Avenger22
Removed take more risks PI, added focus play down the flanks to test it, also removed look for overlaps
Went back to the Susanoo III which was pretty solid, added take more risks in dm, cm positions, and PI change on WB, also added overlaps.
Added HB which makes it a back 3 with the ball results seem improved compared to DM(d) which was useless with the ball but will see, the drawback is HB has dribble less hardcoded ...
Removed overlaps, added few PI in CM and DM from support to defend
Wow 2 CM support and meta ... maybe it is shape related cause in 3-5-2 saw huge drop compared to attack the attack became sterile, but love support roles much more realistic watching it than attack ones in midfield
dzek said: @Avenger22 try both CM on support if you have time :)

Will try it but i think will do much worse, this shape is a bit different from 4-4-2 diamond one, here if i make them on support i have only 2 players in the box there it worked better with support cause it exposed alot def here def is much more secure, but will try in my 3-5-2 when i had both cm on support the score dropped massively
Now another diamond this time in a 361 shape, love the attacking shape with the ball quite well spread and solid but won't come close to the 352.
Best result, 2th place with Sassuolo 101 goals scored, much better than the first version esp offensively i think as a shape is not bad at all lest see.

I changed CM(s) to CM(a) with roam PI, take more risks, and move into channels thats it
Would like to try the worst shape here which i think isn't that bad will see.
Isn't in this case the shape same as FB(D) cause IFB don't invert when 2 CB are in place
A Smile said: In fact, this setting is not reasonable, before I found in the online game DMS out of the ball is always intercepted, I want to add this instruction will not improve, so do so. As a result, although the feeling is still problematic, the overall pressure is indeed increased.

Maybe i think it increases the counter-press of DM(s) he is 10 m close to opponent area so closer to press and maybe adds more verticality dont really know but i used it and did little bit better but maybe zero difference as a PI still not sure, DM(s) all its benefit is mostly off the ball and in transition there it shines and that is why every tactic need 1 or 2 DM
Curious to ask why get further forward in DM(s) ? i mean won't attack the box harcoded like the sv(a) does, even sv(S) doesn't attack the box so curious how it is there or maybe just some 5 m stuff in ME so it does little ?
Nikhil said: Hi avenger.One last question ,do you use shoot less often on players and and do you use work the ball into box?
How will did mezala performed in c/m attack position. ?Shorter passing is important right?
Thank you once again 🇨🇦👍


Mezzala performed same in terms of points maybe 1 point drop but is slightly worse defensively from test, also from ui in tactic you see him being higher, also has less press as default in PI but are very very similar if not the same points wise, short passing is better imo but the balanced may work too not big difference just small, shot less often i tried on WB did well but the ME loves those long shots from deflected crosses and stuff so i think is better to leave it default so the player chooses
Nikhil said: Thank you avenger. If you can win in Italy with this tactic,you can win any where. Thank you my friend. Finally ditching 4231. It’s so inconsistent. The wingers and inside forwards are horrible. Single didn’t score for 10 match. Can’t keep a clean sheet can’t score.Thank you once.  Which tactic you recommended of all your versions?

This is the best i mean its 54 after 2k matches so it is the most stable, i am testing some 3-4-2-1 to see i think it is even better but will see, the 4-2-3-1 is very strong in this meta ME better than in every version i just don't like inside forwards neither in real life nor in FM even though it is meta and the best tactic this year and generally 4-2-3-1 is a very strong pressing shape allows very strong press.
Same as Chidori I but with focus play down both flanks added in it
Attacking => Balanced
First time trying this shape and tested with Udinese 4th, combined stuff from my best 352 here and also from Stuaret and Filler which had success with this shape
Hhahaha back to 54 points ... to be expected still very good for a 3-5-2 with 2k matches
Delicious said: The last resort paid off :woot:

My beloved 352 won't give up lol, it is bound to HOF and both times it entered in last try hahah
Nikhil said: Hi brother. I’m in terrible form using 4231. My single striker can’t score. I’m playing on condole. If you don’t mind could you post player instructions.
Thanks brother 👍


Hi my friend, these are the PI

GK: tackle harder
CB middle: dribble more, tackle harder
CB outer: dribble more, stay wider, tackle harder
DM: take more risks, tackle harder
CM: roam from pos, move into channels, tackle harder
WB: stay wider, tackle harder, take more risks, dribble more, cross more often
ST: tackle harder