dzek said: I agree but the point I was making was to test all HoF tactics up to 4000 matches, not all 4231 tactics.


I have done several tests in my own environment and it seems that this year the 4231 - 424 - 442 shapes are outperforming. But how can you see the difference some PIs will have in some positions when you don't at least test the first tactics in each formation until 4000 matches to know what stays and what goes?

An example..
Here I have tried exactly the same tactic with 2 slight differences and have gotten the same score.
4231 - WITH Take More Risks on AM and AF.
4231 - WITHOUT Take More Risks on AM and AF. Expand

You are right that some seemingly insignificant details may indeed have an impact and should be tried to change. And I think Kane's purge of individual player directives has been very effective, Without taking More Risks seems really important.

4231 How strong is this portfolio of responsibilities? Take a look at KNAP's answer. very attacking+ Balanced rhythm +more diect passing can also get the highest score.

dzek said: We've also seen the downside that some systems have stayed at 2400 matches and we don't know if they're going to progress, get worse or stay the same. I'm talking specifically about the tactics that are within the HoF.

EDIT: And as I've said many times it would be nice in the HoF section to have tactics that have equal or more than 1.51 PPG because all results are converted to regular season games and in a regular season if you don't have at least half the points then it's not considered as an overachieve.

The reason behind this is because we are aiming to overachieve with a team that has a CA average that is in the middle of the league. If we use the best or worst team then the RNG will be higher due to the skill of our players and so the score here will not fully represent the results we get in a regular season or over time. Expand

As we discussed before, the 4231 tactical combination of duties, the effect of various Settings are very good, not even the ARENA 4000 match test can draw accurate conclusions, still has 1~2 RNG. Many players don't know which commands are critical or useful, so there is a lot of overlapping tactics. In fact, they have succeeded, but 1200 games of RNG killed them, and the work really does not mean much. In fact, there are some other good tactics because of RNG was "mistakenly killed", this is actually no way, ARENA has done enough. Therefore, I think it is not necessary to continuously make some meaningful changes to the 4231 tactics for the current combination of responsibilities, after all, luck will always be the first. Do your own challenges like BLAU did.

good job! We are from the same country and I would often browse the PGM forums, so I have seen your tactical posts. You may not have been checking ARENA's tactical posts often before, so I found that your previous tactics overlapped a lot with others (although there are others doing the same), but this tactic clearly has your personal elements, IFS+IFA, cleaner player personal instructions, congratulations on the top! Have time to play online leagues, you must know the famous online leagues.

RaiZen said: Hello, if I want 2 WB to cross more instead of shooting, can I add Player Instruction Run Wide With Ball Or Cross More Often? Expand

Sure, but I don't think it will improve, the overall tactical fix will limit WB's behavior. And shouldn't WB's cut-in shot be more of a threat?

Still abandon defense and strengthen offense.

Position with parallel contraction.

Is asymmetry still better than symmetry in 24.21? I don't feel the effect is any different, maybe a little worse.See what happens.
Changed: Asymmetrical stance, added "Focus Play Down The Left".

Two main changes：
Remove“Pass Into Space”
SS side changed from "Overlap" to "Underlap"

The use of CFS in 424 tactics.

Let a defensive midfielder forward press into CMA, can the defense still hold up?

Will there be some sparks when the double slides meet the IFB?

The change of the center AP to the left wing IW will reduce the WBA's playing space, but it will also allow the attack to become a little more free.

There are many options for the right wing combinations and individual player instructions, and there are correspondingly too many different Settings for the offensive panel, which creates too many possibilities. I really don't know how to choose.

hdv said: Has this been tried with focus on flanks and potentially under/overlap? Expand

I didn't test this. I didn't have that much time.  I usually decide whether to test these two instructions based on the theoretical overall tactical response score, and if the overall tactical response score is already above the qualifying line, I usually do not add these two instructions.This is kind of a summary thing, so I think adding these two directives wouldn't help.

Blau + letsgo9 + A Smile + AI = This tactic.
Blau's formation, letsgo9's defensive midfield combo, AI's defensive duties combo, plus my own offensive instructions, should be powerful?

Change DMS to VOLS, cancel "Get Fuerther Forward" and change to "Move Into Channels". This setting makes the middle more balanced and more consistent with the underlap setting.
Change IFS to IFA，because the VOLS bring more maneuvering ability, increasing the direct aggression of the wings.
VOLS 'defensive ability is weak relative to DMS, would such a change be better?

lord676 said: so that means the SS will be in AMCR or AMCL and IFS on another side? Expand

It's two for one. It's the same either way. Can be understood as taking down the AMC, IF adduction on one side changes SS.

Ze Henrick said: @A Smile My striker scores few goals, what do you recommend me to do? Another question: In away games my team has great difficulty, especially against bigger teams and those about to be relegated, what do you suggest doing? Thank you very much in advance and I apologize for the English as I used a translator. Expand

Maybe the single striker formation is not suitable, this formation is strong control. But I think it would be better if your forwards were all-around physical types.As for the second question, I don't know what to do, I don't play single player mode, and I probably have to rely on luck other than switching to more conservative tactics.

lord676 said: what should i do when i lose 1 player to red card? Expand

I think we should replace an IF+AMA with SS between them and choose overlap on their side.