GeorgeFloydOverdosed said: The weights for GK in that thread are completely wrong. For instance, Aerial Reach is 1.8 while Reflexes is 20. In fact Aerial Reach is the most important attribute while reflexes is the least important of the big three, and less important than has always been believed. I didn't comment on this in that thread, because the OP does denote 'For goalkeepers, read the top two or three only.'
HarvestGreen's GK data is also wrong. The problem both these people are having is low sample size leading to invalid results.
Here are the ideal minimum weights I derived from brute force testing:
Of those, Aerial Reach is the least flexible in terms how low you can go and get away with it.
Traits do not seem to effect performance at all for any player.
I can't remember if height itself plays any role, but jumping reach in indeed important, so not just Aerial Reach, and jumping reach is semi-determined by height I think (for starting database players it is, and I reckon they probably coded it for newgens too).
One attribute that matters for GK that I think pretty much everybody would be unaware of, and isn't shown on that image, is technique. Technique actually matters quite a lot for GK. It's useless for outfield players, but important for GK. Expand
IGNORE ALL OF THIS. IT'S ALL WRONG
Reflexes is by far the most important. This clown is an awful tester and a pathological liar.
No. I could win the premier league with a team of 1 CA players that have 1 stamina. And the reason stamina was left at 1 was because I found increasing it had no statistically significant effect, at least not any greater than 10 or so other attributes.
That does not mean that stamina does nothing, but it demonstrates that stamina is far from essential, even for DL/DR. HarvestGreen's data shows 6 > 18 stamina is +8.1% win rate, which is less than concentration (+8.6%), which was the last attribute I included on my toplist.
It's one thing to posit challenges based on your own intuition, nothing wrong with that. And even arrogance has preservation of dignity as is its virtue. But where is the dignity in insulting me only to piss up into your own face in front of everyone?
I did before. They're somewhere, but I recommend just filtering for some key attributes, say this (for adult player):
pace/acc 12 drib 8 concentration 8 (on DC/DL/DR only) work rate 6
That would filter out most of the complete duds. Expand
Stamina isn't that important guys. Cant believe Bozo the Liar is pissing in his own face!!!
This new file is a lot like mine LOL! Except dribbling is severely underrated this time and obviously stamina is too high. Other things as well but its definitely moved to look like mine. hahaha. Mine is nowhere near perfect, I threw it together in no time. This clown has spent a lifetime going round in circles to end up not far from my ratings, whilst continually saying mine are shit. I like comedy and this is top comedy.
Why have you still used negative values and scored the hidden attributes in Genie Scout? Is it so you can say GS is bugged when people say your file isn't correct?
Also funny now that you have weighted all outfield to 120, after I asked why you didn't use it. Thats too high btw, newgens will go over 100 in some positions. You dont understand the game or GS or probably this new one you're using either.
Centre backs dont need high stamina. Just look how much condition they have left at the end of a game starting from peak. Concentration isn't for any forward position! You can literally set it to 1 if speed, anticipation, balance and some others are high.
Yarema said: Way to misrepresent the data. Why don't you add the steps from 10-15 and 15-20 as well? Oh right, because they are quite similar as 1-6 Expand
This is a clear pattern of behaviour from Bozo. He lies, lies about what other people have said, misrepresents data and what people have said also. He is untrustworthy and dishonest.
GeorgeFloydOverdosed said: As for Mbappe, it's true I underestimated him a little as ST. I had him as 12th; in the latest best fit to the objective results I'm working on, he's currently 6th. The difference between us is not that I don't make mistakes and you do, but that I correct my mistakes, while you continue to insist that Mbappe is equal to Haaland even when reality shows otherwise time and time again.
And no, I'm not going to remove the results of your file from my list, so stop DM'ing me about it. Expand
You're talking about one attribute? We had all read his work rate tests. You're pathetic hahaha. The table shows big increases still from 15 to 20 for speed and dribbling lol.
You had Mbappe around 20th not 12th. Another lie. I posted the picture. So you lied about GS being bugged.
Why are you still lying to say I have Mbappe equal to Haaland? Where do I insist he is? You just make things worse and worse. No one is taking you seriously now. You cant keep lying and lying about what people said when you have zero evidence to support it? I have evidenced my statements about your GS ratings and your lies. Where is any of your evidence? I have repeatedly stated on this forum that Haaland is the best player by miles in FM24. In your first "tests" you didn't even have him as the best player haha.
Is this a joke about me DMing you? Its hard to know with you? You're so childish you might be serious I dont know?
So again as always you have made a false claim. Nowhere has harvest green said attributes are non linear.
Ok so yes as expected you have continued to lie about GS. When you released premier league 1 you had Mbappe as the 20th best striker. There were no bugs. Your ratings said he was the 20th best. You aren't doing any objective testing. I dont have Mbappe close to Halaand. This was another lie you repeatedly told. You cant use or even read GS properly, why do you continue this feeble attempt with it? Leave it to people who actually understand how it works.
Dybala is rated in the top 50 strikers on my file? If you were to start with Bayern you want Kane to have a great season and then sell him to Saudi. You can easily buy loads better.
Funny you used a clown emoji as obviously thats what I call you. Its like being at school with 5 year olds and they say the same thing as a comeback. Dont you have anything original? You could say im pissing in my own face again or compare me to an intolerable person from third world. They were my favourites. Completely balanced response.
Anyway I've clearly demonstrated you're a liar and you dont know how to use or even read Genie Scout. To clarify you lied to say GS was bugged and thats why Mbappe was rated so lowly and Kante was a better winger than Yamal at his peak. And you lied or couldn't see I had Haaland top rated, when all you have to do is sort one column. Which is worse? The lie or how incompetent you are?
Lets leave this thread and let OP carry out some much better testing than you will ever be able to.
So as I posted in another thread, I've ran some controlled tests of specific players and found they finish in this ranking order (ranked by team position):
Erling Haaland = 1.666 Robert Lewandowski = 2.666 Kylian Mbappe = 3 Daizen Maeda = 3 Harry Kane = 3.5 Dusan Vlahovic = 3.571 Victor Osimhen = 3.833 Lionel Messi = 4 Donyell Malen = 4.666 Robert Glatzel = 6.5 Paulo Dybala = 6.833 Adam Le Fondre = 7.5
6 full season samples each, all relevant competitions on full detail, and this isn't your run-of-the-mill plop Haaland at Arsenal and see how he goes - the rest of the team are all identical non-exceptional players in order to minimize variation while remaining realistic and tested to finish ~5 on average by themselves (we replace the STs with 4 duplicates of the player we want to test)
If you use Falbraav's file which puts the weightings into Genie Scout, it doesn't align with the real results at all:
If we remove the hiddens, which are known to be problematic in GS, not much changes. Lewandowski remains behind Mbappe & Osimhen; Maeda remains near the bottom.
The rankings remain incorrect if we plug Falbraav's GS figures into FM26 scoring system (to rule out GS being the problem):
While I was doing this and looking at OP's table, I realized what could be a big part of the problem. He's using points to measure success rather than team position. Points are very unreliable, because they can be 57 for one season sample and 83 the next - what doesn't change much is the team position, so that team will likely finish 2nd both times even though the point tally is all over the place. You would still get some valid correlations obviously, i.e. no pace/acc = no points at all.
I suggest to the OP if he intends to have another crack at it, to assess by the team position and not the team points.
And another problem with points vs team position could be that it neglects defensive advantages. It could explain why positioning does so terribly, for perhaps better defense favors draws as opposed to victories and losses - but a draw is only worth 1 point; a win 3. We want victories anyway, so this doesn't matter all too much either way. Expand
OP should ignore everything and anything you say. You have changed your testing and therefore the results more times than I've won the trophies in football manager. Any advice or suspect lectures you give should be ignored entirely. You aren't a good tester.
What is funny is that you claimed Mbappe was rated So lowly in your GS file because of bugs in GS. Well you lied. And now you have him third? So that means you don't know what you're doing when creating a GS file. There is no other explanation. But I'm sure you will try to lie your way out of it.
So that was it. Where does he say speed, anticipation, dribbling and jumping reach for example aren't linear. Again we knew a lot of attributes don't matter at all, some don't matter after they reach a certain value. But the high scoring ones do.
I can't work out if you're stupid or if you think we're stupid? Maybe both?
As for being a liar when you released premier league 1 you didn't set any hidden attributes. Therefore genie scout wasn't producing skewed numbers. Yet you repeatedly lied that genie scout was at fault for giving Mbappe such a low score. Again this was a lie it was your appalling ratings. So rather than accept your file had it's faults and major ones at that, you also had slow centre mids as better wingers than fast players with good dribbling, you lied and said it was genie scout skewing the numbers. Therefore you're a liar. It's indisputable. Then you went to lecture others on their testing. Haha
You also lied saying I didn't have Haaland as the highest rated player in my file. He was the top rated player. And you lied before that, again about me, stating I'd said stamina was one of the most important attributes in the match engine. I of course never said that, but you lied saying I had.
Have you always been a liar and do you always lie when you can't face the facts about your failures?
He said it here, about Work Rate. Not sure about the other attributes, but I remember reading that and I've had a filter set at 6+ Work Rate ever since. Anyway, my GS rating puts Work Rate's weight at 25+ across every position, highest for DMs and fullbacks, so yeah. Expand
Well if thats all he said then he didn't say it did he. But no surprise if Bozo is quoting that. He's a liar.
kvasir said: Did you find JR to be the only thing that matters on corners? I had a newgen with 20 JR, 14 STR and something like 3 heading. He scored nowhere near as much as a CB with 17 JR, 17 STR, 15 heading. Anecdotal, sure. And I dropped that save, so I can't tell you if that season was a fluke or the norm. Still, on corners at least, JR doesn't look like the whole story for aerial threat. Expand
Genuinely im not sure. I sort them by jumping reach and then if they tie add together strength and heading and the higher total goes above. But i played retro saves with players who had 20 jumping reach and they could score 50 goals a season.
Nobody thinks your testing is good. No one. Aren't you Man City and you leave the rest of the league as it is? Yesterday you had genie scout default ratings as not that bad. No one can take you seriously.
Where did Harvest Green say attributes aren't linear? I haven't read everything he's contributed so must have missed it.
Again this testing is nonsense. In different years the players and opposition will be different. Its of no use at all unless people want to freeze the game the whole time they play it. You contradict yourself with every next master test and change your view like the wind.
Thousands of people and more have used the fm arena results and made the game too easy. Challenges such as win the champions league in 5+ nations, only taking jobs in div2 or below became incredibly easy.
You had Mbappe outside the top20 strikers and obviously lied to say it was Genie scout's fault. Complete lie as in premier league 1 you hadn't set hidden attributes. You lie a lot. And at the time you boldly declared premier league 1 to be the new gold standard. hahahaha. You do make people laugh a lot.
Please stop making me laugh hahaha. I do have somework to do.
Well I know im very smart and you aren't and you know people call me a visionary and stuff. But what I do is I use BOTH. I know im so clever right? No one else has ever thought to do this. That means I can still include strikers with no jumping reach in fast strikers and strikers who have an overall excellent physical profile can be target strikers. And then I/we can choose which type we want. Sorry if I blew your mind with that.
Well Osimhem is probably above Lewa because his other key attributes are better? I haven't just set jumping reach on its on in the weighting for TS. Again if this is new information for you, then you're welcome.
So to clarify I've ALWAYS had Haaland as the best player in fm24. So you've repeatedly lied and said I haven't. Tbh he should be 10% clear, but I dont like the other positions having such low scores. Thats probably wrong but its just how I used GS.
Anyway always hilarious interacting with you. I fondly remember when you told me I was pissing in my own face for saying stamina is important lol and in almost everything you type out shit is literally coming out of your mouth. Im a huge fan of irony and you are the king of it. I would say dont ever change, but thats me being selfish for entertainment purposes. You should change for the benefit of other people you are constantly misleading over football manager.
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haahah. You lie and misrepresent what I say often. You're a clown.
No Mbappe and Haaland are not rated the same. And when you increase TS to 107, like I said in the post, the gap becomes even bigger. Its 2% and then becomes 4%. They are not rated the same. Is there actually something wrong with you?
AGAIN how can you create a file and use and not see this?? There's a worrying disconnect.
You think genie scout default ratings are better than some rating files produced by people who made files based on reliable testing? hahaha
And your file is, obviously, at the top yet Mbappe in this latest rigorous test comes out 2nd/3rd and you have him as the 20th best striker in your premier league file?? Makes sense I guess
Rather than carrying on with all this testing that apparently keeps getting better and changing your findings, why dont you practise your makeup? I hear the circus is in town soon, and they are always looking for clowns.
Ps I dont have Mbappe and Haaland rated the same. You dont even know how to use and read GS. How can you make a file for it? I love that you lie all the time, it just makes it funnier.
Wigo said: Guys i read all threads about atributes testing ant meta ones... this topic is the most intresting to me and i think i have a question that nobody answers. We found that speed in general is the king, but everytime i start a new save i see that (fm26) first season Harry Kane with speed of turtle is scoring unbelievable amount of goals and is gets player of the year award. So technically is speed is everything how come this happening??? so still plenty theories in my head that maybe for some positions speed is not so overpowered as we all think? Expand
What Yarema said is, obviously, correct. If you play for psg or Bayern they are miles ahead in their leagues. So they will still do well. The rest of the team will carry one or two players easily. Kane will get so many chances he will score loads still. He isn't bad at the start of the game, but if you play long saves then newgens would be miles better.
tam1236 said: I have problem with reading... So they are not linear. Am i right? Or "linear for pretty much all of the attributes"? Expand
You have a problem with your brain, self awareness and lacking knowledge about FM for sure.
No one thinks positioning is linear. It's useless. When we talk about attribute values being linear we know we are talking about the important attributes and the ones that matter. If you think people are talking about positioning or off the ball then yes I'm sorry you have a problem in the brain. It's fairly common with Bozo and his followers. At times it's like you're all the same person. But it's the internet and everywhere is slowly getting dumbed down. I was really shocked how a lot of Reddit for example went downhill, but now I just expect it. You can't stop it. And now it's made it's way to FM arena.
If you want to argue like a child over semantics carry on. You are still amusing and it will give me a laugh. Another thing Bozo and you do is lie. It's all very infantile. Maybe grow up and try to learn some things, rather than tell very knowledgeable people that they're wrong all the time.
It's like we're back at school and the thickest kids are the teachers. Bizarre experience. Even got people saying speed isn't that important now. Absolutely crazy
tam1236 said: Many tests published on FM-Arena showed VERY unlinear effect for some attributes. Expand
Haha you are hilarious. You are often bold in your statements but wrong. Like when you told Zaz a player couldn't improve. It's really funny. That's correct for some. Yarema and all of us knew this.
Some are useless, even negative..
Some you need a little bit
Some you need a decent amount
And some you want as high as possible. Yes upto 20. But you don't need 20 to win. Just that 20 is still better than 18. For example, as I said above, a player with 20 jumping reach will score 30+ in one season. A player with 17-18 probably won't.
treath said: mate in your rating (btw much better than the original post) what you would do to find like a complete forward?
It's not a complain, but i want to find a mixed striker, what your recomendations to edit in rating to find those players? Expand
I class a complete forward as target striker really. The match engine doesnt care about a lot of attributes. You could maybe add vision a little bit. But id still make them strong, good jumping reach, anticipation, balance and work rate. And of course not slow!!
HarvestGreen's GK data is also wrong. The problem both these people are having is low sample size leading to invalid results.
Here are the ideal minimum weights I derived from brute force testing:
Of those, Aerial Reach is the least flexible in terms how low you can go and get away with it.
Traits do not seem to effect performance at all for any player.
I can't remember if height itself plays any role, but jumping reach in indeed important, so not just Aerial Reach, and jumping reach is semi-determined by height I think (for starting database players it is, and I reckon they probably coded it for newgens too).
One attribute that matters for GK that I think pretty much everybody would be unaware of, and isn't shown on that image, is technique. Technique actually matters quite a lot for GK. It's useless for outfield players, but important for GK.
IGNORE ALL OF THIS. IT'S ALL WRONG
Reflexes is by far the most important. This clown is an awful tester and a pathological liar.
No. I could win the premier league with a team of 1 CA players that have 1 stamina. And the reason stamina was left at 1 was because I found increasing it had no statistically significant effect, at least not any greater than 10 or so other attributes.
That does not mean that stamina does nothing, but it demonstrates that stamina is far from essential, even for DL/DR. HarvestGreen's data shows 6 > 18 stamina is +8.1% win rate, which is less than concentration (+8.6%), which was the last attribute I included on my toplist.
It's one thing to posit challenges based on your own intuition, nothing wrong with that. And even arrogance has preservation of dignity as is its virtue. But where is the dignity in insulting me only to piss up into your own face in front of everyone?
I did before. They're somewhere, but I recommend just filtering for some key attributes, say this (for adult player):
pace/acc 12
drib 8
concentration 8 (on DC/DL/DR only)
work rate 6
That would filter out most of the complete duds.
Stamina isn't that important guys. Cant believe Bozo the Liar is pissing in his own face!!!
This new file is a lot like mine LOL! Except dribbling is severely underrated this time and obviously stamina is too high. Other things as well but its definitely moved to look like mine. hahaha. Mine is nowhere near perfect, I threw it together in no time. This clown has spent a lifetime going round in circles to end up not far from my ratings, whilst continually saying mine are shit. I like comedy and this is top comedy.
Why have you still used negative values and scored the hidden attributes in Genie Scout? Is it so you can say GS is bugged when people say your file isn't correct?
Also funny now that you have weighted all outfield to 120, after I asked why you didn't use it. Thats too high btw, newgens will go over 100 in some positions. You dont understand the game or GS or probably this new one you're using either.
Centre backs dont need high stamina. Just look how much condition they have left at the end of a game starting from peak. Concentration isn't for any forward position! You can literally set it to 1 if speed, anticipation, balance and some others are high.
Sort out the keepers, the ratings are SO BAD.
This is a clear pattern of behaviour from Bozo. He lies, lies about what other people have said, misrepresents data and what people have said also. He is untrustworthy and dishonest.
And no, I'm not going to remove the results of your file from my list, so stop DM'ing me about it.
You're talking about one attribute? We had all read his work rate tests. You're pathetic hahaha. The table shows big increases still from 15 to 20 for speed and dribbling lol.
You had Mbappe around 20th not 12th. Another lie. I posted the picture. So you lied about GS being bugged.
Why are you still lying to say I have Mbappe equal to Haaland? Where do I insist he is? You just make things worse and worse. No one is taking you seriously now. You cant keep lying and lying about what people said when you have zero evidence to support it? I have evidenced my statements about your GS ratings and your lies. Where is any of your evidence? I have repeatedly stated on this forum that Haaland is the best player by miles in FM24. In your first "tests" you didn't even have him as the best player haha.
Is this a joke about me DMing you? Its hard to know with you? You're so childish you might be serious I dont know?
Ok so yes as expected you have continued to lie about GS. When you released premier league 1 you had Mbappe as the 20th best striker. There were no bugs. Your ratings said he was the 20th best. You aren't doing any objective testing. I dont have Mbappe close to Halaand. This was another lie you repeatedly told. You cant use or even read GS properly, why do you continue this feeble attempt with it? Leave it to people who actually understand how it works.
Dybala is rated in the top 50 strikers on my file? If you were to start with Bayern you want Kane to have a great season and then sell him to Saudi. You can easily buy loads better.
Funny you used a clown emoji as obviously thats what I call you. Its like being at school with 5 year olds and they say the same thing as a comeback. Dont you have anything original? You could say im pissing in my own face again or compare me to an intolerable person from third world. They were my favourites. Completely balanced response.
Anyway I've clearly demonstrated you're a liar and you dont know how to use or even read Genie Scout. To clarify you lied to say GS was bugged and thats why Mbappe was rated so lowly and Kante was a better winger than Yamal at his peak. And you lied or couldn't see I had Haaland top rated, when all you have to do is sort one column. Which is worse? The lie or how incompetent you are?
Lets leave this thread and let OP carry out some much better testing than you will ever be able to.
So as I posted in another thread, I've ran some controlled tests of specific players and found they finish in this ranking order (ranked by team position):
Erling Haaland = 1.666
Robert Lewandowski = 2.666
Kylian Mbappe = 3
Daizen Maeda = 3
Harry Kane = 3.5
Dusan Vlahovic = 3.571
Victor Osimhen = 3.833
Lionel Messi = 4
Donyell Malen = 4.666
Robert Glatzel = 6.5
Paulo Dybala = 6.833
Adam Le Fondre = 7.5
6 full season samples each, all relevant competitions on full detail, and this isn't your run-of-the-mill plop Haaland at Arsenal and see how he goes - the rest of the team are all identical non-exceptional players in order to minimize variation while remaining realistic and tested to finish ~5 on average by themselves (we replace the STs with 4 duplicates of the player we want to test)
If you use Falbraav's file which puts the weightings into Genie Scout, it doesn't align with the real results at all:
If we remove the hiddens, which are known to be problematic in GS, not much changes. Lewandowski remains behind Mbappe & Osimhen; Maeda remains near the bottom.
The rankings remain incorrect if we plug Falbraav's GS figures into FM26 scoring system (to rule out GS being the problem):
Haaland = 16.8
Mbappe = 16.1
Osimhen = 15.6
Lewandowski = 14.5
Maeda = 14.3
Messi = 14.1
While I was doing this and looking at OP's table, I realized what could be a big part of the problem. He's using points to measure success rather than team position. Points are very unreliable, because they can be 57 for one season sample and 83 the next - what doesn't change much is the team position, so that team will likely finish 2nd both times even though the point tally is all over the place. You would still get some valid correlations obviously, i.e. no pace/acc = no points at all.
I suggest to the OP if he intends to have another crack at it, to assess by the team position and not the team points.
And another problem with points vs team position could be that it neglects defensive advantages. It could explain why positioning does so terribly, for perhaps better defense favors draws as opposed to victories and losses - but a draw is only worth 1 point; a win 3. We want victories anyway, so this doesn't matter all too much either way.
OP should ignore everything and anything you say. You have changed your testing and therefore the results more times than I've won the trophies in football manager. Any advice or suspect lectures you give should be ignored entirely. You aren't a good tester.
What is funny is that you claimed Mbappe was rated So lowly in your GS file because of bugs in GS. Well you lied. And now you have him third? So that means you don't know what you're doing when creating a GS file. There is no other explanation. But I'm sure you will try to lie your way out of it.
So that was it. Where does he say speed, anticipation, dribbling and jumping reach for example aren't linear. Again we knew a lot of attributes don't matter at all, some don't matter after they reach a certain value. But the high scoring ones do.
I can't work out if you're stupid or if you think we're stupid? Maybe both?
As for being a liar when you released premier league 1 you didn't set any hidden attributes. Therefore genie scout wasn't producing skewed numbers. Yet you repeatedly lied that genie scout was at fault for giving Mbappe such a low score. Again this was a lie it was your appalling ratings. So rather than accept your file had it's faults and major ones at that, you also had slow centre mids as better wingers than fast players with good dribbling, you lied and said it was genie scout skewing the numbers. Therefore you're a liar. It's indisputable. Then you went to lecture others on their testing. Haha
You also lied saying I didn't have Haaland as the highest rated player in my file. He was the top rated player. And you lied before that, again about me, stating I'd said stamina was one of the most important attributes in the match engine. I of course never said that, but you lied saying I had.
Have you always been a liar and do you always lie when you can't face the facts about your failures?
He said it here, about Work Rate. Not sure about the other attributes, but I remember reading that and I've had a filter set at 6+ Work Rate ever since. Anyway, my GS rating puts Work Rate's weight at 25+ across every position, highest for DMs and fullbacks, so yeah.
Well if thats all he said then he didn't say it did he. But no surprise if Bozo is quoting that. He's a liar.
Genuinely im not sure. I sort them by jumping reach and then if they tie add together strength and heading and the higher total goes above. But i played retro saves with players who had 20 jumping reach and they could score 50 goals a season.
Where did Harvest Green say attributes aren't linear? I haven't read everything he's contributed so must have missed it.
Again this testing is nonsense. In different years the players and opposition will be different. Its of no use at all unless people want to freeze the game the whole time they play it. You contradict yourself with every next master test and change your view like the wind.
Thousands of people and more have used the fm arena results and made the game too easy. Challenges such as win the champions league in 5+ nations, only taking jobs in div2 or below became incredibly easy.
You had Mbappe outside the top20 strikers and obviously lied to say it was Genie scout's fault. Complete lie as in premier league 1 you hadn't set hidden attributes. You lie a lot. And at the time you boldly declared premier league 1 to be the new gold standard. hahahaha. You do make people laugh a lot.
*amateur testers may say different.
The screenshot I provided is, you'll agree, the FS ratings you've given.
So do you want me to use the FS or TS rating?
Looking at your TS ratings, you have Osimhem above Lewandowski even though both having 15 jumping reach, so more of the same 💩 either way.
Please stop making me laugh hahaha. I do have somework to do.
Well I know im very smart and you aren't and you know people call me a visionary and stuff. But what I do is I use BOTH. I know im so clever right? No one else has ever thought to do this. That means I can still include strikers with no jumping reach in fast strikers and strikers who have an overall excellent physical profile can be target strikers. And then I/we can choose which type we want. Sorry if I blew your mind with that.
Well Osimhem is probably above Lewa because his other key attributes are better? I haven't just set jumping reach on its on in the weighting for TS. Again if this is new information for you, then you're welcome.
So to clarify I've ALWAYS had Haaland as the best player in fm24. So you've repeatedly lied and said I haven't. Tbh he should be 10% clear, but I dont like the other positions having such low scores. Thats probably wrong but its just how I used GS.
Anyway always hilarious interacting with you. I fondly remember when you told me I was pissing in my own face for saying stamina is important lol and in almost everything you type out shit is literally coming out of your mouth. Im a huge fan of irony and you are the king of it. I would say dont ever change, but thats me being selfish for entertainment purposes. You should change for the benefit of other people you are constantly misleading over football manager.
Default database, start of game (England - 3/7/2023)
haahah. You lie and misrepresent what I say often. You're a clown.
No Mbappe and Haaland are not rated the same. And when you increase TS to 107, like I said in the post, the gap becomes even bigger. Its 2% and then becomes 4%. They are not rated the same. Is there actually something wrong with you?
AGAIN how can you create a file and use and not see this?? There's a worrying disconnect.
And your file is, obviously, at the top yet Mbappe in this latest rigorous test comes out 2nd/3rd and you have him as the 20th best striker in your premier league file?? Makes sense I guess
Rather than carrying on with all this testing that apparently keeps getting better and changing your findings, why dont you practise your makeup? I hear the circus is in town soon, and they are always looking for clowns.
Ps I dont have Mbappe and Haaland rated the same. You dont even know how to use and read GS. How can you make a file for it? I love that you lie all the time, it just makes it funnier.
What Yarema said is, obviously, correct. If you play for psg or Bayern they are miles ahead in their leagues. So they will still do well. The rest of the team will carry one or two players easily. Kane will get so many chances he will score loads still. He isn't bad at the start of the game, but if you play long saves then newgens would be miles better.
Beware of false prophets and shoddy testing.
So they are not linear. Am i right? Or "linear for pretty much all of the attributes"?
You have a problem with your brain, self awareness and lacking knowledge about FM for sure.
No one thinks positioning is linear. It's useless. When we talk about attribute values being linear we know we are talking about the important attributes and the ones that matter. If you think people are talking about positioning or off the ball then yes I'm sorry you have a problem in the brain. It's fairly common with Bozo and his followers. At times it's like you're all the same person. But it's the internet and everywhere is slowly getting dumbed down. I was really shocked how a lot of Reddit for example went downhill, but now I just expect it. You can't stop it. And now it's made it's way to FM arena.
If you want to argue like a child over semantics carry on. You are still amusing and it will give me a laugh. Another thing Bozo and you do is lie. It's all very infantile. Maybe grow up and try to learn some things, rather than tell very knowledgeable people that they're wrong all the time.
Haha you are hilarious. You are often bold in your statements but wrong. Like when you told Zaz a player couldn't improve. It's really funny. That's correct for some. Yarema and all of us knew this.
Some are useless, even negative..
Some you need a little bit
Some you need a decent amount
And some you want as high as possible. Yes upto 20. But you don't need 20 to win. Just that 20 is still better than 18. For example, as I said above, a player with 20 jumping reach will score 30+ in one season. A player with 17-18 probably won't.
The difference of someone with 20 jumping reach at corners is pretty big.
It's not a complain, but i want to find a mixed striker, what your recomendations to edit in rating to find those players?
I class a complete forward as target striker really. The match engine doesnt care about a lot of attributes. You could maybe add vision a little bit. But id still make them strong, good jumping reach, anticipation, balance and work rate. And of course not slow!!