I typed the wrong thing into the tactic name. Anyhow this is trying to improve the goal scoring on the Very Attacking tactic from my Mentality testing tactic. I used it as the base and made some tweaks with inspiration from the 325 OCB tactic. Left the front 3 but moved the WBs to Wingers, so right wide attacking midfielder changed to IF, and changed the midfielders to CMs. Stuck to no PIs.

I am using the same testing structure as my previous tests, 1 unfancied team from each English Division from Enterprise South through to EPL. These are holiday tests with no transfers.

My results for this version were 4 League winners, one second, one fourth and Burnley finished 7th in EPL.

An extension of my Mentality testing, with the original Defensive version of my Mentality testing tactic using a striker tactic based on Argus without PIs. I am looking to get a park the bus tactic by improving the Defensive version incorporating some of the team instructions from Bread's tactic without using PIs and trying to stick close to the original tactic.

Seems to be pretty solid at the back, hoping we will concede less goals than the 37 from my original defensive tactic and no lose to much in terms of points (76 pts).

I am using the same testing structure as my previous tests, 1 unfancied team from each English Division from Enterprise South through to EPL. These are holiday tests with no transfers.

My results for this version were 4 League winners, 2 seconds and Burnley very disappointing and relegated after finishing 19th in EPL. Burnley did however perform pretty well defensively.

This is the last in the series.

Results:



I find it interesting that Attacking seems to dominate in the top tactics at the moment. I am having great results with the balanced version of this tactic

I think it would be interesting to see how the top tactics would go as Positive or Very Attacking.

I might yet try some variations on this tactic at a later date, but will now get back to my save.

Hopefully this has made a few people think about mentality.

The last test in the series.

This is the Positive version of my Mentality testing of a striker tactic based on Argus without PIs.

So far tested have been Very Defensive (72 pts), Defensive (76 pts), Cautious (74 pts), Balanced (78 pts), Attacking (77 pts) and Very Attacking (80 pts).

I am using the same testing structure as my previous tests, 1 unfancied team from each English Division from Enterprise South through to EPL. These are holiday tests with no transfers.

My results for this version were 4 League winners, one second, one fifth and Burnley finished 10th in EPL.

This  is the best defensive tactic so far. only 37 goals against for the season. 76 pts so a long way better than Very Defensive or Cautious. Lets see how our last one goes tomorrow

This is the Cautious version of my Mentality testing of a striker tactic based on Argus without PIs.

So far tested have been Very Defensive (72 pts), Balanced (78 pts), Attacking (77 pts) and Very Attacking (80 pts).

I am using the same testing structure as my previous tests, 1 unfancied team from each English Division from Enterprise South through to EPL. These are holiday tests with no transfers.

My results for this version were 3 League winners, one second, one 4th, one 5th and Burnley finished 8th in EPL. This is my worst result so far.

This is the Defensive version of my Mentality testing of a striker tactic based on Argus without PIs.

So far tested have been Very Defensive (72 pts), Balanced (78 pts), Attacking (77 pts) and Very Attacking (80 pts).

I am using the same testing structure as my previous tests, 1 unfancied team from each English Division from Enterprise South through to EPL. These are holiday tests with no transfers.

My results for this version were 4 League winners, one second, one third and Burnley finished 6th in EPL.

This is the best so far and not far off the top of the single striker tactics.



I have so far managed to get 4 mentalities tested with 3 to go. Couldn't get the last ones done until late last night so the next 2 wont be until Friday morning and then the last one Saturday hopefully. Results to date:






They seem to be very much indicating that the higher the mentality the more points and goals for, the lower the mentality the less points and the less goals against.

Lets see if that continues.

This is the Very Attacking version of my Mentality testing of a striker tactic based on Argus without PIs.

So far tested have been Balanced (78 pts) and Attacking (77 pts).

I am using the same testing structure as my previous tests, 1 unfancied team from each English Division from Enterprise South through to EPL. These are holiday tests with no transfers.

My results for this version were 4 League winners, one second, one third and Burnley finished 7th in EPL.

This is the Very Defensive version of my Mentality testing of a striker tactic based on Argus without PIs.

So far tested have been Balanced (78 pts) and Attacking (77 pts).

I am using the same testing structure as my previous tests, 1 unfancied team from each English Division from Enterprise South through to EPL. These are holiday tests with no transfers.

My results for this version were 5 League winners, one second and Burnley finished 10th in EPL. Best results to date.



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Balanced beat this by a point and had a better defence. It will be interesting in the days ahead to see how the other mentalities go.

This is a seriously good effort for a Balanced Mentality, a Striker and no PIs.

A continuation of the mentality testing using a striker version of Argus. This time it is Attacking.

I am using the same testing structure as my previous tests, 1 unfancied team from each English Division from Enterprise South through to EPL. These are holiday tests with no transfers.

Results werent too bad again, slightly better. Won 4 leagues again with 2 seconds and Burnley finishing 14th.

Hopefully this version wont be too far off the top of the striker tactics. Hoping for around 78.

I really dont like playing with strikerless tactics, so have been moving the AM SS forward to an ST CHF. This tactic is based on the leading Argus one. I have also stripped out all the PIs other than the ones that you cant because they relate to the role. I generally play in lower divisions so prefer less complicated tactics. Using this as the base I am going to put up tests with all the different mentalities find out the difference in performance and the impact on goals for and against.

This is the Balanced version, the middle mentality, so it will be the baseline. Next one will be Attacking as it appears to be the one that is rating best in the FM Arena testing environment.

I am using the same testing structure as my previous tests, 1 unfancied team from each English Division from Enterprise South through to EPL. These are holiday tests with no transfers.

Results werent too bad. The bottom 4 leagues were all easy winners. L1 finished 6th, Championship finishes 2nd and Burnley finished 15th in EPL.

I decided to use Shrewsbury who won L2 by 13 points and scored 113 goals for with just 39 against in 46 matches.

harvestgreen22 said: excel 5:

211 Handling, Shot Stopping, Attacking, Physical, Chance Conversion, Aerial Defence, Ground Defence and Distribution

212 2x Physical + 2x Match Practice + Attack + Defend + Set Pieces

243 [Quickness] + [Match Practice] + [Attacking] x2 Expand

I think I am getting closer to the best balance with your tests so thank you so much. Here is the next iteration:

Handling, Shot Stopping, Physical x 2, Chance Conversion, Aerial Defence, Ground Defence and One on Ones

Once again reducing the Decisions component and increasing the Acc and Pace

If you could test this when you get a chance i would very much appreciate it

Thanks

harvestgreen22 said: [Chance creation][Attacking][Aerial Defense][Handling][Defending from the front][Quickness]
it is in  Serial 97

Its effect is similar to Serial 145 "[Attacking] x2"

Balance, However, the number of invalid attributes such as "Decision" has increased significantly. Expand

Looking at the table and thinking about my training schedule, I think removing Defending and Change Creation to remove the Decisions growth and bringing Physical and Distribution might work better.

Any chance you could test that - Handling, Shot Stopping, Attacking, Physical, Chance Conversion, Aerial Defence, Ground Defence and Distribution. Seems more balance but with good growth

harvestgreen22 said: new Excel：
https://pixeldrain.com/u/pcRwnxi8


This new Excel file might be helpful to you.

The data in this table is presented more intuitively. I conducted this test under different conditions (There are notes in excel). If necessary, I can also upload the test save.
The test data is included in the Excel file. I haven't finished this test completely yet, but I think it's okay to have a general look at it.

among them,
“97” is "[Chance Creation][Attacking][Aerial Defense][Handling][Defending from the Front][Quickness]" (As you mentioned)

among them,
“99” is the "3 Def + 2 Att + 3 Phy + 2 MP + 1 GD" from "Evidence Based Football Manager"

The table is divided into "non-goalkeeper" and "goalkeeper", and they are respectively located on pages 1 and 2 (I had ignored the goalkeeper in the previous tests). Expand

Could you try Handling, Shot Stopping, Attacking, Defending, Aerial Defence, Ground Defence, Chance Creation, Chance Conversion.

This is my latest Training Schedule and I am getting good improvement.

Thanks

All the good tactics seem to be using 4 wide and 6 through the middle. I have tried 2 lines of 5 before in my 50500 tactic. Now trying 10 through the middle with 3 DCs, a striker, 2 DMs, 2 MCs and 2 AMCs. I think this formation impacted a lot of the squads I was using as they didnt seem to be able to easily cover 6 central mids. Altrincham seemed to cope and won their league even with a disastrous April with a loss and 4 draws from their 5 games.

Holiday mode with no transfers.

@ZaZ thanks for putting it up for testing. Certainly within the margin of error of the best striker tactic. I will continue to use it and have the strikerless as the back up if we are in trouble.