Just done another tests with some tweaks to the system, I ran it with both West Ham and Everton with no transfers in the first season. Won the title with West Ham on 91 points and finished 4th with Everton on 72. Pretty decent results I would say.
It's a similar base to my previous 4-3-3 attempts but with some player instructions added. After speaking with delicious I figured I should add stay wide to the wingers and ask the wing backs to tuck in narrower.
I would love to see how this tactic ranks with the FM Arena test, I'm hoping it my finally be my passage into the excellent bracket, but we'll see.
Just a quick update with a few tweaks to my Saints as Devils system, trying to utilise IF instead of IW and making the defensive midfielder have a defend role just to try and sure things up from the last test.
Tested with Everton with no transfers in the first season and finished third with 72 points, which is my best test result yet, so looking forward to seeing how it works in the FMArena test.
Zippo said: Yes, I've checked it and the last 5 tactics were bugged due to an error on the testing server. They will be re-tested.
Don't worry, we log and keep gave saves of every test result and they are being monitored so if there's something wrong then it'll be known soon or later. Also, we can provide game saves of every test if it's needed(as I said we keep them).
EDIT: This tactic has been re-tested and the current result is valid. Expand
Thanks! Yes I've seen the re-test of my upload and the score has gone up dramatically, thank you for sorting this out for us mate.
Again with the advice from delicious, I've made a few role tweaks and instructions to my Saints system. I've wanted a quick turnaround with the testing so I've been using first season West Ham with my assistant picking the best XI at the start of pre-season and nothing from there. Injuries etc I have not checked for as I've holidayed the season.
I feel that the tactic getting West Ham into the top 4 with 21 wins as well as winning the Conference League is a mighty achievement for a system with no transfers or human input. I would like to test this with my real Southampton save later on, but wanted to see how it did on the FMArena table before I did so.
There was also a number of heavy wins against good teams which is a sign you have an OP tactic. 11-0 against Zagreb, 6-1 away to Villa. Put three past Man United in both league games. Beat Spurs 4-0. Really eager to see how this plays on the test as I feel it's my best one yet.
Just looking for a way to pre-test my tactics before submitting them here, saves me having to play through a full season manually for what is a couple of tweaks.
Do you guys know of anyway I can do this simply and with reasonably reliable results. How can I set up the game, should I just holiday a season in my main save and create a new file? I downloaded the test save here but it's at the end of the season and I don't know if the settings carry over to the next campaign.
I've just finished another season and have taken my tactic to the lab again in the search of the elusive excellent rating on FMArena's testing table. I even sought the help of 'delicious' the member on here to try and help me out with some tips.
It's the same 4-3-3 shape but with a little reduction on the instructions when in possession, not necessarily rolling the ball out to a specific defender, and looking to score more goals on the counter attack rather than after long periods of play.
I don't actually like it as much as my previous attempt, but I want to see if I can finally crack the code on the test.
If you're winning I would say to praise your players when the lead goes to two goals in a match and berate when you go 2 down.
I've managed to win the sextuple again and rack up 104 points and 125 league goals. This setup is magic for your centre forwards as I replaced Wilden this summer with Wachter and didn't lose an ounce of production.
Looking forward to seeing the results and if you have any tips or questions, feel free to post or message me.
Honestly, with red cards it depends on the position. If it's one of the full backs I just sacrifice the DM and play them in the vacated position. Usually though I just leave the gap and inshallah.
I have uploaded a number of my tactics in recent weeks and have been striving to get an excellent rating, was a couple of points shy with 2036's effort, yet after some tinkering and role changes I believe I may have found the combination to get me there.
It's the same 4-3-3 shape as I've been using since day one, however I've upped the attacking roles to try and dominate teams more. I realise my own results are skewed due to the fact my Southampton team is gamebreaking, I have like 6 of the best players in the world in my XI. Regardless, you can always test a tactic this way, if it outperforms everything you've had before, surely it's an improvement.
In the 2037 season I was able to net 150 Premier League goals and go unbeaten with 112 points out of a possible 114, but the tactic isn't defensively secure enough for that unless you've got a super team, at least I don't think it is.
I think defensively you will struggle if playing with a poor team, but if you've got quick players, you should be fine. My only advice would be to use touchline shouts, berate when you go a goal down, encourage if its level and praise when you go two goals ahead.
Turning the two central defenders into ball playing defenders has allowed me to keep possession better and improvement my passing efficiency.
Would love to see how this one does in the tests, and please anyone who uses it feel free to let me know your results and advice
Okay, this test is much more positives finally getting up there in points. Will try a few tweaks in the lab for next season and then upload that to see if I can get nearer the top, although I realise its hard with 4-3-3. Thanks for whoever is taking the time to do the tests, it's really very much appreciated.
vitoco said: So you changed ur squad completely then? Expand
No my squad is pretty much the same, it is perfect. So of course the tactic is going to work better than in the test. I'm trying to develop it in a way it will work for others or if i move to a new club
I have been aware my previous two versions of this system haven't necessarily been treated kindly by the tactic table! I have thus been back to the lab for a third time, looking to try and finally find something that will rank positively.
I've gone back to the balanced approach and it has resulted in conceding just 13 PL goals all season, I have also changed how I try and build from the back, utilising quick rolls to the full backs and then passing inside via the half back and CM (S)
If you're struggling against a team that is better than you, you can turn the passing length up to long, although if you have a good enough team this shouldn't be necessary.
The system keeps possession, especially at home, utilizing crosses into the lone advanced forward. Ideally he isn't 5ft 5in, but it's not a necessity.
keithb said: I use the same schedules for all squads. However I put my better U18's in the first team squad set to available for u18's for 90 mins. Evidence based football manager's tests shows this is best for development. Training with the first squad and still playing for the u18's. Expand
Don't they miss training sessions traveling for multiple matches doing this??
Pumpkin said: Personally I only do for teams like U18 or U16 as thats when training is most important in development and worth the slight increase un likelihood of injury Expand
Just to clarify, you mean you use double intensity for the u-18 squad?
Having seen the pasting my previous tactic received in the FM Arena test, I have been back to the lab and changed some things and believe I had stumbled upon a much more potent version of my previous system.
It gets rid of the balanced approach which limited midfield support in attack, and I've always changed the BWM role and made it a CM on support. I've seen my striker get more goals as a result, turning into the Haaland alternative I always wanted.
If you're struggling against a team that is better than you, you can turn the passing length and tempo up to the second highest setting to the right on both sliders.
The system keeps possession, especially at home, utilizing crosses into the lone advanced forward. Ideally he isn't 5ft 5in, but it's not a necessity.
It's a similar base to my previous 4-3-3 attempts but with some player instructions added. After speaking with delicious I figured I should add stay wide to the wingers and ask the wing backs to tuck in narrower.
I would love to see how this tactic ranks with the FM Arena test, I'm hoping it my finally be my passage into the excellent bracket, but we'll see.
Tactic Screenshot:
Premier League Table:
Player Stats:
Results:
Just a quick update with a few tweaks to my Saints as Devils system, trying to utilise IF instead of IW and making the defensive midfielder have a defend role just to try and sure things up from the last test.
Tested with Everton with no transfers in the first season and finished third with 72 points, which is my best test result yet, so looking forward to seeing how it works in the FMArena test.
Tactic Screenshot:
Player Stats:
Premier League Table:
Results:
Don't worry, we log and keep gave saves of every test result and they are being monitored so if there's something wrong then it'll be known soon or later. Also, we can provide game saves of every test if it's needed(as I said we keep them).
EDIT: This tactic has been re-tested and the current result is valid.
Thanks! Yes I've seen the re-test of my upload and the score has gone up dramatically, thank you for sorting this out for us mate.
I thought this, my latest tactic got a low score that doesn't make sense based on results
Again with the advice from delicious, I've made a few role tweaks and instructions to my Saints system. I've wanted a quick turnaround with the testing so I've been using first season West Ham with my assistant picking the best XI at the start of pre-season and nothing from there. Injuries etc I have not checked for as I've holidayed the season.
I feel that the tactic getting West Ham into the top 4 with 21 wins as well as winning the Conference League is a mighty achievement for a system with no transfers or human input. I would like to test this with my real Southampton save later on, but wanted to see how it did on the FMArena table before I did so.
There was also a number of heavy wins against good teams which is a sign you have an OP tactic. 11-0 against Zagreb, 6-1 away to Villa. Put three past Man United in both league games. Beat Spurs 4-0. Really eager to see how this plays on the test as I feel it's my best one yet.
Tactic Screenshot:
Premier League Table:
Player Stats:
Results:
I prefer to hollyday all season because it's fast.
And just follow the site rules... https://fm-arena.com/thread/2733-how-fm-arena-picks-tactics-for-the-testing/
Thanks mate! I'm going to try that with West Ham now.
Just looking for a way to pre-test my tactics before submitting them here, saves me having to play through a full season manually for what is a couple of tweaks.
Do you guys know of anyway I can do this simply and with reasonably reliable results. How can I set up the game, should I just holiday a season in my main save and create a new file? I downloaded the test save here but it's at the end of the season and I don't know if the settings carry over to the next campaign.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you
I've just finished another season and have taken my tactic to the lab again in the search of the elusive excellent rating on FMArena's testing table. I even sought the help of 'delicious' the member on here to try and help me out with some tips.
It's the same 4-3-3 shape but with a little reduction on the instructions when in possession, not necessarily rolling the ball out to a specific defender, and looking to score more goals on the counter attack rather than after long periods of play.
I don't actually like it as much as my previous attempt, but I want to see if I can finally crack the code on the test.
If you're winning I would say to praise your players when the lead goes to two goals in a match and berate when you go 2 down.
I've managed to win the sextuple again and rack up 104 points and 125 league goals. This setup is magic for your centre forwards as I replaced Wilden this summer with Wachter and didn't lose an ounce of production.
Looking forward to seeing the results and if you have any tips or questions, feel free to post or message me.
Tactic Screenshot:
Player Stats:
Premier League Table:
Results:
I have uploaded a number of my tactics in recent weeks and have been striving to get an excellent rating, was a couple of points shy with 2036's effort, yet after some tinkering and role changes I believe I may have found the combination to get me there.
It's the same 4-3-3 shape as I've been using since day one, however I've upped the attacking roles to try and dominate teams more. I realise my own results are skewed due to the fact my Southampton team is gamebreaking, I have like 6 of the best players in the world in my XI. Regardless, you can always test a tactic this way, if it outperforms everything you've had before, surely it's an improvement.
In the 2037 season I was able to net 150 Premier League goals and go unbeaten with 112 points out of a possible 114, but the tactic isn't defensively secure enough for that unless you've got a super team, at least I don't think it is.
I think defensively you will struggle if playing with a poor team, but if you've got quick players, you should be fine. My only advice would be to use touchline shouts, berate when you go a goal down, encourage if its level and praise when you go two goals ahead.
Turning the two central defenders into ball playing defenders has allowed me to keep possession better and improvement my passing efficiency.
Would love to see how this one does in the tests, and please anyone who uses it feel free to let me know your results and advice
Thanks guys!
Tactic Screenshot:
Premier League Table:
Player Stats:
Fixtures:
No my squad is pretty much the same, it is perfect. So of course the tactic is going to work better than in the test. I'm trying to develop it in a way it will work for others or if i move to a new club
I have been aware my previous two versions of this system haven't necessarily been treated kindly by the tactic table! I have thus been back to the lab for a third time, looking to try and finally find something that will rank positively.
I've gone back to the balanced approach and it has resulted in conceding just 13 PL goals all season, I have also changed how I try and build from the back, utilising quick rolls to the full backs and then passing inside via the half back and CM (S)
If you're struggling against a team that is better than you, you can turn the passing length up to long, although if you have a good enough team this shouldn't be necessary.
The system keeps possession, especially at home, utilizing crosses into the lone advanced forward. Ideally he isn't 5ft 5in, but it's not a necessity.
No opposition instructions needed.
Tactic Screenshot:
Premier League Table:
Player Stats:
Fixtures:
Don't they miss training sessions traveling for multiple matches doing this??
Hi, it probably doesn't based on the test results. I'd only advise using it with a very good/quick team
Going to give your schedule a go for my u18 team this season, with the excellent condition players training with double intensity.
Just to clarify, you mean you use double intensity for the u-18 squad?
Having seen the pasting my previous tactic received in the FM Arena test, I have been back to the lab and changed some things and believe I had stumbled upon a much more potent version of my previous system.
It gets rid of the balanced approach which limited midfield support in attack, and I've always changed the BWM role and made it a CM on support. I've seen my striker get more goals as a result, turning into the Haaland alternative I always wanted.
If you're struggling against a team that is better than you, you can turn the passing length and tempo up to the second highest setting to the right on both sliders.
The system keeps possession, especially at home, utilizing crosses into the lone advanced forward. Ideally he isn't 5ft 5in, but it's not a necessity.
No opposition instructions needed.
Tactic Screenshot:
Premier League table:
Player Stats:
Fixtures:
It's not my work, it's the fantastic work of Youtubers.
I'm listening... what's your schedule?