to give a sum-up to how i would have builded this mostruisity!
And checking out this high-line.
Don't judge me too hard,it's purely for the science.
I won't even load this thing on my pc anymore,so for any kind of support contact @crizeKOS!
I would've even removed cross from byline,but let it for the show
Spoiler
That setup is to confirm how the wingers are nerfed compared to IF.
IF=W (A) Back = IWB (SU)
4132 Breaking the Habit
Changelog:
Spoiler
Winger changed from (A) to W=(SU)
4132 Parabelle
Changelog:
Spoiler
W changed to IW still on (SU)
Even the run was almost perfect fm striked hard on last games
4132 Wake Up
Changelog:
Spoiler
Just to complete the route.
IW changed on Attack. For now is gonna put on hold till the results coming out,need to rework sp's and tune some hidden things.
4132 Chainsaw
Changelog:
Spoiler
Basically SS became an AM=this version is on attack duty,seem KDB went on steroids and became almost the wild beast,the run it self ain't even lucky because Klopp was even more on steroids then our team :P.
4132 Chainsaw II
Changelog:
Spoiler
AM on (SU)
We can call it the runner-up vacation.
4132 Chainsaw III
Changelog:
Spoiler
IWB on (A).
4132 Chainsaw IV
Changelog:
Spoiler
W become a IF.
Super Vacation Test! Quituple
4132 Smile Again
Changelog:
SpoilerSpoiler
This one was missing from the backs route with the SS.
4132 Team Extreme II
Changelog:
Spoiler
This is to test out AM(SU) and WB combo
I've fixed the SP's here,once all of this madness gonna end i am going to "remastered even those one that got high points"
Edit:
Did a cernita about the tactics that i am more or less sure will be just a waste of computing power.
what kind of Assembler do you believe am i? The only limit is the sky and Arena-Machine. Sp's i don't even know if sp's are decent at the moment. The only thing is missing is to put a Striker 1.85 so i can play focus on him like i wanted to do
Zippo said: Unfortunately, the developers don't do good when it comes to communication with their fan base, obviously, there is lack of communication on their side and that creates a lot of myths about FM, and 99% of those myths is complete bullshit.
I suggest only trusting to official sources, or sources that confirms their information is from official sources.
You can compare the data that you get playing matches in 3D with the data that you get playing matches on 'Holiday' only if there's an equal amount of matches played.
I'd say the minimal amount of matches that can be taken into consideration is about 600 matches, I can't believe that someone can play 600 matches in 3D to test a tactic. Expand
It's not like i don't trust my Dark lord. I am just saying what myths saying
But i do find vacation test the ultimate bullshit still.
Zippo said: There's really no difference when you play matches in 3D, 2D, Instant Result or Holiday modes, it uses the same M.E. to calculate the match.
When you watch a match in 3D or 2D mode, it's already been played, it doesn't play in real time as you might think, otherwise it wasn't possible to put comments.
You probably have noticed that when you watch a match in 3D match and make tactical changes then it takes few seconds to apply them and during that take the match is being replayed taking into account the changes you made.
For a good PC it takes only about 0.01 second to play a match and when you watch a match in 3D, it's been played already.
The above isn't my guess about how the game work, it's information from the developer who created the match engine.
You might ask where did I get it from, I can tell that information from my friends who participate in closed beta tests, they communicate directly to the game developers and what I told you isn't a secret information ( no DNA on it ).
Once more, the information above is 100% true, it received from the developer who stands behind creation of the M.E. ( Match Engine ) Expand
I do believe it,but since you are "passing" the wheel to the IA,idk if is happening on FM23 as well but on previous one it would literally change your players,swapping them etc if that is happening it's already altering the whole thing we call "Vacation test". I don't know but i find the vacation test uniliterally useless. The whole thing i did tried to explain and that some roles are working in different way from "processed" and "3D", that something i've read in tons of different places,it might be false but so i don't understand why some roles are tested trough for example : Arena/vacation are giving different results if you play them in 3D. It was something like the GPUI can't process some movements, but we are really going in deepth on something i've just read about it.
It was well tested by FM-Arena that those stuff doesn't matter, i was sure it would matter in-game but the Dark lord said that it's working on the same way(how the game being processed), because if "the IA" or "enemy player" would use just long pass, i could just lower the Lof, or the IA AM(our best friend) is already doing it.
It's not for this shape is for every shape...
4141 Chainsaw
Changelog:
Spoiler SS went to AM (SU)
IW back-again in the game
IWB for back
Underlaps+focus down play.
Maybe Am is really good enough to put SS on the bench like i predicted like 1 mounth + ago :P.
Gonna test a bit further this, to check if is better on (su) or (A) or SS still the tier god.
IW seem work better with IWB,gotta check FB/WB/CWB+IF combo at all.
Player Istructions :
Rest all tackle harder.
At the moment i am working on many tactics in order to gather more data possible and provide solid tactics and i really won't release something just to make "content"
go 3 SS and we call it the "JUSTICE HAMMER"
Spoiler So, i was working to the shape and after the result of StoneFree_5-2-3 by @MemorizableUsername,i've took a look and found that set pieces are different from the mass(or maybe i never seen them before), i kept the defend one and changed the rest.
Licious-meta template applied.
343 Poetry in Motion
Changelog:
Spoiler Simple tweak to find out if for real 343 is better with libero
343 Extreme Suplex to the wind
Changelog:
Spoiler WB change from (a) to (su)
Vol change from (su) to (a)
Fool,he want bring us to the Dark side... Be carefull!
Stay step away or he can grab you!
That's our Dark Lord...
deepest sorry @Zippo can you delete one of them or reset one so i can put the right one ._.! Maybe i should've called it in another way...
And i don't like to call tactics "vXn"
I even did upload the same images,totaly dumb on my part.
And checking out this high-line.
Don't judge me too hard,it's purely for the science.
I won't even load this thing on my pc anymore,so for any kind of support contact @crizeKOS!
I would've even removed cross from byline,but let it for the show
Changelog:
Spoiler That setup is to confirm how the wingers are nerfed compared to IF.
IF=W (A)
Back = IWB (SU)
4132 Breaking the Habit
Changelog:
Spoiler Winger changed from (A) to W=(SU)
4132 Parabelle
Changelog:
Spoiler W changed to IW still on (SU)
Even the run was almost perfect fm striked hard on last games
4132 Wake Up
Changelog:
Spoiler Just to complete the route.
IW changed on Attack. For now is gonna put on hold till the results coming out,need to rework sp's and tune some hidden things.
4132 Chainsaw
Changelog:
Spoiler Basically SS became an AM=this version is on attack duty,seem KDB went on steroids and became almost the wild beast,the run it self ain't even lucky because Klopp was even more on steroids then our team :P.
4132 Chainsaw II
Changelog:
Spoiler AM on (SU)
We can call it the runner-up vacation.
4132 Chainsaw III
Changelog:
Spoiler IWB on (A).
4132 Chainsaw IV
Changelog:
Spoiler W become a IF.
Super Vacation Test! Quituple
4132 Smile Again
Changelog:
Spoiler Spoiler This one was missing from the backs route with the SS.
4132 Team Extreme II
Changelog:
Spoiler This is to test out AM(SU) and WB combo
I've fixed the SP's here,once all of this madness gonna end i am going to "remastered even those one that got high points"
Edit:
Did a cernita about the tactics that i am more or less sure will be just a waste of computing power.
Sp's i don't even know if sp's are decent at the moment. The only thing is missing is to put a Striker 1.85 so i can play focus on him like i wanted to do
I suggest only trusting to official sources, or sources that confirms their information is from official sources.
You can compare the data that you get playing matches in 3D with the data that you get playing matches on 'Holiday' only if there's an equal amount of matches played.
I'd say the minimal amount of matches that can be taken into consideration is about 600 matches, I can't believe that someone can play 600 matches in 3D to test a tactic.
It's not like i don't trust my Dark lord. I am just saying what myths saying
But i do find vacation test the ultimate bullshit still.
Spare me o great Dark Lord
When you watch a match in 3D or 2D mode, it's already been played, it doesn't play in real time as you might think, otherwise it wasn't possible to put comments.
You probably have noticed that when you watch a match in 3D match and make tactical changes then it takes few seconds to apply them and during that take the match is being replayed taking into account the changes you made.
For a good PC it takes only about 0.01 second to play a match and when you watch a match in 3D, it's been played already.
The above isn't my guess about how the game work, it's information from the developer who created the match engine.
You might ask where did I get it from, I can tell that information from my friends who participate in closed beta tests, they communicate directly to the game developers and what I told you isn't a secret information ( no DNA on it ).
Once more, the information above is 100% true, it received from the developer who stands behind creation of the M.E. ( Match Engine )
I do believe it,but since you are "passing" the wheel to the IA,idk if is happening on FM23 as well but on previous one it would literally change your players,swapping them etc if that is happening it's already altering the whole thing we call "Vacation test".
I don't know but i find the vacation test uniliterally useless. The whole thing i did tried to explain and that some roles are working in different way from "processed" and "3D", that something i've read in tons of different places,it might be false but so i don't understand why some roles are tested trough for example : Arena/vacation are giving different results if you play them in 3D.
It was something like the GPUI can't process some movements, but we are really going in deepth on something i've just read about it.