Cherknam said: Are these the most important stats for every position? Do I need to prioritise dribbling for CBs? Expand
These were just the starting attribute values for Bournemouth and what they would've been with +3, I'd say you'd need to find a base value for all of the attributes
Zippo said: Could you elaborate? I don't understand your question. Expand
No worries, when you added +3 to these attributes, Acceleration, Agility, Pace, Anticipating, Concentration, Work Rate and Dribbling. What was the lowest attribute value set at?
I'm just trying to work out if say the value of 12 in each of those attributes would be enough. I am looking to adapt my attribute filters to those attributes but Im looking to see what values will be needed
Itsyaboy420 said: yes, it's because i think it's getting ridiculous seeing the same shape and mentality occupying like 9 of the top ten in most points. i would like it if the scoreboard view is revised so that all of the 424 formation get in their own threads and compare against each other there. So people could see what other shape and mentality that kind of works. It's like what @ZaZ recommended. Also i would like to have a filter for mentality, i mean man that would be a grace from the heaven if i could sort out mentality, i wouldn't be complaining if that feature exist. About making tactics on my own, i do kind of want to do that, but i just don't have the will to see it through. Once again i am truly sorry if my comment offends you @CBP87 , there was never any harm intended and my comments are truly just because i was annoyed at having to search like a mad man for different shape and mentality in this site. another thing is because i like this site, that's why i give my opinion so that eventually i hope it could be better. Expand
You haven't offended me. Again Ill say that you'll find these tactics at the top of the table because this shape and mentality is working on this M.E. Its not the tactics you have an issue with its the filtering options that are available from what I've read.@Zippo is there any potential scope to maybe add a filer in for mentality on the tactics table? @Itsyaboy420 There is already a filter available for the shape you want.
Itsyaboy420 said: some people do be sensitive, alright then I'll make my statement, stop it with the balanced method and similar shape, get creative people. try making different shapes and method works. if anybody is hurt by this comment then I am truly very sorry. Expand
I keep seeing you make similar comments to this, but I can't find any tactics of yours, I mean if its bothering you that much then show us that other mentalities and shapes are working. The reason your seeing these tactics is because balanced mentality and a 424 formation is most effective this year. Its not for one for trying, people have tried different mentalities and shape but there not as effective as this shape and mentality
Droid said: @CBP87, I guess if you want it gets tested then you'd better upload pics of the full fixtures. Expand
Ahhh shit!! Forgot about that, will need to re do the holiday test. I normally show the fixtures for the CL games as the competition drops off the other screens when the final has been played
I've put together this 451, the idea was to create a tactic that was sound defensively (21 conceded in the league) but also very effective going forward (108 goals in the league) Haaland scored 84 goals playing as a DLF. The IFs are on support, the idea is that we create passing triangles on each flank using overlap left and right to hopefully create a then passing square.
Tested with City, with AM in charge of training. Starting 11 selected and holiday mode engaged. Quadruple won.
Itsyaboy420 said: Tired of seeing balanced tactics just all over the scoreboard, need a true and good score points attacking tactics, cuz sometimes balanced mentality doesn't cut it out when you're the underdog. Expand
That's because the balanced mentality is working, people have tried positive, attacking and very attacking mentalities and they aren't as effective as balanced. Balanced tactics are just dominating this site but others too
Tactic is based on this one https://fm-arena.com/thread/3150-424-zone/ created by Delicious. I have tweaked it slightly and have been using it in my traveller save. It has been successful in Brazil, France and now England. I tested it with City and the results are below. Narrowly losing out in the UCL final as Dias got a red card which led to Juve scoring 90th and 92nd minute and also no cheat code Haaland
Main changes are - WB to IWB - IF to Winger - Low crosses to whipped
Solaris said: Here're some reasons why French team might do well:
- French team might have better players than other teams
- The AI manager of French team might have better attributes than other AI managers
- if the league plays 100 matches and you test without using FMRTE then teams with a deep bench get an advantage so it might French team has 22 good players and other teams only 14-17 good players
- At the start the Team Cohesion of French team might be better than other teams have
There could be many other factors... Expand
The one constant I found when looking at the French team was the shape they used. The other variables are difficult to mimic because the team selection changes as well as some instructions and yes the French team may have better players but the shape was a constant, but FMRTE wasn't used so as you said team selection would vary. I'm aware of all the other factors but I can't duplicate what I can't see and bear in mind you don't have data hub or analyst reports at international level
Solaris said: Here're some reasons why French team might do well:
- French team might have better players than other teams
- The AI manager of French team might have better attributes than other AI managers
- if the league plays 100 matches and you test without using FMRTE then teams with a deep bench get an advantage so it might French team has 22 good players and other teams just 14-17 good players
- At the start the Team Cohesion of French team might be better than other teams have
There could be many other reasons... Expand
Thanks for pointing that out, I never realised other factors could contribute to a teams success
These were just the starting attribute values for Bournemouth and what they would've been with +3, I'd say you'd need to find a base value for all of the attributes
I would say at a minimum you need the attributes to be around 13/14
No worries, when you added +3 to these attributes, Acceleration, Agility, Pace, Anticipating, Concentration, Work Rate and Dribbling. What was the lowest attribute value set at?
I'm just trying to work out if say the value of 12 in each of those attributes would be enough. I am looking to adapt my attribute filters to those attributes but Im looking to see what values will be needed
In terms of the starting XI for Bournemouth for CA 149, do you know what the lowest attribute was at?
You haven't offended me. Again Ill say that you'll find these tactics at the top of the table because this shape and mentality is working on this M.E. Its not the tactics you have an issue with its the filtering options that are available from what I've read.@Zippo is there any potential scope to maybe add a filer in for mentality on the tactics table? @Itsyaboy420 There is already a filter available for the shape you want.
I keep seeing you make similar comments to this, but I can't find any tactics of yours, I mean if its bothering you that much then show us that other mentalities and shapes are working. The reason your seeing these tactics is because balanced mentality and a 424 formation is most effective this year. Its not for one for trying, people have tried different mentalities and shape but there not as effective as this shape and mentality
Changes from https://fm-arena.com/thread/3308-poatan-451
- DLF > AF
Ahhh shit!! Forgot about that, will need to re do the holiday test. I normally show the fixtures for the CL games as the competition drops off the other screens when the final has been played
I've put together this 451, the idea was to create a tactic that was sound defensively (21 conceded in the league) but also very effective going forward (108 goals in the league) Haaland scored 84 goals playing as a DLF. The IFs are on support, the idea is that we create passing triangles on each flank using overlap left and right to hopefully create a then passing square.
Tested with City, with AM in charge of training. Starting 11 selected and holiday mode engaged. Quadruple won.
2nd run (Included results)
That's because the balanced mentality is working, people have tried positive, attacking and very attacking mentalities and they aren't as effective as balanced. Balanced tactics are just dominating this site but others too
Main changes are
- WB to IWB
- IF to Winger
- Low crosses to whipped
I'm afraid I don't pal
Just make sure the determination is at a very good level, +15, otherwise you could get negative impacts from mentoring
Probably could have done with adding roll it out back in too
Changes made from https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/18117/
- Added overlap left/right
- Removed throw it long
- Added Get Stuck In
I have mixed up the shape of the last shadow with the majority of the TIs and SPs from @Delicious 343 Suplex to the wind tactic https://fm-arena.com/thread/3161-3atb-contest/
Changes made by me were
- Middle striker to AM
- Removed Overlap
- Roll it out to Throw it long
- Removed get stuck in
- French team might have better players than other teams
- The AI manager of French team might have better attributes than other AI managers
- if the league plays 100 matches and you test without using FMRTE then teams with a deep bench get an advantage so it might French team has 22 good players and other teams only 14-17 good players
- At the start the Team Cohesion of French team might be better than other teams have
There could be many other factors...
The one constant I found when looking at the French team was the shape they used. The other variables are difficult to mimic because the team selection changes as well as some instructions and yes the French team may have better players but the shape was a constant, but FMRTE wasn't used so as you said team selection would vary. I'm aware of all the other factors but I can't duplicate what I can't see and bear in mind you don't have data hub or analyst reports at international level
- French team might have better players than other teams
- The AI manager of French team might have better attributes than other AI managers
- if the league plays 100 matches and you test without using FMRTE then teams with a deep bench get an advantage so it might French team has 22 good players and other teams just 14-17 good players
- At the start the Team Cohesion of French team might be better than other teams have
There could be many other reasons...
Thanks for pointing that out, I never realised other factors could contribute to a teams success