GeorgeFloydOverdosed said: I guess a better way of putting it is that I don't want to come across as being snide, as I'm not driven by putting other people down and I also think there's a lot of great info being posted by this Zippo fellow (does he run the joint as well? I don't know).
The obvious retort is, well don't be snide. But how else are you meant to point out contradictions? It's not like I'm calling him an idiot. I'm just saying, look I think you're mistaken on this matter and here's my reasoning why. My name is a reference to this problem. A lot of people will read it and get their knickers in a knot. But it's just a factual claim. Even if it's not true, the real point of contention here for me is apparently we can't debate the facts out in the open on certain matters because it is tantamount to humiliation for people. I don't want to humiliate people, I just want to have a sober discussion about the facts as I see them. And aside from that, what's wrong with getting some enjoyment out of saying 'ackshally you're wrong' sometimes?
In my other thread you said you agreed with the comment that my name isn't appropriate for a FM forum. I chose it for an FM forum because my experience with SI staff has been that if you point out inconvenient truths about the game mechanics, you get hounded as ruining the game for people and banned for being 'insulting' or 'trolling'. Whereas here seems to be a forum where you can say such truths about the game openly. This is an pseudonymous forum, which lessens the need for decorum than in everyday human interaction, but I recognize that there's still a fellow egotist on the other side of the screen. Expand
What a load of shit😂. Do you think we're five years old?! Exposing the truths about football manager has nothing to do with your username.
Clearly you're desperate to be someone in the community, but all you're mainly doing is regurgitating other people's work. Well done. Bravo. You're a nobody. But at least you've got that username, really sticking it to SI!!
nimus said: Could you please recommend a few world-class players for each position? I'm asking because I'm curious about which attributes are most important for each specific role. Expand
World class is tough.
But a few faves; Gadou(variable pa) Alex Freeman, Saba, Bouaddi, Leon Grgic, Monga, Bergvall, Paz, Yildiz, Yoro, Minteh, Gilberto Mora, Uzun,
Bar2 said: This tactic is very effective against teams on my level or weaker, but I end up losing heavily against stronger teams. What could be causing that?
And which attributes would you recommend for the players in each position in this tactic when making transfers? Expand
With this tactic you can go from non league to league winners in straight seasons and probably win the champions league the year after.
You need to replace any players who are slow - acceleration and pace are the most important attributes.
GeorgeFloydOverdosed said: This simply isn't true. I just played a game with my 1 CA 20 NAT players to confirm, my ST went down to 61% in-match, 67% post-match. Perhaps it is true if match sharpness is also 100%. And if memory serves me correctly, natural fitness does not even affect condition fall rate, it is stamina that does.
As your stats show, the performance loss would be significant. It's not impossible to maintain ~100% condition, it's quite easy. Another reason is that you will also otherwise suffer exponentially greater injuries, as EBFM found injury rates of:
And those injuries create a vicious cycle of low match fitness & condition leading to more injuries. I would guesstimate injuries double overall if starting at 90-93% condition.
Is that really so? According to EBFM's data, the difference between the most intense and least intense settings were 1-2% condition difference by end of match.
Match sharpness is very important, more important than condition. It's performance impact is greater, and it's harder to maintain. So using rest is usually a bad idea, from my analysis of it.
These results might not be directly comparable, but you say that starting at 88% condition results in 16% worse performance. EBFM found that match sharpness 100% > 90% reduces win rate by 33.3% and injuries increased by ~25%.
I know I come across as a bit of a knob here with all of this, but it's partly that I can't resist knocking down falsehoods, and partly that I wrote a post on here about this very topic recently so I'm a bit of a zealot about it. I know I state a lot of things that turn out to be erroneous myself. This is just part of the process of discovery. Expand
Thought I'd F around and find out using the tactic, with Harvest training and won the champions League with Hibs in the third season. Obviously bought well along the way but lol
I've been playing with [Quickness]+[Match Practise]+[Recovery]x7+[Attacking]+[Additional Focus Quickness]+[Double Intensity] for a while, but I notice my players get injuries a lot and they don't have the injury icon as a con. I also rotate my players to not let them play while being at risk of getting an injury, although this isn't always unavoidable.
I was wondering if this is normal behaviour and I don't need to worry too much or if I maybe am doing something wrong or missing something. Or am I maybe even using the wrong training schedule? Expand
Are your players all set to automatic intensity? Alternatively just leave the second to last condition on rest as well. You will still see insane growth in speed and ca.
From the screenshots posted you really should try to adjust some of the weights to position. For example full backs and DM 's need stamina far more than centre backs. I would weight stamina quite highly for these positions, along with work rate. DM 's don't need dribbling either
debelizec19 said: Dear @keithb please can you explain what the trainig should look like for matches on tuesday and saturday(and other combinations) or give example? You mentiond that we need to be careful when we have matches on different days in week. So now I am little bit confused about training schedules on different days. I am using [Quickness]+[Match Practice]+[Attacking]+[Recovery]x7+[Double Intensity]+[Additional Focus Quickness]. Hope you understand what I am trying to understand Expand
Within the game you can make ALL your games to be played on Wednesday and Saturday and you should absolutely turn this on.
VenEttore said: There's another thread made by harvestgreen22 in which he tested goalkeeper attributes, and some of these findings seem to be at odds with his tests. Just to confirm, are these results for any player regardless of position or role? Expand
What I can say about their testing is the training they developed is incredible. And I think his testing results are pretty good too. I wondered about the result of say finishing and composure both being 20. Looked interesting to me
abde said: It doesn't matter how you distribute the training sessions, u just need the right number of sessions as the author mentioned in one of his replies. this is how I set mine for 1 game a week on Saturday and 2 games on Wednesday and Saturday. Expand
@Rohde9 this is what you want to use and make sure your games are scheduled for wednesday and Saturday only. This is very important.
Which team are you managing? Have you set up the rest and individual training correctly? I have used this training and it is by far the best I've ever used. I have so many players hitting 20 for pace or acceleration. Now they were already fast when I bought them and young, say 14-15 for those attributes, but how quickly they get to 19-20 is amazing.
I believe this training to me the most game-breaking thing out there tbh. Because we all know how powerful speed is. The difference in my teams is phenomenal.
The obvious retort is, well don't be snide. But how else are you meant to point out contradictions? It's not like I'm calling him an idiot. I'm just saying, look I think you're mistaken on this matter and here's my reasoning why. My name is a reference to this problem. A lot of people will read it and get their knickers in a knot. But it's just a factual claim. Even if it's not true, the real point of contention here for me is apparently we can't debate the facts out in the open on certain matters because it is tantamount to humiliation for people. I don't want to humiliate people, I just want to have a sober discussion about the facts as I see them. And aside from that, what's wrong with getting some enjoyment out of saying 'ackshally you're wrong' sometimes?
In my other thread you said you agreed with the comment that my name isn't appropriate for a FM forum. I chose it for an FM forum because my experience with SI staff has been that if you point out inconvenient truths about the game mechanics, you get hounded as ruining the game for people and banned for being 'insulting' or 'trolling'. Whereas here seems to be a forum where you can say such truths about the game openly. This is an pseudonymous forum, which lessens the need for decorum than in everyday human interaction, but I recognize that there's still a fellow egotist on the other side of the screen.
What a load of shit😂. Do you think we're five years old?! Exposing the truths about football manager has nothing to do with your username.
Clearly you're desperate to be someone in the community, but all you're mainly doing is regurgitating other people's work. Well done. Bravo. You're a nobody. But at least you've got that username, really sticking it to SI!!
World class is tough.
But a few faves; Gadou(variable pa) Alex Freeman, Saba, Bouaddi, Leon Grgic, Monga, Bergvall, Paz, Yildiz, Yoro, Minteh, Gilberto Mora, Uzun,
Congratulations on the 95!!!
And which attributes would you recommend for the players in each position in this tactic when making transfers?
With this tactic you can go from non league to league winners in straight seasons and probably win the champions league the year after.
You need to replace any players who are slow - acceleration and pace are the most important attributes.
As your stats show, the performance loss would be significant. It's not impossible to maintain ~100% condition, it's quite easy. Another reason is that you will also otherwise suffer exponentially greater injuries, as EBFM found injury rates of:
(starting) 100% condition = 8 in-match injuries
(starting) 80% condition = 20 in-match injuries
(starting) 60% condition = 87 in-match injuries
And those injuries create a vicious cycle of low match fitness & condition leading to more injuries. I would guesstimate injuries double overall if starting at 90-93% condition.
Is that really so? According to EBFM's data, the difference between the most intense and least intense settings were 1-2% condition difference by end of match.
Match sharpness is very important, more important than condition. It's performance impact is greater, and it's harder to maintain. So using rest is usually a bad idea, from my analysis of it.
These results might not be directly comparable, but you say that starting at 88% condition results in 16% worse performance. EBFM found that match sharpness 100% > 90% reduces win rate by 33.3% and injuries increased by ~25%.
I know I come across as a bit of a knob here with all of this, but it's partly that I can't resist knocking down falsehoods, and partly that I wrote a post on here about this very topic recently so I'm a bit of a zealot about it. I know I state a lot of things that turn out to be erroneous myself. This is just part of the process of discovery.
Come across as? Bit?
Yes but the mother of your children is also your sister so
It's certainly different. And I agree with you
There is no option to show my Youth (U19) Team.
They have a different name then, search for that. Which club are you?
as you seem to know a lot about Genie Scout. I have a question.
I hope it's fine I post it here. =)
I want to see my U19 via Genie Scout but don't know how to import it into Genie.
Do you know a workaround for that?
Help would be much appreciated =)
thanks in advance
Asliv
You search by teams, your team and then it's an option there.
And this players personality?
I've been playing with [Quickness]+[Match Practise]+[Recovery]x7+[Attacking]+[Additional Focus Quickness]+[Double Intensity] for a while, but I notice my players get injuries a lot and they don't have the injury icon as a con. I also rotate my players to not let them play while being at risk of getting an injury, although this isn't always unavoidable.
I was wondering if this is normal behaviour and I don't need to worry too much or if I maybe am doing something wrong or missing something. Or am I maybe even using the wrong training schedule?
Are your players all set to automatic intensity? Alternatively just leave the second to last condition on rest as well. You will still see insane growth in speed and ca.
Within the game you can make ALL your games to be played on Wednesday and Saturday and you should absolutely turn this on.
What I can say about their testing is the training they developed is incredible. And I think his testing results are pretty good too. I wondered about the result of say finishing and composure both being 20. Looked interesting to me
this is how I set mine for 1 game a week on Saturday and 2 games on Wednesday and Saturday.
@Rohde9 this is what you want to use and make sure your games are scheduled for wednesday and Saturday only. This is very important.
Which team are you managing? Have you set up the rest and individual training correctly? I have used this training and it is by far the best I've ever used. I have so many players hitting 20 for pace or acceleration. Now they were already fast when I bought them and young, say 14-15 for those attributes, but how quickly they get to 19-20 is amazing.
I believe this training to me the most game-breaking thing out there tbh. Because we all know how powerful speed is. The difference in my teams is phenomenal.