Milakus said: That guy's been posting the same sh*t in every thread "I just tried your tactic few games and lost so your tactic is bad, make a new one"
I sure if you have a bit brain in your head then it's should be obvious that a tactic is only about 10% of the success in FM23 and other 90% is the quality of your players, how well do you rotate your team to keep the morale and conditions and the highest possible level.
In FM23 we don't have any exploits and if you want dominate then get the best players in your team and learn how to keep the morale and condition and the highest possible level. Expand
Especially condition, as it was shown to have an even bigger effect in this version.
Thanks! I'm not demotivated, just a bit frustrated with balancing attack and defense. Getting loads of goals is not hard in this engine but adding a good defense to an aggressive tactic isn't so easy. I mean, I can add two DMs, but since people already did that, I prefer to explore other directions. Maybe the best layout is just with two DMs, but it's hard to know. Also, everything can change with the next patch, so I'm not exactly in a hurry.
Tejash said: I test by playing manually not on holiday just lost 6-0 away at man city with arsenal. This result can't be a sign of a top tactic for sure! Expand
I'm trying my best, sorry if my tactics are not good enough this year.
Sane said: Great idea, can we see a fire 2.0 update today or tomorrow? Expand
Sorry, I like to test the tactic properly before posting, instead of just spitting out anything based on a single test. It will probably take more time than that.
Tejash said: @ZaZ How we know if our flank is stronger than others? Expand
If you are lazy to compare player by player (actually just wingbacks and wingers), you can also check the reports from your staff. They usually tell some hints before the match.
Mark said: @ZaZ I would be happy to test. I have set up an environment that appears to be relative stable. All injury proneness and dirtiness set to 1 for all players, consistency and important matches set to 20, all injuries and bans removed prior to starting, morale and fitness etc set to 20, most contracts frozen as all players have 10 year contracts. I have only loaded the game for English Leagues but a couple of European players have come in for major teams. I have run most of the top tactics and the results are very close to proportionally to here. I have the lowest ranked side in each of the 7 English comps ie 314 matches per run, EPL thru VNS. The Training Rest has been set as per your advice, and the tests run on Holiday with must use tactics. The tests run for about 90 minutes but you get 314 match results for the run. I am just running the second Corsair one at the moment.
Please let me know if you want to be my next guinea pig. Expand
Sane said: The current tactic may be updated to version 2.0 to test the results, plz? Expand
I mean, there isn't much to be anxious about this tactic, it will probably be around the same as the top of the table, maybe lower. I would rather have you guys using the best tactic from the table.
I need to keep checking because I'm trying to get something different enough to motivate people to keep testing and tweaking. Right now, the top is kind of stuck between two or three tactics, and the tweaks in between, and I would like to give new options (which is why I'm going for a single DM instead of two).
Markreed84 said: Saw some people complaint the training gets too many injuries. I also found this to be the case, especially with older players.
What I found is that if you add any individual training at all then the player has a high training workload.
My solution to this was either don't use individual training, or, change the rest intensities to how they are in the image attached. This keeps workload at medium even if you add lots of individual training. Expand
You can set it to no pitch or training when under excellent, so they only train when their condition is at the best.
I finally identified what was causing my tactics to perform badly. Now I finally started moving forward again. Going to take a few days to post a new tactic, but results are promising.
saycarramrod said: @ZaZ Have you tried what is effectively this formation but moving both strikers to SS? So basically this in strikerless. I tried it (playing, not simming) for a season and thought it was actually pretty fantastic. DMs were maybe a different role though (DM-Support, possibly). Expand
Thank you for testing!
I sure if you have a bit brain in your head then it's should be obvious that a tactic is only about 10% of the success in FM23 and other 90% is the quality of your players, how well do you rotate your team to keep the morale and conditions and the highest possible level.
In FM23 we don't have any exploits and if you want dominate then get the best players in your team and learn how to keep the morale and condition and the highest possible level.
Especially condition, as it was shown to have an even bigger effect in this version.
I'm trying my best, sorry if my tactics are not good enough this year.
Sorry, I like to test the tactic properly before posting, instead of just spitting out anything based on a single test. It will probably take more time than that.
One of them.
Yes. I will try to get something different from the top tactics, because I don't think it helps much to test what has already been done.
If you are lazy to compare player by player (actually just wingbacks and wingers), you can also check the reports from your staff. They usually tell some hints before the match.
FM-Arena just started testing those things, and I didn't have time to test myself. Anything I say before the tests is just a wild guess.
bo said: Thank you for the update on this fantastic tactic.
Could you please also show the player instructions for us console users, thanks
I can't do right now, but I will try to do it later. If someone can please take the screenshots before, it would be good. =)
Tejash said: @ZaZ Do we use focus play in this tactic on both flanks? Also, individual training remains same like endurance, etc.
You use Focus Play only if your flank is clearly stronger than your opponents. For attributes, check this table.
I didn't promise anything, but I will be releasing something before the weekend.
Please let me know if you want to be my next guinea pig.
I might send after this battery of tests.
I mean, there isn't much to be anxious about this tactic, it will probably be around the same as the top of the table, maybe lower. I would rather have you guys using the best tactic from the table.
I need to keep checking because I'm trying to get something different enough to motivate people to keep testing and tweaking. Right now, the top is kind of stuck between two or three tactics, and the tweaks in between, and I would like to give new options (which is why I'm going for a single DM instead of two).
Since so many good tactics are popping up, I'm not in such a hurry, so I'm taking my time to identify what works and what doesn't.
What I found is that if you add any individual training at all then the player has a high training workload.
My solution to this was either don't use individual training, or, change the rest intensities to how they are in the image attached. This keeps workload at medium even if you add lots of individual training.
You can set it to no pitch or training when under excellent, so they only train when their condition is at the best.
https://fm-base.co.uk/resources/game-breaker-tactic-433-1-2-holiday-all-season-no-transfers-amazing-update.7258/
It's a mix from the best tactic from here and the best from FM-Base. Good result. =)
Didn't have much luck with strikerless yet.