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WestDoorBlowJ said: From my experience, those highest scoring tactics from here (FM arena) usually don't work consistently for weaker teams like Bournemouth or Nottm Forest.

When I see someone says a word "work" regarding tactics in FM then it's a sign that the person has a low understanding about FM.

To properly test different tactics a team must have "Natural" players for every position and these players must have the same attributes, which never possible when you test with real teams, they are always better built for some tactics than other tactics. 

I suggest you to look at this - https://fm-arena.com/thread/3293-what-it-takes-to-dominate-epl-with-bournemouth/
vitoco said: With man city, liverpool, these types of strong teams, honestly i do expect the results with conceding less than 10-20 goals per season, and without any losses at all

Ok, then teach us how to play FM.

Post your tactics when you play with Man City and Liverpool and don't have any losses at all.

But don't forget to back it up with game saves so we could check them and make sure that don't scam save/load or editors.

And until that I suggest you to stop making stupid comments like that.
02Kyrand said: Will this corner routine have the same effect if I swap roles between DCR (Which seems to be primary goalscorer from corners) and STRIKER?

Or will the routine then fail?


If your striker as good as your central defender in the air then it'll work the same
@sponsorkindest, I think Match Plans works only if you play FM Touch version and you use Instant Result and other cases they don't do anything
02Kyrand said: My only gripe is the very unrealistic corner routine, which obviously is a huge exploit. How will the tactic work if I remove the routine? Is corner goals what makes this tactic?

That's a quite funny question. How do you think? :)

If you make the corners to be less effective then the tactic also will become less effective. Seems quite obvious too me.
Grimlock said:

Thanks!
@opq, since the duty of CMs is "Automatic" then when you change the mentality it might also change so on "Caution" it could to "Defend" from "Support", which might have a great impact on the tactic.

Just be careful with that... I don't think it's a good idea having the duties on "Automatic" because it prevents changing the mentality freely.
Juju said: But then tried it with Leeds with the new player database, at it's going hot-cold. Losing to Brentford 5-1, Chelsea 7-3. My entire defense was below average in 70% of the games. Meslier is non-existent, I know that is not the tactic's fault and I know it's not plug-and-play type of tactic. Started second season with 4 pts in 3 games and I was the favorite in 2/3

Hi,

Loot at these threads:

https://fm-arena.com/thread/3293-what-it-takes-to-dominate-epl-with-bournemouth/

https://fm-arena.com/thread/2980-game-changing-player-attributes/

https://fm-arena.com/thread/1076-my-tactic-doesn-t-work-help-me-please/

https://fm-arena.com/thread/3241-adjusting-the-intensity-of-your-tactic-during-matches/
Mark said: Based on Genie Scout ratings, ykykyky has very little between R Lee and C Geiles, with R Lee a fraction of a point in front and the other 2 well back. My own MDW ratings have R Lee in front by 7 points from C Geiles.

ZaZ said: Robbie Lee seems like the best choice for immediate results, but Selahattin Yildirim might become better in the future as he is only 19.


Don't listen them :D  Selahattin Yildirim is the only one who has 18 Pace and that's 3-4 points higher than other players have.

You can check what difference 4 points Pace can do - https://fm-arena.com/table/18-attribute-testing/

If you look at the table then you'll see that decreasing Pace by 4 points dropped the score from 53pts to 28pts there are no other attributes capable of making such a huge difference.
@Chriswin4, I would picked Selahattin Yildirim as the 1st choice

and my 2nd choice would be Robbie Lee
It's just a UI bug.

You can't increase something above its limit.

Those Player Instructions should be cleaned when you put the Team Press at the maximum but they stay as I said it's just a UI bug.
JoaoGabriel said: Can I trade the defender who heads the corner for my striker?

Sure, why not?

But it makes sense only if your striker is better in the air than you defender
Antal said: Bro, do you have tactics for the underdog? Are all the tactics that are at their best here for strong teams?

there are no special designed tactics for underdogs that make them win 100% matches

there are no special designed tactics for favorites that me them win 100% matches



BUT there are good tactics that make you overarching(doing better than your media prediction) with any type of team

AND there are poor tactics that make you underachieve(doing worse than your media prediction) with any type of team

Check this - https://fm-arena.com/thread/3293-what-it-takes-to-dominate-epl-with-bournemouth/
DawidFM said: tested it after 23.3.3 and was 4th after 15 games with Man City. Maybe it needs some updates ?

The latest patches is 23.3.0.
TommyToxic said: I have watched a good part in 2D and can't see that it triggers very often or at all. Tactics with WCBs tend to have WBs, and the WBs never wait for the WCB to underlapp or overlapp, despite not being on attacking mentality. They WCBs still come more forward than a normal CB, but are rarely used to play One-Twos.

And that once again proves that the most descriptions and explanation in the game are vague and useless and the only way to find out how things works is to test it or watch how it works in 3D.
I guess the easiest and simplest way to find out it is watching few matches in 3D :)
Falbravv said: It's exact, but if you start to develop players with the best tactic in equal conditions, so you start with 4 points in front of everyone :angel:

https://fm-arena.com/thread/2713-10-944-matches-tested-fm-rng-measured/

if you don't play with the strongest team in the league and if we take take a standard season of 38 matches then there's like 25 pts RNG so you really won't notice that 4 points difference, it will be overwhelmed with the RNG
Pip said: Wow looks good. If I wanted to sdjust so a stricker was target for corners will that work? If so which Striker to target?

THanks


Just check which central defender stand on the near post and far post and then replace him with your striker.
Floppyaams said: I have a question. So this tactic outscores the previous no.1 by 4 points. and ofc getting points is much harder in these tests than in a normal game. So how does a 4 point difference translate in an actual game.

And ofc, congratulations on regaining top stop!


The result still can go down after it gets 5,760 matches test

I'd say a 4 points difference is nothing, just look at these tests:

https://fm-arena.com/thread/2980-game-changing-player-attributes/

https://fm-arena.com/thread/3293-what-it-takes-to-dominate-epl-with-bournemouth/

As you can see FM is more about having the best attributes than having the best tactic :)