CBP87
Hello,

I would like to share a tactic that I've been working on a for a few weeks, tweaking here there and everywhere. I wanted to replicate the Mongoose shape from FM21, a 41212. I feel I'm at a point with it now where I can share the results and tactic with you.



As always I tested with numerous teams, Liverpool, Villa, PSG and Swansea. I leave training and team selection to AM and holiday until the end of the season. 1st transfer window disabled and Director of football was in charge of transfers.

Below are the results from holiday testing.

Villa
Quite a strong season with Villa, predicted 8th but finished 4th resulting in champions league qualification. Danny Ings top scored with 27 goals.


Liverpool
Liverpool predicted 2nd, won the league along with the champions league and Carabao Cup, losing the FA Cup in the final. Mo Salah top scored with 80 goals!! Yes 80!!!


PSG
PSG predicted 1st, finished 1st. Undefeated in the league. Won everything that PSG took part in. Mbappe top scored with 57 goals


Swansea
Swansea are predicted 10th, won the championship, admittedly not as comfortable as I would've wanted but a wins a win. Obafemi top scored with 35 goals
Nikko said: in the previous year it almost did have any impact, at least this year it makes some difference

Judging by these results, It looks like it won't have as big a impact as I thought
Really surprised with this, considering that SI made a big song and dance about the new ME and how important stamina is for pressing tactics
super korean said: tactic


result



striker Recommendation

PF:The type of player who passes quickly to another player rather than aiming for a goal.

AF:goal-goal player

can you test it?


So it's ZaZ Blue from last year with a few tweaks?? no credit to ZaZ, bit naughty
cptdoggo said: I mean, yeah, I just add the prem and small database. I have an i5-10400f with 16gb RAM.

I need to upgrade :D It might be worth then just creating 3 separate test saves, Elite, Mid and then underdog. By the sounds of it you should be whizz through the season and you're then not potentially not taking points off each of your test teams
cptdoggo said: Depends how much time I spend Alt+Tabbed. If I go grab a coffee and play with my cat while game is on the screen, like 15-20 minutes with starting, adding managers etc., if I browse the webs and check regularly more like 30-40.

It takes 15 - 20 minutes including adding managers to run a 3 team test from start to finish?
cptdoggo said: Oh, yeah, that is def true, however I do this mostly because it takes sooo long to simulate a season. I might try doing 3 different leagues, 3 different teams, now that you mentioned this, as it has never occured to me how matches between them might influence the result.

Anyhow, I think V3 is a great underdog tactic, I'm on my 3rd underdog test and it looks very promising. Can't wait for the test :D


That'll take even longer to be honest because the game will be processing more leagues and cup competitions, how long is it taking you to run a 3 team test?
I wouldn't suggest testing 3 teams in the same league as you're potentially taking 12 points away from the end result. Watford could've been sat in 10th on 56 points and Norwich potentially could've been 5th on 74 points and Arsenal could've potentially been 2nd on 86 points. It's just my opinion but I think you are potentially underselling the tactic by testing with 3 teams in the same league
ZaZ said: You would need to convert to FM22 and add set pieces, player instructions and such. Can you load tactics from FM21 directly on FM22?

Yeah, I have loaded many tactics from FM21 onto FM22
ZaZ said: I think they would want at the very least to have all 10 tactics for plug and play, instead of having to convert it themselves.

What do you mean? I wouldn't be amending the tactics, just uploading them onto one thread for them to be tested
If I create a thread, would that count as my allowance of 10 tactics tested??
Morning, great work with smashing out these tactics tests. Is there any scope on perhaps testing the top 10 tactics from last year's game? Thanks
Fantastic write up :thup:
Lapidus said: @CBP87, looks good but why didn't you create a new thread for it in the FM22 tactic sharing section?

It doesn't make sense sharing a FM22 tactic in FM21 sharing tactic section :)


I didn't even see that new section pal, my bookmark takes me straight to the FM21 tactic. I have created a new thread in the FM22 tactic sharing section https://fm-arena.com/thread/1618-mongoose-4132-fm22/#thread-name-anchor

Will delete the post above
Hello,

I've uploaded a new version of Mongoose for FM22. Its a 4132 with the AM moving into CM on attack duty, also reduced the intensity to combat the falling away towards games. I have only tested this with PSG but thus far I haven't lost a game in any competition. I shared this tactic on Tookajobs discord as someone was looking for a solid tactic.

Tooka reviewed it and has done a video on it and although it isn't perfect. It works. See the review video below -



PSG results thus far -



The Tactic -



As always, please share any feedback on where you think this tactic can be improved
Possibly look at reducing the intensity, I've noticed my players are getting tired around 60 minutes and then I start to leak goals
ZaZ said: Gonna wait for a good sale on isthereanydeal, which usually comes a couple of days after release.

P.S.: The site just tells the cheapest source from trusted sites, it's nothing shady.


https://www.shopto.net/en/dwnld65016-football-manager-2022-p1151983/ have a look on there pal £25.00
scalp said: I was more interested in what place the teams with this tactic would occupy, and as it turned out, the loss of points did not prevent them from taking prizes!

Wouldn't it be more of an achievement if he managed to win the league with Arsenal? What about achieving over 100 points with one of the teams?

I'm not knocking the tactic, I'm saying he is underselling it by testing all 3 at the same time