MemorizableUsername
I just want to see a TI / PI that stops my defenders from ball staring when it gets hoofed down the middle and over their heads :D
Were the other set pieces (FKs, Throw-In Defence) set to default ?
Honestly didn't expect this result
Updated Useless tactic following the PI for IW by @Tomaka
Idea behind this is the IWB will fill in the space in the middle when the SVs push further up...

Test Run #1


Test Run #2
Cleaned up TI as per latest 'meta' from everyone's great work here.
Wanted to test out whether a wider or narrower formation on the 5-2-3 works better.
Lets see how this works
Is the left CWB meant to be on Support ?
Continuing with the Heavy Metal football theme :devil:

Atalanta


ManCity
Haaland with 85 goals... FM needs to nerf him
Nope... Doesn't work lol
Wanted to try making some heavy metal football

Test Run #1


Test Run #2
Zippo said: Also note, in FM-Arena testing the difference between "Poatan 451" tactic and "424 Alhamdulillah II 0.8" tactic is "18" points.

But in this test:

In the Round #1 the difference between tactics is "14" points.

In the Round #2 the difference between tactics is "9" points.

In the Round #3 the difference between tactics is "7" points.


The above result means that the stronger/weaker your team comparing with your opponents, the smaller role the tactic plays.

So testing tactics with a team that is much stronger or weaker than other teams in league isn't a good idea because such testing would very ineffective.

Also, the result of this test shows that if you build a "Dream Team" with players like Mbappe, Messi, Neymar and similar best players then the quality of your tactic would become kinda irrelevant :)


Well that explains why PSG / Real Madrid has a really high chance of winning the Champions League on holiday !
Guess I was wrong
Yep... CM role is crap in FM23 as of now... Thanks FM-Arena team !
There appears to be a relationship between 'Team Mentality' and 'Tempo' from the text description, so am curious to test it out

TEST #1 /w Liverpool


TEST #2 /w Liverpool


TEST #3 /w ManCity
Droid said: @MemorizableUsername, adding a league table that shows how many goals the team scored and conceded would be nice.

Done, Thank you !
Running out of ideas with making CM work in FM23... a bit of a pity because there are so many more natural CMs then DMs in the game.

Tried doing :
1) Similar tactic but 2*IF > 2*AF - somehow just did worse (possibly RNG)
2) 1*DM(Def) + 2*CM(Att), which yielded wildly inconsistent results
That's some cool findings ! @Zippo would it be possible to do a similar test without plugging in tactics ? and see how far you need to improve the team stats to win the league ?

Edit : Or maybe test using a similar 4-2-4 tactic that scored 58,56,54 on the testing table to see how much we need to upgrade players to be champions
Hmmm... I wonder because of the pitch coverage would 2*CM function better then 2*DM...
@Delicious have you tested 2*CM instead of 2*DM in a 4-2-3-1 ?
Hi team,

Appreciate your help to test this new tactic 'TheWorld_4-2-3-1'
Idea for it is for one of the SV to have 'Get Further Forward' to support the attacking gap.

Thank you as usual !