Here is my 4-3-3 tactic that I've been using for the entirety of my Southampton save, tweaking it gradually as my players got better.
The screenshots are from my latest season, the 2033/32 campaign, in which I won every trophy except the FA Cup.
Now some issues with the system are the centre forward doesn't score like Haaland, and I'd love to get some ideas on how to improve that after some of you have tested it or just on viewing the screenshots.
If you're having trouble during a game, you can go into the tactic and change the passing settings to the two second furthest to the left- shorter and lower tempo. This helps keep the ball and takes pressure off your defence.
I've recruited players exclusively using the attribute weight table on this site, so you don't need a specific type of player.
No opposition instructions unless it's Haaland, whilst I usually just use the most positive team talks.
Tactic Screenshot:
Premier League Table:
Player Stats:
Fixtures:
Any advice on this system would be greatly appreciated and I hope it can help some of you.
Yarema said: On the other hand anyone that didn't play in a match is training fully the next day, most other schedules have some recovery or rest the day after for the whole squad not only those that played. Also in fixture congestion it's common practice to give first 11 a couple of days of rest. The settings merely automate this process so I don't have to do it all the time.
Not saying it's necessarily the best, but I like the simplicity of it and how it reduces the amount of things I have to handle or pay attention to. Expand
This makes sense because they gain their best development by playing matches, and that auto rest means trhey will play every game barring injury. I'm going to try running ZAZ schedule with that on my u21 and u18 this season, whilst putting the auto rest on. Not going to touch my first team yet until I'm more confident.
opq said: you won't develop your players by trainings only, it's crucial for them to actually play competitive and resting schedule just helps them to not get overloaded and stay fresh Expand
Yarema said: I think most of the schedules out there do a similar job. My personal preference is the ZaZ concept, saves me time since I don't have to manually rest players in fixture congestion. And there is no dilemma which sessions to skip when you have less slots available in a week because of matches or travel. Expand
I don't fully trust the system ZAZ uses though, where he puts training intensity on none aside from the full green heart. Surely that limits development.
I know Mark and ZAZ did some testing for last year, but it wondered what the general consensus was regarding training schedules this year? I've been running RDF and it seemed to be going well with the seniors but the u23 and u18 I'm not too sure.
What is a good level of CA increase per season and I've noticed that CA rises occur before january and then not a lot afterwards. What are you guys running? Does having every non-gk on quickness training actually have a negative impact?
I'd love to know any really good sessions for CA rising for my u-23 team, which is where my best youth play for a year before a loan.
Chriswin4 said: So, after the season here's a brief update on what I found:
Geiles: 47 app 39 goals 4 assists AVG RAT 7.37 Lee: 43 app 13 goals 7 assists AVG RAT 7.07 Yildirim: 38 app 14 goals 4 assists AVG RAT 7.02 - Sold to Bayer Leverkusen for £90m at the end of the season. Manfredini: 15 app 0 goals O assists AVG RAT 6.75 - Sold to Chelsea for £62m at the end of the season. Expand
Chriswin4 said: Have been using the information on this website to try and get players to outperform what you would expect from the ME using weighted attributes, however I've never quite been able to get it right with my strikers.
I've finally got a selection I like, and I'd like to share my formation with you all and ask which striker do you think will score most in the system?
Thanks everyone! Expand
So, after the season here's a brief update on what I found:
Geiles: 43 app 36 goals Lee: 43 app 13 goals Yildirim: 38 app 14 goals - Sold to Bayer Leverkusen for £90m at the end of the season. Manfredini: 15 app 0 goals - Sold to Chelsea for £62m at the end of the season.
Mark said: I read it as, and calculated it by first summing the total of the attribute weight x attribute value. Then dividing that by the total of the attribute weights giving the attribute weighted average. Then multiply by 20 and subtract 121.
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Okay so by doing your calculation, let's see if I've got this right. For Haaland in my save, I've got his tactical RCA as 199.6. Is this correct or have I gone wrong somewhere?
Thank you, awesome. From reading another translation, I'm guessing I add all the attributes of a player and then times it by 123 to get the tactical real CA?
Mark said: An extract from the machine learning summary about ykykyky (a bit hard to read as I google tranlated it from Chinese):
Usage Significance: 1. Players can get the key attributes of each position according to the above table (this is ykykyky attribute ratings), 100 is the most critical attribute, and 1 is the least critical attribute. So as to guide the selection of players.
2. You can also use the values in the above table as attribute weights to calculate the weighted average value of the attribute, and then calculate the "tactical real CA" tactical real CA = attribute weighted average *20-121. Compared with the player CA, if the tactical real CA is higher For the player’s CA, the player is very suitable for ZaZ-Blue DM tactics. The higher the tactical real CA, the more suitable it is for player selection.
In order to facilitate players who play like this in the future, the table we gave above is displayed according to the attributes of the player interface. Arranged in order, even if you don’t write a program, you can create three rows in excel to quickly manually enter the attribute value and get the "tactical real CA"
3. The guiding significance for training, the attribute is occupied by the CA, in order to cultivate the tactical real CA For the highest player, we can cultivate the most cost-effective attribute. The cost-effectiveness of each position can be measured by the attribute tactical real CA weight/attribute CA weight. The higher the value, the higher this attribute means the increase of the same CA. Will make the player's attribute tactical real CA higher. Expand
That is quite hard, is there a link to the chinese and I'll try and run it through deepl translate. I'm thinking the tactical real CA is the number which best evaluates a player
ZaZ said: If you ask me personally, I would hire Chris Geiles. He is fast, good finisher, young, and his current salary is half of Robbie Lee, so he might come with a cheaper impact in your budget. Expand
Awesome, thank you. I own them all anyway. I was planning to go into the season with Geiles as my ST1
That's interesting, on what basis? I've been working on the weighted attributes from the testing section and the YKYKYKY genie scout ratings. Are there any PI's or traits which make a difference to goalscoring. What do you all think of my tactic?
ZaZ said: Robbie Lee seems like the best choice for immediate results, but Selahattin Yildirim might become better in the future as he is only 19. Expand
Thanks mate, although from what I can see on Genie Scout, Yildirim is actually done developing, I think he's reached his prime.
If you look at the table then you'll see that decreasing Pace by 4 points dropped the score from 53pts to 28pts there are no other attributes capable of making such a huge difference. Expand
Does this not just equate to team performance though with regards to points, not actually how the player will perform individually?
Here is my 4-3-3 tactic that I've been using for the entirety of my Southampton save, tweaking it gradually as my players got better.
The screenshots are from my latest season, the 2033/32 campaign, in which I won every trophy except the FA Cup.
Now some issues with the system are the centre forward doesn't score like Haaland, and I'd love to get some ideas on how to improve that after some of you have tested it or just on viewing the screenshots.
If you're having trouble during a game, you can go into the tactic and change the passing settings to the two second furthest to the left- shorter and lower tempo. This helps keep the ball and takes pressure off your defence.
I've recruited players exclusively using the attribute weight table on this site, so you don't need a specific type of player.
No opposition instructions unless it's Haaland, whilst I usually just use the most positive team talks.
Tactic Screenshot:
Premier League Table:
Player Stats:
Fixtures:
Any advice on this system would be greatly appreciated and I hope it can help some of you.
Not saying it's necessarily the best, but I like the simplicity of it and how it reduces the amount of things I have to handle or pay attention to.
This makes sense because they gain their best development by playing matches, and that auto rest means trhey will play every game barring injury. I'm going to try running ZAZ schedule with that on my u21 and u18 this season, whilst putting the auto rest on. Not going to touch my first team yet until I'm more confident.
and resting schedule just helps them to not get overloaded and stay fresh
Do u-23 games count as competitive
I don't fully trust the system ZAZ uses though, where he puts training intensity on none aside from the full green heart. Surely that limits development.
So you guys use his training schedule from his last video?
Thanks man, I read through that last night, I wasn't sure if it was still up to date though. FM23 might have seen some new developments.
I know Mark and ZAZ did some testing for last year, but it wondered what the general consensus was regarding training schedules this year? I've been running RDF and it seemed to be going well with the seniors but the u23 and u18 I'm not too sure.
What is a good level of CA increase per season and I've noticed that CA rises occur before january and then not a lot afterwards. What are you guys running? Does having every non-gk on quickness training actually have a negative impact?
I'd love to know any really good sessions for CA rising for my u-23 team, which is where my best youth play for a year before a loan.
There you go mate.
Geiles: 47 app 39 goals 4 assists AVG RAT 7.37
Lee: 43 app 13 goals 7 assists AVG RAT 7.07
Yildirim: 38 app 14 goals 4 assists AVG RAT 7.02 - Sold to Bayer Leverkusen for £90m at the end of the season.
Manfredini: 15 app 0 goals O assists AVG RAT 6.75 - Sold to Chelsea for £62m at the end of the season.
I've finally got a selection I like, and I'd like to share my formation with you all and ask which striker do you think will score most in the system?
Thanks everyone!
So, after the season here's a brief update on what I found:
Geiles: 43 app 36 goals
Lee: 43 app 13 goals
Yildirim: 38 app 14 goals - Sold to Bayer Leverkusen for £90m at the end of the season.
Manfredini: 15 app 0 goals - Sold to Chelsea for £62m at the end of the season.
Wonder how I got the wrong number, I'm using him as a base, the best striker on the game who I am competing with, to evaluate players I can get.
Okay so by doing your calculation, let's see if I've got this right. For Haaland in my save, I've got his tactical RCA as 199.6. Is this correct or have I gone wrong somewhere?
Thank you, awesome. From reading another translation, I'm guessing I add all the attributes of a player and then times it by 123 to get the tactical real CA?
Usage Significance:
1. Players can get the key attributes of each position according to the above table (this is ykykyky attribute ratings), 100 is the most critical attribute, and 1 is the least critical attribute. So as to guide the selection of players.
2. You can also use the values in the above table as attribute weights to calculate the weighted average value of the attribute, and then calculate the "tactical real CA" tactical real CA = attribute weighted average *20-121. Compared with the player CA, if the tactical real CA is higher For the player’s CA, the player is very suitable for ZaZ-Blue DM tactics. The higher the tactical real CA, the more suitable it is for player selection.
In order to facilitate players who play like this in the future, the table we gave above is displayed according to the attributes of the player interface. Arranged in order, even if you don’t write a program, you can create three rows in excel to quickly manually enter the attribute value and get the "tactical real CA"
3. The guiding significance for training, the attribute is occupied by the CA, in order to cultivate the tactical real CA For the highest player, we can cultivate the most cost-effective attribute. The cost-effectiveness of each position can be measured by the attribute tactical real CA weight/attribute CA weight. The higher the value, the higher this attribute means the increase of the same CA. Will make the player's attribute tactical real CA higher.
That is quite hard, is there a link to the chinese and I'll try and run it through deepl translate. I'm thinking the tactical real CA is the number which best evaluates a player
How do i work that out
Awesome, thank you. I own them all anyway. I was planning to go into the season with Geiles as my ST1
and my 2nd choice would be Robbie Lee
That's interesting, on what basis? I've been working on the weighted attributes from the testing section and the YKYKYKY genie scout ratings. Are there any PI's or traits which make a difference to goalscoring. What do you all think of my tactic?
Thanks mate, although from what I can see on Genie Scout, Yildirim is actually done developing, I think he's reached his prime.
You can check what difference 4 points Pace can do - https://fm-arena.com/table/18-attribute-testing/
If you look at the table then you'll see that decreasing Pace by 4 points dropped the score from 53pts to 28pts there are no other attributes capable of making such a huge difference.
Does this not just equate to team performance though with regards to points, not actually how the player will perform individually?