TactocTestor said: Thanks, can you test this tactic with attacking mentality? Expand
As i said yesterday, i just wanted to upload first versions with PI tweaks on W and IWB. I made a run with Attacking mentality and it wasn't looking very promising tbh... Anyways, if you want to get it tested soon, just upload it yourself with attacking mentality!
TactocTestor said: ah i see, thanks. Sorry but i got a couple more last questions, hope you can help!
I see a lot of roles have the shorter passing instructions including FBs, W, IF,... should i teach the play short simple pass to these guys/ tries killer balls or just leave it be?
Also the FB and W all have the shorter passing instruction, so is teaching switch balls contrary to their PIs or it could potentially add to their game?
And for the PF, i assume do not move into channel and comes deep to get balls are desirable complementary traits? Expand
In this version no one has PIs about Passing, there’s only Shorter Passing TI in order to reduce lose balls with too long passe. The PF should both come deep to collect ball and move into the channels, the idea is to have IF and PF switching their positions: when the IF cuts inside the PF moves forward, when the PF comes deep in midfield the IF runs behind him looking for space
TactocTestor said: Thank you, for the DM and the volante, i see that DM is not instructed to make risky pass whereas the Volante is. Does this mean that tries killer ball/ switch balls are not necessary/not encouraged for the defensive midfielder?
Also should i teach the stops play or dwells on ball to pressing forward as he's instructed to hold up ball? Expand
About the PF, it's ok. Regarding to Volante/DM, you have to consider that in possession phase DM will be in front of your BPDs, near the IWB, the VOL will be instead just behind your strikers, so DM will have way more space to switch ball away on the other side, instead VOl will make short passes through the lines for W/AF/PF/IF. This was my idea when i created that shape, you will have a 2-2-4-2 in possession phase, just like that: AF - IF W - VOL - PF - FB IWB - DM BPD - BPD With the PF between midfield and attack lines
Should i give my BPD the tries killer ball trait since its suits their tactic instruction Similarly, should i teach my players the switch balls to wide area trait and if so, which position should i teach this trait to? Expand
These are complex questions, cause when you apply a tactic in a career, and you're not just testing it anymore, it's about players' ability, their suitability with roles and playstyle, ecc.. I watched many games of this tactic before uploading it and i'd say that killer balls should be tried more by midfielders than BPDs, also cause if they haven't very good Passing/Vision you could lose many dangerous balls. Switch balls to wide area could be interesting for IWB, W and DM, cause they will search each other and the IF's movement behind defenders. As i said, when it comes to use a tactic in a career there are so many factors to consider, so just take this as a general advice, hope it could help!
TactocTestor said: As in positive will score less compared to attacking? So i am wondering how much goals will attacking score. I am a sucker for high scoring Expand
i could give it a try, unfortunately there’s a limit of 2 tactics - a - day to be tested, so if you want you can just pick Gasp4 v4, which is currently the best one of this serie and apply attacking mentality, or maybe i could upload it but i just wanted to try first some tweaks about W and IWB PIs
Removed TakeMoreRisks from left FB
As i said yesterday, i just wanted to upload first versions with PI tweaks on W and IWB. I made a run with Attacking mentality and it wasn't looking very promising tbh... Anyways, if you want to get it tested soon, just upload it yourself with attacking mentality!
I see a lot of roles have the shorter passing instructions including FBs, W, IF,... should i teach the play short simple pass to these guys/ tries killer balls or just leave it be?
Also the FB and W all have the shorter passing instruction, so is teaching switch balls contrary to their PIs or it could potentially add to their game?
And for the PF, i assume do not move into channel and comes deep to get balls are desirable complementary traits?
In this version no one has PIs about Passing, there’s only Shorter Passing TI in order to reduce lose balls with too long passe. The PF should both come deep to collect ball and move into the channels, the idea is to have IF and PF switching their positions: when the IF cuts inside the PF moves forward, when the PF comes deep in midfield the IF runs behind him looking for space
Also should i teach the stops play or dwells on ball to pressing forward as he's instructed to hold up ball?
About the PF, it's ok. Regarding to Volante/DM, you have to consider that in possession phase DM will be in front of your BPDs, near the IWB, the VOL will be instead just behind your strikers, so DM will have way more space to switch ball away on the other side, instead VOl will make short passes through the lines for W/AF/PF/IF. This was my idea when i created that shape, you will have a 2-2-4-2 in possession phase, just like that:
AF - IF
W - VOL - PF - FB
IWB - DM
BPD - BPD
With the PF between midfield and attack lines
Should i give my BPD the tries killer ball trait since its suits their tactic instruction
Similarly, should i teach my players the switch balls to wide area trait and if so, which position should i teach this trait to?
These are complex questions, cause when you apply a tactic in a career, and you're not just testing it anymore, it's about players' ability, their suitability with roles and playstyle, ecc.. I watched many games of this tactic before uploading it and i'd say that killer balls should be tried more by midfielders than BPDs, also cause if they haven't very good Passing/Vision you could lose many dangerous balls. Switch balls to wide area could be interesting for IWB, W and DM, cause they will search each other and the IF's movement behind defenders.
As i said, when it comes to use a tactic in a career there are so many factors to consider, so just take this as a general advice, hope it could help!
i could give it a try, unfortunately there’s a limit of 2 tactics - a - day to be tested, so if you want you can just pick Gasp4 v4, which is currently the best one of this serie and apply attacking mentality, or maybe i could upload it but i just wanted to try first some tweaks about W and IWB PIs
tested it with positive, it scored less :/
In this Frosinone career i didn’t use neither OIs or set pieces instructions
create a copy of the tactic with marking on WB(L) and WB(R) and switch them according to the opponent shape