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Hi everyone.

Please tell us what you think about the Plagiarism problem and how we should handle it. Your opinions is very important to us!

Unfortunately, we've seen conflicts happen more and more often and we must come up with a solution. It's common to see people copy high rated tactics and post them as their own work without giving credits or make few insignificant changes and say that their tactics "inspired by" when it's obvious that 99% of the tactic it isn't their work and "inspired by" doesn't look like appropriate credits. Also, copying set pieces is a very common thing.

We want to hear your thoughts/opinions:

- How it can be proven that someone copied other person's tactic? What criteria should be used?

- Should there be a "punishment" for taking someone else's work without giving credits, if it should, then what kind of "punishment" it should be.

Looking forward to your comments.

Cheers.
@DeviAngel, please add a proper screenshot of the tactic.

Thank you.
@beinEthen, please check your PMs. I've sent you a message about your request to change the nickname.
99357 said: and so? credits should be given where its due or fm-arena is encouraging silent plagiarism
many will just take a top tactic here, change few roles and call it their own


I agree, something must be done about it. Soon, we'll come up with a solution.

Stay tuned!
beinEthen said: I'd like to change my forum nickname.i'm not sure if I can.

Send me a personal message - PM what name would you like to have.
beinEthen said: Tactics have been reuploaded.Please check acceptance.

It's working now. Cheers.
@FFF and @lizhidegemen, I've deleted your posts. Please, use English. Thank you.

@lizhidegemen, please add some results with the tactic.

Thank you.
@Dino, I agree with @Chewbacca. Please, edit the OP and add that "Rush" tactic is revelation's tweak with SS instead of AF and "Rush 4" tactic is revelation's tweak with SS instead of AF and IWs instead of IFs.

Thank you.
@beinEthen there's something wrong with the tactic file you uploaded. Its size is 0 Kb. Try to re-upload it.

Thank you.
Dino said: Would it be possible to have the above tactic tested please?

Hi,

Please, read this - https://fm-arena.com/thread/1661-how-fm-arena-picks-tactics-for-the-testing/

If your tactic is a tweak of someone else's tactic then give credits, provide a link to the original tactic and write up the tweaks you made.

Thank you.
beinEthen said: That's the top source. The last post from my friend can be set. But I can not find the post how to set.

Your friend was able to add the "external source" link because he was sharing not his own tactic but you can't do that because you share your own tactic.

As I said if you want to add a link to the Chinese forum then the only way to do that is putting the link in the opening post ( the 1st post of the thread ).
beinEthen said: Thanks.
I would like to know how to add my Chinese forum link. You can click directly to my post.


I think in your case the best way to do that is putting the link in the opening post ( the 1st post of the thread ).
@beinEthen, I'm glad to see that you've figured out how to share a tactic. I'll remove the previous thread.

Cheers.
momentaryblink said: I assume the DB is not available for download?

That's correct.
momentaryblink said: Most recent tactic comes in at 4.8, despite my testing database grading it out at 2.118 ppg (which would be a 7.0).  I expected a regression with their DB, but not one that large.  Was hoping for the 5.8 range and am surprised it performed that poorly.

I have to admit that I'm confused.  Dino and I have worked hard to create a testing environment that mirrors the FM-Arena database and being more selective on the tactics that we/I post.

Perhaps Inter and Napoli are just that much better than Team A and Team B and we should be testing with the bottom teams in our DB?

Back to the drawing board...


Just a heads-up, in the fm-arena testing league the teams are nothing more than just names. All the players and AI managers are tweaked.

You can download any game save and see for yourself - https://fm-arena.com/tactic/1976-arrowhead-1-4-4-2-2-1-1/

Hope that helps.

Cheers.
SEBASTCARP said: buenas tardes como hago para que prueben mi táctica__
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Hi,

This is an English speaking site. Please, use English.

Thank you.
@rrson, hi.

When you propose someone else's tactic for the testing then please, post your own result with it.

Thank you.
@andreestalinho, hi.

Please, add screenshots of the tactics.

Thank you.
ArsenalHighbury said: It’s probably already been mentioned but what is the starting value of the attributes in the attribute testing table, eg is the base value at 20 then dropped to 16 or is base value 16 then dropped to 12?

You can download any game save and check the default attributes - https://fm-arena.com/tactic/1639-fanecas/
@rrson, hi.

Please, add a screenshot of the tactic.

Thank you.