Just ran a test with Fulham, AM in charge of training and team selection. Fulham are predicted to win the league. 2nd best in scoring and best defence with JUST 24 GOALS conceded!!! Won the league with 114 points, 24 points ahead of 2nd placed Bournemouth. Mitrovic top scored with 30 in 32.
In my opinion, this is a very solid 433 that will concede little but still score plenty of goals. I have tested it with Napoli, Valencia, PSG and Spurs. Results below. As always, AM was in charge of team training and team selection. No editors were used.
The tactic
I have used the TIs that I know are very effective, SPs are similar to the ones FM arena posted about the other week. I've only gone with 1 attacking duty, however the PIs on the FBs, CM, Mez and IWs are those of an attacking duty in them roles. Effectively the FBs are IWB on attack duty but by using FBs with the IWB PIs, I just felt the tactic had a little more stability. I haven't added sit narrower on the FBs as I wanted them to stay wider to hopefully reduce the number of goals conceded via crosses
Napoli
I messed up here with the screenshots as I forgot to get the squad screen and analyst report screenshots but as you can see Napoli won the league scoring the most and conceding the least. 94 points achieved and got to the final of the Europa league where we got beat off PSG. I believe Mertens scored 26 goals but I don't know in how many games.
PSG
PSG won 38 out of 38 games in the league, winning the treble overall after narrowly being beaten off Man Utd in the CL semi final. 134 goals scored with only 12 conceded in the league. Mbappe scoring 41 in 56. Messi had 55 goal involvements in 53 games.
Valencia
Valencia won the league with 93 points, scoring 88 goals and conceding just 24 goals. Best in the league in both scoring and conceding. I believe Valencia are predicted 7th. Maxi Gomez top scoring with 37 in 36.
Spurs
Spurs are predicted 5th but managed a top 4 finish and also won the Europa League but I think we all know that Spurs are the greatest on the game and often in saves find themselves in the bottom half of the table, sometimes even relegated. They don't have the biggest squad so to finish 4th on 80 points and win an European competition is a pretty good test in my opinion. Finished 3rd in scoring with 74 and 4th in conceding with 37. Less than a 1 game. Kane top scored with 63 goals in 58.
MrKing said: i have noticed that if you set player instructions before team instructions, then you can set individual close down and other stuff to the position. if you set team instructions first it will restrain the options you can set for players. Expand
team instructions will overwrite player instructions, even if the setting is on before the TI
Plugged this into my Napoli tactic test save and I have to admit, its impressive. 99pts and all cups won. The best outcome thus far and I've ran a lot of top tactics through it
I initially created this for an elite team but decided to test it with Everton and they won the league
Its a 4132, (I took some inspiration from ZaZ - Blue 3.2 AW in terms of shape). The tactic is based on scoring lots of goals, but not necessarily from your 2 strikers as I wanted these to be a nuisance for the opposition and to close down the opp defenders as quickly as possible creating space for the SS to exploit. I also wanted aggressive wingers which would push the opp FBs as far back as possible. Ideally pinning the opp defence in and encouraging them to make a mistake for us to capitalise on.
The main changes to the instructions that differ from my other tactics is that I have gone with distribute to centre and full backs, meaning I could drop playing out of defence. I have also dropped offside trap as I wanted to make sure that we had defenders between our goal their striker , I didn't want to take the risk of stepping up and playing the offside trap when using a higher defensive line. The tactic has more often as the trigger press but each role where possible has close down more often, I did this as the with much more often certain roles have less often pressing and I wanted to increase this especially on the wingers
You will concede goals, it is not a perfect tactic but I believe it to be very effective.
The tactic
Everton I won the league with Everton, it was a holiday test with AM in charge of general training and selection. The tactic fell away towards the end of the season, well last 4 games against, Wolves (draw), Palace (defeat), Man United (defeat) and Everton (defeat). I checked what was going on and for them 4 games, we were without our usual full backs, Mykolenko and Coleman, but I also noticed the AM was playing Alli left wing and Richarlison up front. When I checked the 10 games prior to this little run, it was the opposite way round with Richarlison on the left and Alli playing as the PF and we won 8 of those games drawing the other 2.
Results
I will share further results with other tests I will be running
Ah didn't see that but surely it would make a difference because if you're playing a left footer on the right wing then they will be cutting back to their strongest foot and the same with the other side so essentially playing an inverted winger
Tsubasa said: Why do you want to change the wingers to IW or IF? Expand
To be fair to @mushy366 I can see his point, a lot of teams have right footed left wingers and left footed right wingers. I would probably say changing the left winger to an IW or IF may work as the Mez on attack duty will cover the space left by them but I would try and buy a right footed winger for the other side
Tested with PSG and West Ham, AM in charge of general training and team selection. No editors used.
PSG won everything, remained unbeaten in all comps. Scoring 230 goals in all comps, Icardi top scoring with 44 goals. Ball retention was good achieving 2nd highest possession and pass completion in the league
West Ham finished 3rd in the league, I believe they are predicted 9th. Scoring over 120 goals in all comps
I have created a 424 using Target Forwards on support duty, the idea is for the TFs to drop deep pulling their defender out of position leaving space for the Inside Forwards on attack to exploit. The other roles I've gone with what I know to be solid as well as the TIs. I have also updated the SPs to a recent suggestion from another thread that I posted a tactic on.
I tested with Everton and PSG, AM in charge of general training and team selection. NO EDITORS USED! I would recommend a the target forwards to be strong but to also be good with their feet but expect your Inside Forwards to get the goals for you.
Everton predicted 11th, finished 3rd and won FA cup. Richarlison top scored with 20 goals, Van de Beek with 19 assists.
Competitions
Squad
Stats
PSG predicted 1st, finished 1st, unfortunately lost out in the CL to Bayern. Achieved 109 points in the league, winning the domestic cups.
Results
Results below were done via holiday testing. AM in charge of general training and team selection. NO EDITORS WERE USED
Everton
Bayern
Fulham
In my opinion, this is a very solid 433 that will concede little but still score plenty of goals. I have tested it with Napoli, Valencia, PSG and Spurs. Results below. As always, AM was in charge of team training and team selection. No editors were used.
The tactic
I have used the TIs that I know are very effective, SPs are similar to the ones FM arena posted about the other week. I've only gone with 1 attacking duty, however the PIs on the FBs, CM, Mez and IWs are those of an attacking duty in them roles. Effectively the FBs are IWB on attack duty but by using FBs with the IWB PIs, I just felt the tactic had a little more stability. I haven't added sit narrower on the FBs as I wanted them to stay wider to hopefully reduce the number of goals conceded via crosses
Napoli
I messed up here with the screenshots as I forgot to get the squad screen and analyst report screenshots but as you can see Napoli won the league scoring the most and conceding the least. 94 points achieved and got to the final of the Europa league where we got beat off PSG. I believe Mertens scored 26 goals but I don't know in how many games.
PSG
PSG won 38 out of 38 games in the league, winning the treble overall after narrowly being beaten off Man Utd in the CL semi final. 134 goals scored with only 12 conceded in the league. Mbappe scoring 41 in 56. Messi had 55 goal involvements in 53 games.
Valencia
Valencia won the league with 93 points, scoring 88 goals and conceding just 24 goals. Best in the league in both scoring and conceding. I believe Valencia are predicted 7th. Maxi Gomez top scoring with 37 in 36.
Spurs
Spurs are predicted 5th but managed a top 4 finish and also won the Europa League but I think we all know that Spurs are the greatest on the game and often in saves find themselves in the bottom half of the table, sometimes even relegated. They don't have the biggest squad so to finish 4th on 80 points and win an European competition is a pretty good test in my opinion. Finished 3rd in scoring with 74 and 4th in conceding with 37. Less than a 1 game. Kane top scored with 63 goals in 58.
team instructions will overwrite player instructions, even if the setting is on before the TI
Any screenshots of the tactic?
Yeah I suppose it would help, haha thought I put it on, I've updated the first post
Its a 4132, (I took some inspiration from ZaZ - Blue 3.2 AW in terms of shape). The tactic is based on scoring lots of goals, but not necessarily from your 2 strikers as I wanted these to be a nuisance for the opposition and to close down the opp defenders as quickly as possible creating space for the SS to exploit. I also wanted aggressive wingers which would push the opp FBs as far back as possible.
Ideally pinning the opp defence in and encouraging them to make a mistake for us to capitalise on.
The main changes to the instructions that differ from my other tactics is that I have gone with distribute to centre and full backs, meaning I could drop playing out of defence. I have also dropped offside trap as I wanted to make sure that we had defenders between our goal their striker , I didn't want to take the risk of stepping up and playing the offside trap when using a higher defensive line.
The tactic has more often as the trigger press but each role where possible has close down more often, I did this as the with much more often certain roles have less often pressing and I wanted to increase this especially on the wingers
You will concede goals, it is not a perfect tactic but I believe it to be very effective.
The tactic
Everton
I won the league with Everton, it was a holiday test with AM in charge of general training and selection. The tactic fell away towards the end of the season, well last 4 games against, Wolves (draw), Palace (defeat), Man United (defeat) and Everton (defeat). I checked what was going on and for them 4 games, we were without our usual full backs, Mykolenko and Coleman, but I also noticed the AM was playing Alli left wing and Richarlison up front. When I checked the 10 games prior to this little run, it was the opposite way round with Richarlison on the left and Alli playing as the PF and we won 8 of those games drawing the other 2.
Results
I will share further results with other tests I will be running
I've updated the set pieces and also added this - https://fm-arena.com/thread/2363-fm22-short-throw-in-exploit/
how were the results? did you find you scored more? won more?
https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/11669/
https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/11671/
Ah didn't see that but surely it would make a difference because if you're playing a left footer on the right wing then they will be cutting back to their strongest foot and the same with the other side so essentially playing an inverted winger
To be fair to @mushy366 I can see his point, a lot of teams have right footed left wingers and left footed right wingers. I would probably say changing the left winger to an IW or IF may work as the Mez on attack duty will cover the space left by them but I would try and buy a right footed winger for the other side
Updated El Phenomenon 4132 to El Phenomenon Mez
Changes -
Roles -
AF to TF
Mentality changed to positive
Tested with PSG and West Ham, AM in charge of general training and team selection. No editors used.
PSG won everything, remained unbeaten in all comps. Scoring 230 goals in all comps, Icardi top scoring with 44 goals. Ball retention was good achieving 2nd highest possession and pass completion in the league
West Ham finished 3rd in the league, I believe they are predicted 9th. Scoring over 120 goals in all comps
The other roles I've gone with what I know to be solid as well as the TIs. I have also updated the SPs to a recent suggestion from another thread that I posted a tactic on.
I tested with Everton and PSG, AM in charge of general training and team selection. NO EDITORS USED!
I would recommend a the target forwards to be strong but to also be good with their feet but expect your Inside Forwards to get the goals for you.
Everton predicted 11th, finished 3rd and won FA cup. Richarlison top scored with 20 goals, Van de Beek with 19 assists.
Competitions
Squad
Stats
PSG predicted 1st, finished 1st, unfortunately lost out in the CL to Bayern. Achieved 109 points in the league, winning the domestic cups.
Competitions
Squad
Stats
Won the league with 115 points and only 3 defeats, 2nd highest possession with 56% and a pass completion of 89%