As a Bolton fan, the 451 or 433 or 41221 or whatever you want to call is, is close to my heart as this was the formation Big Sam used when we were mixing it up with the likes of Atletico Madrid in Europe.
The roles aren't the same, but I wanted to at least keep the shape . Its took me a while to get this tactic to a place where I was comfortable sharing it with the FM world.
As per with all my tactics, I tested it with Liverpool and Villa. No FMRTE used. Training and Team Selection left to AM.
Liverpool achieved 101 pts and won the quadruple
Villa achieved 74 pts with the 2nd best defence in the league and 5th placed finish
An attacking 532 (strikerless) tactic, tested with Liverpool and won the quadruple. Achieved 104 points in the league. No FMRTE used. Training and team selection left to AM.
tested with Villa, predicted 18th pre season, so overachieved in the end and a cup final. Some belting results along the way too but some bad results too to be honest
Just to show that no FMRTE was used as some big injuries
Created a 41311 based on the superb tactical analysis ZaZ did. For the roles I didnt always go with the top rated as I wanted to try something slightly different.
tested with Liverpool, AM picked team and did training, no editors used
tested with Villa, AM picked team and did training, no editors used
As you may noticed we changed the way people upload thier tactics for the testing and only tactics that were uploaded using the new upload system are considered for the testing. Expand
A variant of the Tarantula Hawk AF CB tactic (https://fm-arena.com/thread/1164-tarantula-hawk-af-cb/), removed counter press and added regroup. Achieved some really good results with Liverpool and Villa. Holiday tested with no FMRTE used and AM doing training and team selection.
107 pts with Liverpool and all but FA Cup won, 52 goals from Salah
5th place finish with Villa and an FA Cup, Watkins with 38 goals
**holiday test, training and team selection left to AM, no FMRTE used**
Had success with this using Villa, Its a 433 but with no midfield or strikers, WBs have get further forward and cross from byline added to ensure they get up the field as much as possible when they have the ball, effectively trying to make the WBs more winger esq
I performed another test with Liverpool, won everything bar the Carabao Cup
Grimlock said: 'Overlap' is a quite useless TI, the only what it does is increasing the fullback mentality about 5%. Most of time it's presence is unnoticeable. It has no effect on the forwards runs. Expand
A solid 4-3-2-1 tactic that produces a lot of goals and concedes very little.
Tested with both Liverpool and Villa, no FMRTE used and team selection and training left to AM. Some screenshots -
Liverpool averaged 102 pts over the 3 tests, averaging 103 scored and just 16 conceded
Villa averaged 79 pts over the 3 tests, averaging 80 goals scored and 39 conceded
I ran the tactic through my own test 6 times, 3 times with Liverpool and 3 with Villa. I capture data from each test and work out an average. Tactic put in to all 3 tactic slots, team selection and training left to AM. No FMRTE used. Analysis -
GK changed from SKs to Gd BPDd changed to CBd WMs changed to Ws CMs changed to CMa
Not much change with the TIs, removed run at defence, be more expressive and added play fairly narrow
Updated SPs, more specifically defensive free kicks and adding more men in the wall
In my own testing, no FMRTE used. I tested this 3 times with Liverpool and Aston Villa. With Liverpool over the 3 tests it averaged over 102 points, scored over 105 goals and conceded 15. It won 11 trophies out of the 15 and the top scorer was averaged at 43 goals. These figures are averages from the 3 tests
With Villa over the 3 tests, it averaged 80 points scored over 74 goals, conceded on average around 34, won 4 out of 15 trophies and the top scorer average was 26
I've ran a quick test this morning for both Liverpool and Villa and the results are below.
Would love to get some feedback on this, I tried many variants and this version consistently gave me the best results
I performed another test this morning using teams that are predicted to relegated. I took 6 leagues, put the tactic in all 3 slots, left training to AM and went on holiday to the end of the season. I think the results speak for themselves.
Cadiz finished 5th, predicted 19th
Benevento finished 11th, predicted 18th
Mainz finished 6th, predicted 17th
Lorient finished 3rd, predicted 20th
Fulham finished 4th, predicted 20th
Sheffield Wednesday finished 19th, predicted 22nd and with a 6 point deduction, otherwise it would have been a 13th place finish.
The roles aren't the same, but I wanted to at least keep the shape . Its took me a while to get this tactic to a place where I was comfortable sharing it with the FM world.
As per with all my tactics, I tested it with Liverpool and Villa. No FMRTE used. Training and Team Selection left to AM.
Liverpool achieved 101 pts and won the quadruple
Villa achieved 74 pts with the 2nd best defence in the league and 5th placed finish
tested with Villa, predicted 18th pre season, so overachieved in the end and a cup final. Some belting results along the way too but some bad results too to be honest
Just to show that no FMRTE was used as some big injuries
Sorry mate, you've lost me there, are you saying to use tighter marking?
tested with Liverpool, AM picked team and did training, no editors used
tested with Villa, AM picked team and did training, no editors used
Holiday test with Villa, 78 pts
Just to show that FMRTE wasnt used
Yes, create a new thread for it, please.
As you may noticed we changed the way people upload thier tactics for the testing and only tactics that were uploaded using the new upload system are considered for the testing.
Thanks pal, I have created a new thread
107 pts with Liverpool and all but FA Cup won, 52 goals from Salah
5th place finish with Villa and an FA Cup, Watkins with 38 goals
Thanks
Had success with this using Villa, Its a 433 but with no midfield or strikers, WBs have get further forward and cross from byline added to ensure they get up the field as much as possible when they have the ball, effectively trying to make the WBs more winger esq
I performed another test with Liverpool, won everything bar the Carabao Cup
what makes you say that?
Tested with both Liverpool and Villa, no FMRTE used and team selection and training left to AM. Some screenshots -
Liverpool averaged 102 pts over the 3 tests, averaging 103 scored and just 16 conceded
Villa averaged 79 pts over the 3 tests, averaging 80 goals scored and 39 conceded
I ran the tactic through my own test 6 times, 3 times with Liverpool and 3 with Villa. I capture data from each test and work out an average. Tactic put in to all 3 tactic slots, team selection and training left to AM. No FMRTE used. Analysis -
Liverpool
Villa
Appreciate any feedback on how to improve this
GK changed from SKs to Gd
BPDd changed to CBd
WMs changed to Ws
CMs changed to CMa
Not much change with the TIs, removed run at defence, be more expressive and added play fairly narrow
Updated SPs, more specifically defensive free kicks and adding more men in the wall
In my own testing, no FMRTE used. I tested this 3 times with Liverpool and Aston Villa. With Liverpool over the 3 tests it averaged over 102 points, scored over 105 goals and conceded 15. It won 11 trophies out of the 15 and the top scorer was averaged at 43 goals. These figures are averages from the 3 tests
With Villa over the 3 tests, it averaged 80 points scored over 74 goals, conceded on average around 34, won 4 out of 15 trophies and the top scorer average was 26
I've ran a quick test this morning for both Liverpool and Villa and the results are below.
Would love to get some feedback on this, I tried many variants and this version consistently gave me the best results
Cadiz finished 5th, predicted 19th
Benevento finished 11th, predicted 18th
Mainz finished 6th, predicted 17th
Lorient finished 3rd, predicted 20th
Fulham finished 4th, predicted 20th
Sheffield Wednesday finished 19th, predicted 22nd and with a 6 point deduction, otherwise it would have been a 13th place finish.
https://fm-arena.com/tactic/952-comet-v2/
Yeah looks similar to be fair, haven't seen that one before, looks really good though and smashed the test