CBP87
okay said: Nice tactic, work fine, but i have a generally question about that dm role on support in these tactics. Which stats are important to make the best out of the players? Its really important that i know which players i can scout because i‘m in the year 2038 and the newgens in my safe seems not to fit so well.

I personally look for at least 14 in acceleration, pace, stamina and work rate
Trying to revamp the good ol 41212 Mongoose. However, I struggled with the traditional 41212 shape so decided to go with something a little different instead.

I give you twisted Mongoose.

5 trophy wins incl PL and club world cup, Haaland scored 83 from PF support role







A 4-2-1-3 that encapsulates the double pivot (2 DMs)

4 trophies incl PL







Tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/9025-katana-4231-104p-v3-1/

Changes -
Lower tempo







Tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/9025-katana-4231-104p-v3-1/

Changes -
Removed take more risks, dribble more, run wide with ball and shoot less often from FB







Tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/9279-inverted-katana-4231-p108-v1-0/

Changes-
Removed overlaps
Removed hold up ball on IF (Don't feel this PI is needed if not waiting for overlap)







Tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/9025-katana-4231-104p-v3-1/

Changes-
Added narrow width
FBa changed to IWBa
Removed overlap
Removed sit narrower from IF and added roam from position
Added roam from position and dribble more to AM








https://fm-arena.com/thread/9025-katana-4231-104p-v3-1/ meets https://fm-arena.com/thread/9212-433-equifinality-ii-tweak/ from @A Smile



I have attempted to merge the two tactics together. It's very effective and only lost 3 games in all comps. 5 trophy wins, screenshots only show 4 but it also won club world cup.







I'm intriuged, who is Stacy? and does her mum look like this?
Tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/9042-katana-4231-104p-v3-3/

Changes -
Added narrow width
Removed shoot less often from FBs
Removed get further forward from DM
Added sit narrower and roam from position to IFs







Carl said: Why not create a tactic with Midfielders

Because it doesn't work as effective as a tactic with defensive midfielders, the double pivot is very OP and I have created tactics with central midfielders and the tactics were no way near as effective as tactics with defensive midfielders.

I'm pretty sure you've asked me this question before
Tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/9170-katana-4231-p100-v5-0/

Changes -

VOL attack to VOL support
FB support to FB attack
Take more risks, sit narrower, dribble more and shoot less often added to FB
Dribble more and move into channels added to VOL
Sit narrower removed from IF
Dribble more, roam from position and move into channels added to AM







Tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/9025-katana-4231-104p-v3-1/

Changes-
Tempo to lower
Removed counter
Width changed to fairly narrow







Tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/9025-katana-4231-104p-v3-1/

I'm not saying it won't work for mid/underdog teams but this appears to work better with elite teams. Only 17 conceded in the league

Changes -
Lower tempo
Removed counter







Tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/9125-katana-4231-100p-v3-1-1/

Katana 4231 93p v3.1.5

Changes-
Removed dribble more from DMs
Removed move into channels for AM
Added run wide with ball to FBs







Tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/9025-katana-4231-104p-v3-1/

Changes -

Removed focus down flanks
BPDd to BPDc







Droid said: Nope, we don't capture that information.

But if you're really intrigued that much :) then you can calculate it yourself.

It only requires to calculate PPM(Points Per Match) from the first 3 tests and them multiply by 38 and you'll get the score after 1,200 matches.


Peter78 said: @CBP87  did you see any noticeable difference between mentalities and if so would you recommend starting and staying with Attacking, or varying between Balanced at start and changing depending on how the game is going?

Hey, I would stick with attacking but adjust other aspect of the instructions. For example, difficult  away games, I take off prevent short gk distribution and counter press and that seems to help
Did anyone notice what score it got at 1200 and 2400 matches please? @Zippo @Droid do you guys capture that information anywhere? Just intrigued if there was a point swing
Tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/9184-katana-4231-109p-v3-1-12/

Changes -
Removed take more risks from DM
Added sit narrower to FBs
Removed shoot less often, stay wider, run wide with ball, dribble more and take more risks from FB

Pretty much used the PIs for the FBs from https://fm-arena.com/thread/9100-cosmos-71-p107-4231/ to try and replicate the defensive solidity the tactic showed in testing