I am following it just a few more details would be great. How did you simulate, how did you determine which attributes are important for defenders and attackers.
Ps I will look at your work on the other thread. I'm really interested in both and interested in what are key attributes for keepers.
@Zippo is there a possibility of testing attributes by position? I dont know if it has been done before? I think keepers could be a position this would be extremelyy useful for.
Jess said: I was already trying but thank you for the good teaching. Would lowering the tempo and lowering the defensive line help you get good results in away games? I think it's working to some extent, but I'm curious about your opinion. Expand
You dont need to change the tactics you need faster players.
I will expand. I was Brighton in 2026 and we finished 3rd but 20+ points behind 1st and 2nd. I had Marcos Leonardo and Lucca up front who did very well but we weren't scoring enough. Found a newgen AML with pace+acceleration 17 and bought Endrick who is fast and started the most games as SC. Lucca, ML and a fast wonkerid were my other strikers. We won the league with 98 points the next season. The difference was huge. Ok a lot of my younger players were better too but the difference attacking with the extra pace, Marcos Leonardo and Lucca cant get any faster, was noticable. I didnt change anything to do with tactics and my goals from corners was slightly lower. We conceded around the same amount in the league, but scored 35 more.
Go to squad planner, then comparison and check the physical tab and see where your team is slow. Improve this.
Pip said: Probably a question for another thread but I couldn'f find it. For the corner routines does it matter whether they are inswing or outswinging corners? Thanks Expand
You can get some players who are just excellent at taking corners. The foot doesn't matter, but this can really make a difference and it isn't just based on their corners attribute. For example I have had players with 1-2 lower attribute but are much better
This is kind of too good. You can win leagues and Champions League 2-4 years once being in the top division from any of the four major nations, with good bosman signings and some 1-2 year loan deals.
Delicious said: for me the "tricky-role" is IWB, usually i do train some CBs to play there Expand
Just when I think the ceiling might have been reached for tactics, you make some more haha!
I like centre backs here too as they win the ball back so much. I tend to use those who are DCL and DCR already that don't have the adequate jumping reach for centre back
Laur said: How do you change mentality depending on the opponent? And is there anything else that you change? Expand
Away to the best sides you play. So first season in EPL that would be City and Liverpool and then maybe arsenal, spurs, utd and Chelsea too. This is just an example and it also depends on how good your side is. Away in Europe to sides much better than you
I only have one save going atm and am in 2043. Tenerife has a balance of £345m and when I look at their finances it seems they have been getting grants from the council, which started at around £5m per season but are now £88m and have been over £60m per season for a decade.
Is this happening in anyone else's saves and/or does it happen with other clubs?
Re selling players I've never really cracked the formula. It's better to try to sell them at the start of windows as team have just got their new budgets. If you get an offer that matches your valuation it's easy to think you can get more, but sometimes you should take it. I think you need to look at the player, evaluate what their value is, how much they will feature for you and how well you can use the money you will get from selling them. I've often had a bid of say £24m, rejected it and tried for £30m only to struggle to get offers of £20m. At the same time teams definitely try it on and when they do I tend to reject those offers and then stop offering them out and wait for new teams to become interested and bid. When it gets to the last week or ten days of the window offer them out again if there are no bids.
I prefer cash but don't mind add ons such as 5-10 internationals if they are important player's for their national teams, it doesn't take long to get the cash. Younger players I will always aim for 40-50% of profit from next sale.
When the biggest or richest teams in the game bid I always reject the first one or two offers and then negotiate up from their next bid. You can get huge money from PSG, city, Madrid, Bayern and the club's that get the mega rich tycoons.
Yarema said: It's possible you just hit a scoring slump. That maybe in some other part of the season you'd win 3 of those games 2-0, maybe opponent would win another one 1-0. Or you could have lost 3 of these games but somehow got lucky to draw them. There is so much variance in match results that yes such runs can happen, in fact should happen. Expand
You see some things, but saying "in fact it should happen" is right up there.
The question was specific to the patch. Things change in the game with patches. It's not something I've seen in hundreds of seasons of FM23. Europe and cup games weren't affected at all. Just seemed odd immediately after the update. I know what RNG is
Yarema said: That's heavily assuming the loaded and non-loaded leagues are of same quality, which in most cases are not. The difference may be significant but not huge anyway. There are a lot of other factors I'd look for to choose the right loan before the loaded/not loaded "tiebreaker". Expand
Maybe except losing games is normal, even after five seasons unbeaten, but getting five 0-0's all away out of eight games without one in 11-12 season before seems like an anomaly.
Regarding loaning players out. They buffed devlopment for players loaned out to inactive leagues. And when it was last tested, 2-3 patched back but nothing in the recent patch notes to say its changed, the devlopment was significantly better than loaning out to teams in active leagues.
So for example if you dont have the Swiss, Austrian or Greek leagues active and one of their bigger clubs wants to loan your player this will be better than a team in an active league. Im sure there are some exceptions but this in general is better. I have used this method with the leagues I've mentioned along with Scandanavia and S Korea
In my latest save I haven't had a single 0-0, home or away, before the latest update and Im in 2034. Since the update I've had five 0-0's, all away, in the EPL versus top teams, mid table and a team down the bottom.
Anyone else had this? We average almost four goals a game overall and over two away each game for the last few seasons.
You can get some agents to accept lower offers if you put their fee up. Sometimes I max it, especially with younger players as their fee isn't that much, and save a lot of money by doing that.
Buying players I use the agent discussion and scout report to work out how much they want. The amounts are normally in cash up front, but you can often get the player for a small cash amount and the rest over months. I never include sell on percentage and if they use that as their last demand I just use enquiry again to restart the process.
I am following it just a few more details would be great. How did you simulate, how did you determine which attributes are important for defenders and attackers.
Ps I will look at your work on the other thread. I'm really interested in both and interested in what are key attributes for keepers.
I don't think so. If there are any changes they will be bug fixes.
It will change with patches though?
PS Surely its too easy in its current state?
You dont need to change the tactics you need faster players.
I will expand. I was Brighton in 2026 and we finished 3rd but 20+ points behind 1st and 2nd. I had Marcos Leonardo and Lucca up front who did very well but we weren't scoring enough. Found a newgen AML with pace+acceleration 17 and bought Endrick who is fast and started the most games as SC. Lucca, ML and a fast wonkerid were my other strikers. We won the league with 98 points the next season. The difference was huge. Ok a lot of my younger players were better too but the difference attacking with the extra pace, Marcos Leonardo and Lucca cant get any faster, was noticable. I didnt change anything to do with tactics and my goals from corners was slightly lower. We conceded around the same amount in the league, but scored 35 more.
Go to squad planner, then comparison and check the physical tab and see where your team is slow. Improve this.
You can get some players who are just excellent at taking corners. The foot doesn't matter, but this can really make a difference and it isn't just based on their corners attribute. For example I have had players with 1-2 lower attribute but are much better
Just when I think the ceiling might have been reached for tactics, you make some more haha!
I like centre backs here too as they win the ball back so much. I tend to use those who are DCL and DCR already that don't have the adequate jumping reach for centre back
and playing at home, can I have it as attacking all the time?
Apologies!! Cautious in the hard games and balanced for the rest. I'd go with what others say regarding when to use attacking or very attacking.
Away to the best sides you play. So first season in EPL that would be City and Liverpool and then maybe arsenal, spurs, utd and Chelsea too. This is just an example and it also depends on how good your side is. Away in Europe to sides much better than you
I only have one save going atm and am in 2043. Tenerife has a balance of £345m and when I look at their finances it seems they have been getting grants from the council, which started at around £5m per season but are now £88m and have been over £60m per season for a decade.
Is this happening in anyone else's saves and/or does it happen with other clubs?
I prefer cash but don't mind add ons such as 5-10 internationals if they are important player's for their national teams, it doesn't take long to get the cash. Younger players I will always aim for 40-50% of profit from next sale.
When the biggest or richest teams in the game bid I always reject the first one or two offers and then negotiate up from their next bid. You can get huge money from PSG, city, Madrid, Bayern and the club's that get the mega rich tycoons.
You see some things, but saying "in fact it should happen" is right up there.
What's empirical data ever done for us eh!
So for example if you dont have the Swiss, Austrian or Greek leagues active and one of their bigger clubs wants to loan your player this will be better than a team in an active league. Im sure there are some exceptions but this in general is better. I have used this method with the leagues I've mentioned along with Scandanavia and S Korea
Anyone else had this? We average almost four goals a game overall and over two away each game for the last few seasons.
Buying players I use the agent discussion and scout report to work out how much they want. The amounts are normally in cash up front, but you can often get the player for a small cash amount and the rest over months. I never include sell on percentage and if they use that as their last demand I just use enquiry again to restart the process.