ZaZ said: I think the whole point is that set pieces are plug and play, and can most of the times be applied to any conventional tactics. There might be some very good tactics scoring low points because they use weak set pieces, while some tactics can overachieve because of some corner routine. Having tactics and set pieces being tested separated (adding standard set pieces to all tactics in the tactic table) would increase the accuracy of the tests, in my opinion.
However, some tactics might be created to "play for set pieces", but I don't remember any tactic like that ever succeeding in the table. Expand
Couldn't agree more, i am curious how FM-Arena is gonna setup it, so at least we can setup something similar.
TommyToxic said: Is the difference between optimized set pieces and default really that little, with CBs scoring 20+ goals? Expand
Yep, but what we don't understand is, sometimes you literally scam a game with a corner goal, for me 20+ goals is insane and those set routines were just to hide the fact you can't really come up with a good gameplay w/e you do.
Players on this community want to win, no matter what, sometimes even with teams that are supposed to struggle to even to don't fight for relegation.
5 points average on a test league ain't really that "little", it's a quite gap, but still you don't really need the set routine, if you made your team building good enough to carry you out.
sponsorkindest said: @Delicious : I know you must be busy with life and FM 24, but is there plan to do something similar for FM 24 early on or is that something that will happen after all the patches are out like in FM 23. Expand
Most likely i will do something different and more optimizated. Like a Super League
At the very moment seem corners are FM23 like, tested for now near post near post, doing on average 20-28 goals. How @Rince said is really wasting of time on a beta for perfect "set piece".
But literally set pieces were making like 3-5 points average on FM23 if you believe that's too much or the contrary is literally up to you. If you like more "in-real" (still make me smile whenever i do read it) you can simply modify the corner set routine and you are done. But you will notice pretty fast how bad is on FM23 without that "corner set routine".
I really do hope they did implemented more the gameplay and making setpieces more secondary.
it was already tested mate
That tactics is that from FM23 :
However, some tactics might be created to "play for set pieces", but I don't remember any tactic like that ever succeeding in the table.
Couldn't agree more, i am curious how FM-Arena is gonna setup it, so at least we can setup something similar.
it's the old hall of fame 4231 just renamed it in something more delicious.
Yep, but what we don't understand is, sometimes you literally scam a game with a corner goal, for me 20+ goals is insane and those set routines were just to hide the fact you can't really come up with a good gameplay w/e you do.
Players on this community want to win, no matter what, sometimes even with teams that are supposed to struggle to even to don't fight for relegation.
5 points average on a test league ain't really that "little", it's a quite gap, but still you don't really need the set routine, if you made your team building good enough to carry you out.
Most likely i will do something different and more optimizated. Like a Super League
But literally set pieces were making like 3-5 points average on FM23 if you believe that's too much or the contrary is literally up to you. If you like more "in-real" (still make me smile whenever i do read it) you can simply modify the corner set routine and you are done. But you will notice pretty fast how bad is on FM23 without that "corner set routine".
I really do hope they did implemented more the gameplay and making setpieces more secondary.
I will do all those managers for FM24, on FM23 things are pretty strange and can't really do a "recreation".
Last recreation for FM23, since FM24 is coming and seem finally we will have more "in-real" players interaction i will develop more this section.
Give it a try, alot of people reporting good results with it
Geo said: Could you make a video talking about this tactic?
Sorry again i don't even know what to say at this point
Why did you put this tactic in FM22 tactic sharing section?
WCB instead of BPD on right, which idk why it's giving less perfomance on the previous test.