Just added a tweaked version of the tweaked version
Main change is DW role is now WM. Ran a test with 3 teams, Liverpool, PSG and Villa. AM in charge of team selection and training. Goals galore with not much difference in the defence.
Liverpool won the treble 154 goals scored with Salah scoring 67. Some ridiculous results in terms of goals
PSG won a double 174 league goals scored with only 14 conceded (I know, I know its PSG) Mbappe top scored with 69. Check out some of the results!!!
Villa finished 3rd 90 goals scored (best in league) only 38 conceded (4th best) Watkins top scored with 30
pgsonline said: I've been managing in the Croatian top flight for a few years now. I was an underdog, but am now the top rated team there. However, there is no league or cup money and it is hard to attract big names. Therefore doing well in Europe is important.
I've tried many tactics and they are great domestically, but can't cope with the leap to European major clubs. This season, after finishing third in the Champions League group stages, I decided to switch it up. I played with this formation on FM19 and enjoyed it - but I had a big club then, I was unsure how it would cope with a team with less ability.
In all, I played 17 games (to the end of the season). It went unbeaten. I won the domestic cup 5-1 against my biggest rivals. But in the Europa League it surprised me. Took down PSV 7-2 over 2 legs, then Porto 9-2. Final against Atletico Madrid. A team on paper who are way better than us. We won 4-1.
This comes with a caveat that it does seem to offer up chances to your opponent, but we made plenty of good tackles, blocks and saves. The AMC floats in out of games and the wide players still have the urge to run into corners and not get enough good balls in. But, it scores nice goals, plays some nice footy and can clearly push a teams performances. Whether it will cope when it comes to playing Barcelona, Liverpool, Juve etc, I don't know. Whether my players just suited the roles and were starting to hit new levels anyway, perhaps. But it has pushed my team to a new level and added a new spark to the save.
Great stuff - I'm enjoying it. Expand
Thanks for the great feedback, I agree there are some aspects of the tactic that can be improved and it is something I am looking at the moment
GlynnLFC said: I have just this very moment finished the German Super cup, i blitzed Bayern M 5-0!!! 3 goals from the strikers, 2 from the AMC...i better get shopping for some strikers haha! Brill tactic so far, next time im in Bolton i`ll buy you a pint haha. Expand
Zippo said: If you changed something then it isn't a copy and it's something different and it's enough to put your name on the side of it.
My opinion, you played it fair, you said that this tactic isn't entirely yours and it's a tweak. Also, you said what changes you made so people can evaluate the contribution you made. Expand
Ok mate, cheers, are you ok to edit the author please?
Milakus said: But you always can give credits to him in the description of the tactic and also, write up what changes you made.
I said it looks confusing because it looks like he made and posted this tactic but he isn't involved at all.
Honestly, if you check the TIs/Roles in his tactic then you'll see his tactic is heavily based on ZaZ - Blue, the only difference between his tactic and ZaZ - Blue I see is the CM(A) was converted into the 3rd SS and that's all.
Anyway, congrats! Well Done! Expand
Ah, I see what you mean now. To be honest I did think the original looked like ZaZ but couldn't see a reference to it in the original.
It did very well in the testing. 6.7 rating is a very high rating.
But I don't understand why you made kinderjoy to be the author because it's your tactic despite it's a tweak. All that is quite confusing if you ask me. Expand
Thank you,
The tactic fundamentals are his, I only made minor tweaks in my opinion and I'm not one to take credit for someone else's work pal
thepunisher23 said: hello do you know the "FM Lineup Tool" available on fmscout? is it possible to configure it according to the indications of this post? Expand
I don't think you can as the calculations are already pre determined. Maybe worth asking Davy on scout as its his creation
This is a tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/1324-mp/ MP v1. Props to kinderjoy, it is a very good tactic but I just wanted to get more goals out of it. It is also very good defensively.
Changes I made -
Moved the 2 shadow strikers to AFs Removed pass into space Added tackle harder PI to AFs Updated SPs, both attacking and defensive Removed dribble more from the BPDs Removed take more risks from the IWBs
Liverpool result Won the league comfortably by 13 points, Scoring 48 more goals than the next best scoring team. 20 clean sheets in the league with only 29 goals conceded. Quadruple won. Only area to let us down slightly was pass completion, however with a standard passing TI, this tactic isn't designed to be a possession based tactic, it is to get the ball up the field as quickly as possible and this is reflected by the extremely high tempo TI.
I updated the set pieces as I thought I could get more out of corners and I think I achieved that. Scoring 17 goals from corners and conceding only 2.
130 goals scored in the league with Lyle Taylor scoring 44 goals. Conceding 42
110 goals scored in the league, Haaland responsible for 54 of those. 28 conceded
Main change is DW role is now WM. Ran a test with 3 teams, Liverpool, PSG and Villa. AM in charge of team selection and training. Goals galore with not much difference in the defence.
Liverpool won the treble
154 goals scored with Salah scoring 67. Some ridiculous results in terms of goals
PSG won a double
174 league goals scored with only 14 conceded (I know, I know its PSG) Mbappe top scored with 69. Check out some of the results!!!
Villa finished 3rd
90 goals scored (best in league) only 38 conceded (4th best) Watkins top scored with 30
I've tried many tactics and they are great domestically, but can't cope with the leap to European major clubs. This season, after finishing third in the Champions League group stages, I decided to switch it up. I played with this formation on FM19 and enjoyed it - but I had a big club then, I was unsure how it would cope with a team with less ability.
In all, I played 17 games (to the end of the season). It went unbeaten. I won the domestic cup 5-1 against my biggest rivals. But in the Europa League it surprised me. Took down PSV 7-2 over 2 legs, then Porto 9-2. Final against Atletico Madrid. A team on paper who are way better than us. We won 4-1.
This comes with a caveat that it does seem to offer up chances to your opponent, but we made plenty of good tackles, blocks and saves. The AMC floats in out of games and the wide players still have the urge to run into corners and not get enough good balls in. But, it scores nice goals, plays some nice footy and can clearly push a teams performances. Whether it will cope when it comes to playing Barcelona, Liverpool, Juve etc, I don't know. Whether my players just suited the roles and were starting to hit new levels anyway, perhaps. But it has pushed my team to a new level and added a new spark to the save.
Great stuff - I'm enjoying it.
Thanks for the great feedback, I agree there are some aspects of the tactic that can be improved and it is something I am looking at the moment
https://fm-arena.com/thread/1516-hybrid-424-winger-if-by-brommers1992/
Absolutely smashed them
haha Brilliant, pint of whiskey it is
My opinion, you played it fair, you said that this tactic isn't entirely yours and it's a tweak. Also, you said what changes you made so people can evaluate the contribution you made.
Ok mate, cheers, are you ok to edit the author please?
What's your opinion Zippo? Do you think I've done enough to put my name on the side of it?
I said it looks confusing because it looks like he made and posted this tactic but he isn't involved at all.
Honestly, if you check the TIs/Roles in his tactic then you'll see his tactic is heavily based on ZaZ - Blue, the only difference between his tactic and ZaZ - Blue I see is the CM(A) was converted into the 3rd SS and that's all.
Anyway, congrats! Well Done!
Ah, I see what you mean now. To be honest I did think the original looked like ZaZ but couldn't see a reference to it in the original.
I don't think I can change the author now can I?
It did very well in the testing. 6.7 rating is a very high rating.
But I don't understand why you made kinderjoy to be the author because it's your tactic despite it's a tweak. All that is quite confusing if you ask me.
Thank you,
The tactic fundamentals are his, I only made minor tweaks in my opinion and I'm not one to take credit for someone else's work pal
haha don't jinx it
I don't think you can as the calculations are already pre determined. Maybe worth asking Davy on scout as its his creation
This is a tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/1324-mp/ MP v1. Props to kinderjoy, it is a very good tactic but I just wanted to get more goals out of it. It is also very good defensively.
Changes I made -
Moved the 2 shadow strikers to AFs
Removed pass into space
Added tackle harder PI to AFs
Updated SPs, both attacking and defensive
Removed dribble more from the BPDs
Removed take more risks from the IWBs
Liverpool result
Won the league comfortably by 13 points, Scoring 48 more goals than the next best scoring team. 20 clean sheets in the league with only 29 goals conceded. Quadruple won. Only area to let us down slightly was pass completion, however with a standard passing TI, this tactic isn't designed to be a possession based tactic, it is to get the ball up the field as quickly as possible and this is reflected by the extremely high tempo TI.
I updated the set pieces as I thought I could get more out of corners and I think I achieved that. Scoring 17 goals from corners and conceding only 2.
PSG result
Villa Result