Attacking set pieces are pretty good now with my last improvements, now I'm focusing in defending set pieces before releasing Blue 3.3. Do you wanna test it in advance, @Mark?
Mark said: Here are the set piece test results. I would be looking to either base your routine on Super Korean which is an older @ZaZ routine and change the defensive corners to the updated ZaZ 3.1 routines or just run with ZaZ's latest routine. Seems like not much between them.
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Thank you! I will check those routines and see what makes them work well. Hopefully that will improve Blue even further, so I can go back to focus on tweaking the tactic instead of set pieces.
Farinhoto said: So in short, after so many versions of the blue, ZaZ which formation do you recommend, which is the most consistent? Blue 3.2, Blue 3.2 AW or ZaZ - Blue DM (Double Tweaked)?? Expand
Follow the score in FM-Arena table. The test exists exactly so people don't give biased opinion based on personal feelings.
Rowsdower said: Is it advisable to make a very defensive tactic vs stronger teams or will it be better to just focus on one tactic? Expand
Luckily there are some tweaks of this tactic with very good defense and almost the same formation. Just check the table and sort for least goals conceded.
BiTeL33T said: hi @ZaZ quick question, do u know if position rating can be improved? like from light green to dark green? or should i buy a player already accomplished in said position? Expand
Position rating can be improved by training and playing in that position, and it's affected by a hidden attribute called versatility. The difference between accomplished and natural isn't so big, so you don't need to worry past that point. However, there's a bigger impact in performance when using a player less than accomplished.
ta2199 said: @ZaZ In your opinion, which positions is the most important ? I have like 500M+ and dont know what to do with all the money xD Expand
Can't you just buy multiple positions with all that money?
If it was me, I would prioritize front players, because this tactic generates lots of chances. One AF, SS and wingers. That doesn't mean other positions are any less important.
Ellie said: Hi ZaZ! Congrats on topping the table! I haven't used any tactics from here before but I've been keeping an eye on the table for a few months since I learned about this site. Had a question, Do you think the Important Attributes would remain the same from ykykyk05251's study? I know a lot has changed going into 3.2 so I'm not sure what might still be relevant. Expand
Thanks, Ellie! The important attributes are still the same for all positions.
nijak05 said: @ZaZ If changing the wingers to Attack instead of support - would that harm The tactic much? Maybe at home games/ tipped to win and then keep them on support for neutral/away games Expand
Yes, it would. Support duty is better than attack for this tactic, possibly because you already have three main threats in the front with both AF and SS.
Ucan said: Okay i got it , after updated its same. Thank you Zaz Expand
Sorry, I should have just said that. I just get so many messages of people asking stuff here and on private that sometimes I get into auto mode.
Thanks for a great and well explained tactic. But vs Big teams (man city, liverpool etc) I'm really struggling to not concede 3-4 goals. I'm playing as Petersborough and last season I ended up in 5th place in premier division. Expand
The tactic isn't invincible. You are expected to overachieve, but you should still struggle against teams much bigger than yours. Keep improving your squad and eventually you will start having an easy time against those teams.
Gracolas said: Hi guys, i know that CM Mezzala is not in this tactic, but i use it on my own tactic - would you recommend the same attributes as a DM in this table? if not, what would you consider to be the top 5 attributes? Expand
Hard to know, anything I say would be just a guess. Maybe you can check here instead.
cadoni said: Where is Teamwork and other positions? Expand
Kalongtongan said: hi, i'm new to this forum and my english is not good, can anyone tell me or is there a guide for how to test my tactics on this site ? Expand
Create a new thread, add a picture of tactic screen and picture of results (league table).
ta2199 said: Yeah I know, the only difference is the set pieces and the "Force opponent outside" TI (*). I think it will be a little bit better than the previous Asymmetric but not that much. Because the only difference between the Blue DM and Blue 3.2 is (*) and the tactic score increase about 2 points. So basically with all the changes of 3.2 and the same Asymmetric formation I think the tweak will score about 64 to maybe 65. I think people just want to know if It's better than Blue 3.2 or not xD. Expand
The main difference that caused Blue 3.2 to increase score was the throw in routine, not the Force Opposition Outside. Previous routine was harming the tactic.
Could you make a 4-2-3-1 from Blue 3.2 AW? For example: shifting AF to DM position as RPM. Would it work? Congratulations on the work and thanks for the always good tactics. Cheers! Expand
P.S.: To answer your question, the tweak you propose would be worse than original Blue 3.2 AW. It would still get 5.8+, but I can't say if it would reach the 6.0 mark or higher than that. You can always create a new thread asking them to test it here.
I saw it in some set pieces, like the one from "only my railgun". Maybe it's a skin that allows that?
Also, what are super korean set pieces? I checked the tactic you tested (only my railgun 2022) and it's the same as Blue DM.
I don't get what you mean. What tier 8?
Thank you! I will check those routines and see what makes them work well. Hopefully that will improve Blue even further, so I can go back to focus on tweaking the tactic instead of set pieces.
Follow the score in FM-Arena table. The test exists exactly so people don't give biased opinion based on personal feelings.
Luckily there are some tweaks of this tactic with very good defense and almost the same formation. Just check the table and sort for least goals conceded.
Position rating can be improved by training and playing in that position, and it's affected by a hidden attribute called versatility. The difference between accomplished and natural isn't so big, so you don't need to worry past that point. However, there's a bigger impact in performance when using a player less than accomplished.
ta2199 said: @ZaZ In your opinion, which positions is the most important ? I have like 500M+ and dont know what to do with all the money xD
Can't you just buy multiple positions with all that money?
If it was me, I would prioritize front players, because this tactic generates lots of chances. One AF, SS and wingers. That doesn't mean other positions are any less important.
Thanks, Ellie! The important attributes are still the same for all positions.
If changing the wingers to Attack instead of support - would that harm
The tactic much? Maybe at home games/ tipped to win and then keep them on support for neutral/away games
Yes, it would. Support duty is better than attack for this tactic, possibly because you already have three main threats in the front with both AF and SS.
Ucan said: Okay i got it , after updated its same. Thank you Zaz
Sorry, I should have just said that. I just get so many messages of people asking stuff here and on private that sometimes I get into auto mode.
Thanks for testing!
Ucan said: what about forward's preferred foot? is it still same foot as side?
Read "Preferred Foot" at first post.
Rowsdower said: Hello,
Thanks for a great and well explained tactic. But vs Big teams (man city, liverpool etc) I'm really struggling to not concede 3-4 goals. I'm playing as Petersborough and last season I ended up in 5th place in premier division.
The tactic isn't invincible. You are expected to overachieve, but you should still struggle against teams much bigger than yours. Keep improving your squad and eventually you will start having an easy time against those teams.
Hard to know, anything I say would be just a guess. Maybe you can check here instead.
cadoni said: Where is Teamwork and other positions?
It's the second leadership.
Create a new thread, add a picture of tactic screen and picture of results (league table).
Because the only difference between the Blue DM and Blue 3.2 is (*) and the tactic score increase about 2 points. So basically with all the changes of 3.2 and the same Asymmetric formation I think the tweak will score about 64 to maybe 65.
I think people just want to know if It's better than Blue 3.2 or not xD.
The main difference that caused Blue 3.2 to increase score was the throw in routine, not the Force Opposition Outside. Previous routine was harming the tactic.
Could you make a 4-2-3-1 from Blue 3.2 AW? For example: shifting AF to DM position as RPM. Would it work? Congratulations on the work and thanks for the always good tactics. Cheers!
There are already good tactics in this shape. For example: https://fm-arena.com/tactic/2490-martin-snoop-4231/
P.S.: To answer your question, the tweak you propose would be worse than original Blue 3.2 AW. It would still get 5.8+, but I can't say if it would reach the 6.0 mark or higher than that. You can always create a new thread asking them to test it here.