for last couples of weeks i am spending days and testing best tactics from the table and comparing how is it working... tactics are great teams are overachieving massively all great! But what annoys me is every single test with underdog or top team doesnt matter CD players ratings are below average! DR-DL position as well... if your cd scores from corner ok that game he as 7+ rating, but if not they are mostly like 6.3 - 6.5... ive tried so many combinations and no luck to make CD's consistently get at least 6.8-7.0 ratings... aany one on the same pattern? Expand
Full-backs mainly get their ratings from crosses completed I find, so roles like IWB rarely do well. A lot of a CBs rating is taken from aerial duel win %. If your CBs are on the near post at corners, they won't win that many headers as corners have been nerfed.
crizeKOS said: Idk, we tested alot of stuff now and we have to w8 like 1 week to get something out. This is like punishment hahaha. Im kinda bored about the cosmetic stuff that is on the game I feel disappointed. I dont know if i will keep playing, mostly now coz my new born daughter. Expand
Another update to this specific 4-2-3-1 as I haven't tweaked it in a while. This is Woodball 4-2-3-1 v6.
This is almost identical to the simplified version of this tactic I uploaded last week but I have added tackle harder to all players, although that remains the only addition.
Watford got 104 points in the league which is the highest I have managed so far. Birmingham finished 3rd with 91.
Expected points were healthy although not as impressive as they were before I added tackle harder, but this is probably an RNG related thing
Watford predicted 1st in the Championship and Birmingham are predicted 24th. Man City and Bournemouth tests are more useful but I am a Watford fan so I have a bias for using them more often
Hi all, here is another 4-2-3-1 (a shape that I am determined to get right) but it has changed quite a lot, hence the name change.
It's back again including the theory behind @Delicious shape to see if it is a universal meta or just something that works well with a specific shape.
It did well with Watford and Birmingham, but not as well as it sometimes does.
Slightly underwhelmed by the expected points. My gut feeling is that this tactic won't do well and that these specific instructions work best with two strikers up front, but we'll wait and see.
Overlaps mean that play is slowed down to allow the full-back time to overlap, therefore getting more men forward. If you look at the two tactics, the one with overlaps is better defensively but worse offensively. This is because the attacking play is slowed down, also meaning that the opposition has less time on the ball and so fewer goalscoring opportunities.
Likewise, the tactic without overlaps is better offensively as it attacks with more intensity but is is worse defensively as it takes more risks instead of waiting for the full-backs to catch up. Overall, I think it's just down to personal preference rather than being a meta instruction.
crizeKOS said: Mid focus play seems kinda cosmetic too. Maybe is working with system with alot of players on mid (narrow ones). U guys must change shape for 14222 or 141212 Expand
Yeah I think this formation actually needs the AML and AMR to be traditional wingers but I think that's probably already been done
Delicious said: Don't worry,but both of them work on same way ^^! It was a process from 4231 that made me going here and around in order to gather data. Just check before you wanna post something otherwise Zippo is going to bip bip me most likely... Expand
Interestingly it didn't work too well in testing despite pretty much being the same as the 4-1-3-2. We go again
No clue if i tested that specific one, but if not just remember me when it's being tested so i can remove from it,don't worry is just to note numbers.
Atm this shape is the hardest to make it work,maybe with IW/IWB is going to moon Expand
Haha sorry hadn't clocked that you'd already made a huge thread on this, although this is more similar to the 4-1-3-2 that you've been doing in terms of instructions
Delicious said: Was going to do it,but didn't want to take the "control" of the machine just for me,since i've already a day gap Expand
Yeah I looked through the previous versions of Poirer and saw that you hadn't yet done this specific configuration so I thought I'd save you a bit of time by testing it now
First of all, congratulations to @Delicious for getting the highest rated tactic so far. I have made a couple of changes to it just to see how it would do, but not so many that it's a completely different tactic.
+ Focus play through the middle + Underlaps + IWB(S) instead of WB(S) + Reliable set-pieces
Tested with Man City and Bournemouth and got the best return I have ever seen from both sides
Expected points also reaches the highest that I have ever seen for both sides. Once again, props to @Delicious
Hi all, I am writing in this thread because I have made a slight adjustment to this tactic. I have added a couple of team instructions, but I have removed all player instructions. This is Woodball 4-2-3-1 SIMPLIFIED
Below, you will see that Watford won the Championship with 102 points, while Birmingham missed out on automatic promotion on goal difference. This tactic was a lot better defensively than the others that I have uploaded.
On expected points, Watford got 95 which is the highest I've managed from them thus far. Birmingham got 83 so this does mean that they overperformed theirs by a fair margin.
for last couples of weeks i am spending days and testing best tactics from the table and comparing how is it working... tactics are great teams are overachieving massively all great! But what annoys me is every single test with underdog or top team doesnt matter CD players ratings are below average! DR-DL position as well... if your cd scores from corner ok that game he as 7+ rating, but if not they are mostly like 6.3 - 6.5... ive tried so many combinations and no luck to make CD's consistently get at least 6.8-7.0 ratings... aany one on the same pattern?
Full-backs mainly get their ratings from crosses completed I find, so roles like IWB rarely do well. A lot of a CBs rating is taken from aerial duel win %. If your CBs are on the near post at corners, they won't win that many headers as corners have been nerfed.
Congratulations Mr crizeKOS!
This is almost identical to the simplified version of this tactic I uploaded last week but I have added tackle harder to all players, although that remains the only addition.
Watford got 104 points in the league which is the highest I have managed so far. Birmingham finished 3rd with 91.
Expected points were healthy although not as impressive as they were before I added tackle harder, but this is probably an RNG related thing
Watford predicted 1st in the Championship and Birmingham are predicted 24th. Man City and Bournemouth tests are more useful but I am a Watford fan so I have a bias for using them more often
It's back again including the theory behind @Delicious shape to see if it is a universal meta or just something that works well with a specific shape.
It did well with Watford and Birmingham, but not as well as it sometimes does.
Slightly underwhelmed by the expected points. My gut feeling is that this tactic won't do well and that these specific instructions work best with two strikers up front, but we'll wait and see.
Boris 4-2-3-1 v2: https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/18200/
Boris 4-2-3-1 v3: https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/18271/
Boris 4-2-3-1 v4: https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/18284/
Likewise, the tactic without overlaps is better offensively as it attacks with more intensity but is is worse defensively as it takes more risks instead of waiting for the full-backs to catch up. Overall, I think it's just down to personal preference rather than being a meta instruction.
Yeah I think this formation actually needs the AML and AMR to be traditional wingers but I think that's probably already been done
Just check before you wanna post something otherwise Zippo is going to bip bip me most likely...
Interestingly it didn't work too well in testing despite pretty much being the same as the 4-1-3-2. We go again
No clue if i tested that specific one, but if not just remember me when it's being tested so i can remove from it,don't worry is just to note numbers.
Atm this shape is the hardest to make it work,maybe with IW/IWB is going to moon
Haha sorry hadn't clocked that you'd already made a huge thread on this, although this is more similar to the 4-1-3-2 that you've been doing in terms of instructions
It now uses a 4-1-4-1 shape but keeps all of the important elements of the previous tactic such as focusing down the flanks.
It won the league with PSG (obviously) and came 10th with Ajaccio.
Did well on expected points with Ajaccio massively underperforming their 'justice position'
Yeah I looked through the previous versions of Poirer and saw that you hadn't yet done this specific configuration so I thought I'd save you a bit of time by testing it now
+ Focus play through the middle
+ Underlaps
+ IWB(S) instead of WB(S)
+ Reliable set-pieces
Tested with Man City and Bournemouth and got the best return I have ever seen from both sides
Expected points also reaches the highest that I have ever seen for both sides. Once again, props to @Delicious
Below, you will see that Watford won the Championship with 102 points, while Birmingham missed out on automatic promotion on goal difference. This tactic was a lot better defensively than the others that I have uploaded.
On expected points, Watford got 95 which is the highest I've managed from them thus far. Birmingham got 83 so this does mean that they overperformed theirs by a fair margin.
+ Lower defensive line
+ Distribute quickly
On WBs:
+ Sit wider
On IFs:
+ Sit narrower
Man City were 1 game away from invincibles and Bournemouth finished 7th. Haaland scored 58 league goals
Both teams did well on expected points