Itsyaboy420 said: yes that's what i meant, thank you. basically my team is decent and should have a chance against those giants but when using balanced mentality the xg table just make my team looked like they don't even have a chance. it's confusing to me as well, why balanced mentality just does not work against giants. another thing i want to say as well is that your tactics is awesome delicious and i never meant to disrespect or insult any of your tactics. i even used your 3-4-3 extreme suplex to the wind and 4-3-3N extreme swanton bomb and they were amazing. Expand
I did understand perfectly your point, is the same thing is frustrating me, but seem in order to get on positive and attacking you need to change the role positions and stuff, i am testing those stuff as well atm i am just checking if we can put any more spicy PI but seem they are all just cosmetic or making worst the tactic so it's kinda hard,just a bit of patience on regards of the "spam" tactics, but how arena is worked till now, pretty sure they gonna figure-out soon how to give more "appeal" to the tactic test layout as even Zaz suggested in this thread.
Itsyaboy420 said: because i used balanced mentality with my underdog team in the fa cup, then i got absolutely trashed in the first half by Manchester United. out of desperation i used the attacking mentality tactics like promotheus 2.0 which leveled the scoreboard to 2-2 in the second half then in extra time there was no more goals and proceeds to penalty shootout which i luckily won. I know my experience doesn't mean that balanced mentality doesn't work, i used 4-2-4 alhamdulillah for most of the season which was great against teams comparable to mine and dominate against teams that are weaker, but like in the first place i started commenting here is that balanced mentality is not enough when you are the underdog. i have used balanced mentality multiple times against giants such as man city, Liverpool, Chelsea and i won only a few times using 4-2-4 alhamdulillah, i won against man city with similar experience like my man utd match which is using promotheus 2.0 in the second half, lost against Liverpool 3-2 in the extra time, Chelsea just outright slaughtered me 4-1.
another thing is i would like to change mentality mid match as per condition, like when i was against arsenal in the first half i was up by 1-0 in score. then rather than stay attacking with promotheus 2.0 i would like to change to a different mentality with the same shape then i used 4-2-4 alhamdulillah 0.8 with a balanced mentality which was a mistake as i got absolutely destroyed by arsenal in the second half losing 3-1. another example is when i was against crystal palace, i was at the same position like in my arsenal match, in the second half rather than using balanced 4-2-4, i used 4-2-4 alhamdulillah by tomaka which has a cautious mentality then i won 1-0 against crystal palace.
so in conclusion i liked reiterate balance mentality is good, but it's never enough when you're up against giant teams. it just made your team looked like they were sleeping the whole match, no attacks were made, no counters, just absolutely pure domination by the other team. Expand
Balance should be a starter opening,you can tweak the tactic for what you actually need, i mean sorry to even sound "mean" but how do you believe an underdog should've have aggressive mentality vs a "elite/top level team"? I mean that's doesn't even make sense,you want more aggresion to the ball? You should use OI's or try to tweak up like you did switching to prometheus etc, you are right Balance shouldn't be a "ever green", more then mentality we need to understand why as underdog the intesity of our pressing drop so low on under those circumstances.
Tsubasa said: @Delicious, this doesn't look like the tactic in the thread. Did you upload a wrong tactic again?
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they are both incurve-ball but that doesn't mean it's different stuff, i was working on the shape and literally it didn't save the file,because i do organize first the folder,so since idk how it even possible o.o, gonna fix the screens asap, i am starting to hate that windows 11 -.-
Filer974 said: Hi Delicious I'm a big fan of your tactics, you're doing a great job, well done. I am looking for a 3421 as you did for "Poirer 3421 Positive". If I turn the 2 IW into 2 SS do you think I would have the same results? Expand
I am testing even that, you can definetily do that! I would try even double AM with (just tackle hard); and AP as well might be interesting. Yes it could definitely work :P
Added PI on def and dm zone with : shootless,mark tighter. Volantes: shootless,get further forward,Tackle Harder. WBs: Cross From Byline;Shoot less;Stay Wider. Optimizated a bit set pieces.
????? i won't ask more i got the point...
I did understand perfectly your point, is the same thing is frustrating me, but seem in order to get on positive and attacking you need to change the role positions and stuff, i am testing those stuff as well atm i am just checking if we can put any more spicy PI but seem they are all just cosmetic or making worst the tactic so it's kinda hard,just a bit of patience on regards of the "spam" tactics, but how arena is worked till now, pretty sure they gonna figure-out soon how to give more "appeal" to the tactic test layout as even Zaz suggested in this thread.
another thing is i would like to change mentality mid match as per condition, like when i was against arsenal in the first half i was up by 1-0 in score. then rather than stay attacking with promotheus 2.0 i would like to change to a different mentality with the same shape then i used 4-2-4 alhamdulillah 0.8 with a balanced mentality which was a mistake as i got absolutely destroyed by arsenal in the second half losing 3-1. another example is when i was against crystal palace, i was at the same position like in my arsenal match, in the second half rather than using balanced 4-2-4, i used 4-2-4 alhamdulillah by tomaka which has a cautious mentality then i won 1-0 against crystal palace.
so in conclusion i liked reiterate balance mentality is good, but it's never enough when you're up against giant teams. it just made your team looked like they were sleeping the whole match, no attacks were made, no counters, just absolutely pure domination by the other team.
Balance should be a starter opening,you can tweak the tactic for what you actually need, i mean sorry to even sound "mean" but how do you believe an underdog should've have aggressive mentality vs a "elite/top level team"? I mean that's doesn't even make sense,you want more aggresion to the ball? You should use OI's or try to tweak up like you did switching to prometheus etc, you are right Balance shouldn't be a "ever green", more then mentality we need to understand why as underdog the intesity of our pressing drop so low on under those circumstances.
+IW dropped down
+underlaps
Wanna just to check the difference between the zone at all
they are both incurve-ball but that doesn't mean it's different stuff, i was working on the shape and literally it didn't save the file,because i do organize first the folder,so since idk how it even possible o.o, gonna fix the screens asap, i am starting to hate that windows 11 -.-
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+Underlaps
Edit
Screens fixed
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+IWB - WB
+Underlaps
+Focus to the mid!
Set pieces reworked.
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+underlaps
-Focus on the flanks
Depends if the stats you getting are acceptable or not compared to IW/IF. But in game SS and IF seem get same kind of results ^^
I am testing even that, you can definetily do that! I would try even double AM with (just tackle hard); and AP as well might be interesting. Yes it could definitely work :P
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-Removed underlaps
+dribble more on cbs
+mark tighter on Attack pack
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Alternative to 4231; testing with underlaps
Set pieces from 4141
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Changed set pieces;
Removed crossless from wb/iw
Removed Dribble more from cbs
Both wb/Iw on narrow
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This thing is torturing me,tried to tweak it in multiple times,i've reverted the base on first attempt with some changes:
Set pieces reworked;
DM(d) coming in game again (wanted to try anchor but idk, will test it later)
5 (a) 3 (d) 2 (su) setup.
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Set pieces reworked
Mentality change : Positive
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Vol on (a) with move into channels
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Try to fit RPM(later even regista)
FBs and IW on narrow
-Underlaps, just clean focus on flanks but i will even try to focus center in next test.
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Added PI on def and dm zone with : shootless,mark tighter.
Volantes: shootless,get further forward,Tackle Harder.
WBs: Cross From Byline;Shoot less;Stay Wider.
Optimizated a bit set pieces.