MDW24 rating says Ergin is better. Anyone know why? Expand
It sounds to me like your ratings file has been altered some how.
I have manually calculated the ratings using both MDW22 and MDW24 ratings values. The calculation is, each attribute score multiplied by the ratings file weighting for the attribute for the position you are calculating. Then divided by the total attribute weighting for the position. And then divided by 20. You then also need to apply the Weight for that position in the rating file, which is where the balancing across positions occurs.
I have assumed they are both strikers.
For MDW24 I make it Ergin 52.38% to Samed 59.15%.
For MDW22 I make it Ergin 51.48% to Samed 58.09%
The difference between the two sets of ratings is in the balancing, the Weight for the position in the rating file. This is how the FS position relates to other positions which I fixed with the rebalancing. Proportionally within the positions MDW22 and MDW24 are the same but there have been some slight changes across positions. For instance in FM24 Haaland wasn't the top player using MDW22 but now is with MDW24. The changes came by comparing across positions based on a standard player as opposed to the best of each position when I did MDW22.
If you load the ratings file you are interested in and then go into Rating/Edit Player Rating you can see the Weight used for each position.
It sounds to me like your ratings file has been altered some how.
The calculation is, each attribute score multiplied by the ratings file weighting for the attribute for the position you are calculating. Then divided by the total attribute weighting for the position. And then divided by 20. You then also need to apply the Weight for that position in the rating file, which is where the balancing across positions occurs.
I have assumed they are both strikers.
For MDW24 I make it Ergin 52.38% to Samed 59.15%.
For MDW22 I make it Ergin 51.48% to Samed 58.09%
The difference between the two sets of ratings is in the balancing, the Weight for the position in the rating file. This is how the FS position relates to other positions which I fixed with the rebalancing. Proportionally within the positions MDW22 and MDW24 are the same but there have been some slight changes across positions. For instance in FM24 Haaland wasn't the top player using MDW22 but now is with MDW24. The changes came by comparing across positions based on a standard player as opposed to the best of each position when I did MDW22.
Meriten said: Decision is for every position more expensive than Anticipation (except SC) but the results on the tables are worse in comparision to Anticipation (FM22/FM23/FM24). Maybe there is one position (or even two positions) where Decision has a better cost-benefit ratio than Anticipation. But that doesn't matter. Why? Because you can't train Decision just for one position. You always must train Decision for all positions:
So a high value for Decision in a training session is always a bad thing. Expand
If you give a player Additional Focus of Final Third they will train both Composure and Decisions.
Micka544 said: Hi, i downloads some setpiece here and put in the "set piece" folder but i can't find them in the game when i try to load them anyone Can tell me why pls ? Expand
It is hard to know without seeing screenshots of what you are doing.
When you download the file place it in the set piece directory, should be something like this C:\Users\[USERNAME]\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2024\set pieces
Load FM24 (these set pieces wont work on older versions of the game) and your save game file.
Go Tactics and then Set Pieces.
Click on the drop down at Routines
Select Load all routines. All your set piece routines should be in the Set Pieces folder. Check your load location is the right folder.
Peztyke said: any direct downloads for these set pieces please The stand out top 4 are Blue, Han106 1-24, Han 1-21 and Delicious 4 inside 34. I will be using the top ranked Blue Routine. Expand
Meriten said: There is a big problem. One example: Anticipation is good but Decision is bad in context of CA efficiency according to the test results on fm-arena. But there is no training session which trains more Anticipation but less Decision.
Excerpt from MaxEBFM results:
Another example is Acceleration/Pace (both are good) and Agility (bad). I tried to beat the system by using a good and a bad coach but that doesn't work either. Anticipation/Decision is trained by the same coach and Acceleration/Pace/Agility is trained by the same coach too.
Another problem is that we don't know all good attributes. Stamina e.g. is bad according to fm-arena test results but good according to ykykyk. Expand
This is only a thought and totally unproven, but the machine learning was using overall, that is combinations whereas fm arena used single attributes.
Now I know that the machine learning was done with just one tactic over one year, but to me it seems more reliable.
The changes by year for attributes seem marginal. As Rampaging Roy Slavin would say, make of that what you will.
Jakirola said: I've been trying to run NEWGAN from original installation onto FM24. It's not creating a config file and is forever stuck "Parsing RTF". Any ideas how to resolve? Expand
You need the updated version for FM24. SI changed the Newgen numbering. Priisek has done an updated video on it. See my post above yours
Knap MC40 tested. Certainly well worth using. I have now added a score and rank to the data. Here is the updated table. The Original Post has also been updated including recommendations.
TurtleKing said: That's a little disappointing yes, I thought they'd both do better. Han106 1-24 did a little bit better though, while my updated one did worse. Even on attacking corners I did worse, and on the update I used the same corner tactic as him.
Maybe the high line I used for IFKA in the orginal one was the one thing giving me the high points, or just very random RNG. Expand
There was one particular bad results where there were 11 long term injuries, but even excluding the best and worst result it wasn't quite there
It is possible. But I am not sure it is probable given the changes to set pieces this year. Feel free to give it a go if you want.
i cant find them anywhere
MDW24 Link
MDW24 rating says Ergin is better. Anyone know why?
It sounds to me like your ratings file has been altered some how.
I have manually calculated the ratings using both MDW22 and MDW24 ratings values. The calculation is, each attribute score multiplied by the ratings file weighting for the attribute for the position you are calculating. Then divided by the total attribute weighting for the position. And then divided by 20. You then also need to apply the Weight for that position in the rating file, which is where the balancing across positions occurs.
I have assumed they are both strikers.
For MDW24 I make it Ergin 52.38% to Samed 59.15%.
For MDW22 I make it Ergin 51.48% to Samed 58.09%
The difference between the two sets of ratings is in the balancing, the Weight for the position in the rating file. This is how the FS position relates to other positions which I fixed with the rebalancing. Proportionally within the positions MDW22 and MDW24 are the same but there have been some slight changes across positions. For instance in FM24 Haaland wasn't the top player using MDW22 but now is with MDW24. The changes came by comparing across positions based on a standard player as opposed to the best of each position when I did MDW22.
If you load the ratings file you are interested in and then go into Rating/Edit Player Rating you can see the Weight used for each position.
I hope this helps.
The calculation is, each attribute score multiplied by the ratings file weighting for the attribute for the position you are calculating. Then divided by the total attribute weighting for the position. And then divided by 20. You then also need to apply the Weight for that position in the rating file, which is where the balancing across positions occurs.
I have assumed they are both strikers.
For MDW24 I make it Ergin 52.38% to Samed 59.15%.
For MDW22 I make it Ergin 51.48% to Samed 58.09%
The difference between the two sets of ratings is in the balancing, the Weight for the position in the rating file. This is how the FS position relates to other positions which I fixed with the rebalancing. Proportionally within the positions MDW22 and MDW24 are the same but there have been some slight changes across positions. For instance in FM24 Haaland wasn't the top player using MDW22 but now is with MDW24. The changes came by comparing across positions based on a standard player as opposed to the best of each position when I did MDW22.
I hope this helps.
If you link to the game file I will have a look. I have done the manual calcs and Samad comes out a long way in front.
Yes
For anyone interested here is the rebalanced for FM24 version of my MDW22 Genie Scout rating file.
MDW24
Download the one from the opening post of this thread. It was the best tactic tested on FM Arena for version 23.5.0
Can you briefly describe what was written there?
So a high value for Decision in a training session is always a bad thing.
If you give a player Additional Focus of Final Third they will train both Composure and Decisions.
It is hard to know without seeing screenshots of what you are doing.
When you download the file place it in the set piece directory, should be something like this C:\Users\[USERNAME]\Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2024\set pieces
Load FM24 (these set pieces wont work on older versions of the game) and your save game file.
Go Tactics and then Set Pieces.
Click on the drop down at Routines
Select Load all routines. All your set piece routines should be in the Set Pieces folder. Check your load location is the right folder.
Select the routine you want and click on Load.
All the downloads are in the Set Piece Sharing Section
Excerpt from MaxEBFM results:
Another example is Acceleration/Pace (both are good) and Agility (bad). I tried to beat the system by using a good and a bad coach but that doesn't work either. Anticipation/Decision is trained by the same coach and Acceleration/Pace/Agility is trained by the same coach too.
Another problem is that we don't know all good attributes. Stamina e.g. is bad according to fm-arena test results but good according to ykykyk.
This is only a thought and totally unproven, but the machine learning was using overall, that is combinations whereas fm arena used single attributes.
Now I know that the machine learning was done with just one tactic over one year, but to me it seems more reliable.
The changes by year for attributes seem marginal. As Rampaging Roy Slavin would say, make of that what you will.
You need the updated version for FM24. SI changed the Newgen numbering. Priisek has done an updated video on it. See my post above yours
Link to Knap MC40 Set Piece Routine
I have only been testing set pieces shared in the set piece sharing section of this site. I will share this one and test.
you could try one of these:
3151 Amen
Modern Warfare 442
Maybe the high line I used for IFKA in the orginal one was the one thing giving me the high points, or just very random RNG.
There was one particular bad results where there were 11 long term injuries, but even excluding the best and worst result it wasn't quite there
My thoughts are in the opening post. You would do ok with any of the ones mentioned there