Your original Katana tactic hit 2.4 points positive RNG so to beat it at least by 1 point you need a tactic that would be better than your Katana by 2.4 points and also you need to hit at least 1 point positive RNG... I'd say that taks is almost imposibble Expand
I'm more intrigued to see if the score drops and by how much
Wing back on the left side accompanied by a defensive winger(as the wing back has a PI of cross from byline I wanted a bit more cover for when he bombs forward hence the defensive winger) Full back on the right accompanied by a winger on attack
6 trophies won including club world cup. Training left to AM. Holiday tested.
LaXatiif said: Thanks @CBP87 ! I should then keep the Attacking mentality and only add a few tweaks when leading or facing top teams (reducing tempo, removing GK press, etc)?
With these instructions, would you then say that this v3.1.19 is a less "risky" version of the v3.1?
Sorry, but what do you mean with "Tackle harder for me all depends on the quality of player you have, But when I'm an elite team I do often remove tackle harder" ? Can you explain why it is important and quite common to use this instruction? Expand
In terms of being risky I would say its less risky purely based on the fact that less goals were scored in this test (-2 from v3.1)
Tackle harder encourages your players to be more aggressive in the tackle, risking the chance of more disciplinary actions against them, but with tackle harder and get stuck in I often find the player jumps into a challenge and could potentially miss the tackle leading to a space opening up which the opposition can exploit.
Being an elite team, teams will often play on the counter attack meaning if your players are jumping in and missing the ball then not only are you short at the back because your players are potentially up the field, hence being countered, but you've also potentially got your remaining defending players jumping into challenges which could lead to spaces in your defensive line being exploited.
On the other hand, getting stuck in and tackle harder can also disrupt your opposition as you're more likely going to commit fouls which will allow you to get players behind the ball again
LaXatiif said: @CBP87 Like for Katana 4231 100p v3, would these changes work on a Positive mentally? What about removing tackle harder from all roles? Cheers Expand
I would say positive mentality should work, but I haven't tried it. Tackle harder for me all depends on the quality of player you have, But when I'm an elite team I do often remove tackle harder
nurderbvb said: great tactics, thanks man. just wondering, how is a tweak looking like for bringing home a game when leading with 1-2 goals from 70th minute onwards? Expand
I haven't uploaded a tweak of that nature mate as it wouldn't perform well in the test. But I would say reduce your tempo, remove prevent short GK distribution. You pretty much want to remove any instructions that involves your players leaving their designated positions. Try to create a wall that is capable of keeping hold of the ball
That's the first time I'm gonna test a version of Katana tactic (and also my first post here).
I came here because I'm having trouble this FM version to make my tactics work and I really need to revert my situation at Schalke 04 in february 2024.
I know I'm too far from the playoff positions, but I hope I can do it just a little bit better. I will share my final position and compare the first stage with the second one. This is my first stage with some different tactics:
I want to ask you something. Is there something special about the Opposition instructions? Should I leave them empty, or to my assistant coach?
Thanks! Expand
Hi,
I leave opposition instructions alone, I don't leave them to the assistant manager either.
The Lone Wanderer said: National league North. Great tactic. I love to play but don't have a clue about making a tactic so i use created tactics to fill in that gap and i can do the rest.
Also used the Set-Pieces that someone mentioned earlier in this thread. Saw an immediate improvement on set-pieces once included.
Thanks for the tactic. Expand
cracking result, what set piece routine did you use?
Changes- Removed dribble more and run wider with ball from FB Added shoot less often to CB Removed take more risks from DM Removed hold up ball from AM
AlexBote said: super tactic! just one question. The DM role's can be changed without affecting the overall tactic effectiveness? I was thinking of a DLP and a BWM Expand
Changing the roles would impact the effectiveness of the tactic in my opinion, but if you have the players to do it then I would say go for it
Your original Katana tactic hit 2.4 points positive RNG so to beat it at least by 1 point you need a tactic that would be better than your Katana by 2.4 points and also you need to hit at least 1 point positive RNG... I'd say that taks is almost imposibble
I'm more intrigued to see if the score drops and by how much
Changes-
Removed overlap
Removed move into channels on AM
Intrigued to see how this performs after the research done by the FM arena team here https://fm-arena.com/find-comment/32732/
Wing back on the left side accompanied by a defensive winger(as the wing back has a PI of cross from byline I wanted a bit more cover for when he bombs forward hence the defensive winger)
Full back on the right accompanied by a winger on attack
6 trophies won including club world cup. Training left to AM. Holiday tested.
Haaland scored 84 goals in all comps.
Changes-
AM duty changed to support
IF duty changed to attack
FB changed to WB
Overlap removed
Underlap added
Changes-
Left FB changed to WB
Left IF duty changed to attack
Removed overlap left
Added underlap right
AM duty changed to support
Changes-
Left IF changed to IF attack
Overlap left removed
Underlap right added
Changes-
Added be more expressive
With these instructions, would you then say that this v3.1.19 is a less "risky" version of the v3.1?
Sorry, but what do you mean with "Tackle harder for me all depends on the quality of player you have, But when I'm an elite team I do often remove tackle harder" ? Can you explain why it is important and quite common to use this instruction?
In terms of being risky I would say its less risky purely based on the fact that less goals were scored in this test (-2 from v3.1)
Tackle harder encourages your players to be more aggressive in the tackle, risking the chance of more disciplinary actions against them, but with tackle harder and get stuck in I often find the player jumps into a challenge and could potentially miss the tackle leading to a space opening up which the opposition can exploit.
Being an elite team, teams will often play on the counter attack meaning if your players are jumping in and missing the ball then not only are you short at the back because your players are potentially up the field, hence being countered, but you've also potentially got your remaining defending players jumping into challenges which could lead to spaces in your defensive line being exploited.
On the other hand, getting stuck in and tackle harder can also disrupt your opposition as you're more likely going to commit fouls which will allow you to get players behind the ball again
I would say positive mentality should work, but I haven't tried it. Tackle harder for me all depends on the quality of player you have, But when I'm an elite team I do often remove tackle harder
Changes-
Removed hold up ball from AM
Removed dribble more and run wide from FB
Added shoot less often to CB
Removed take more risks from DM
Changes-
AM and SS position changed
Removed overlap right
Added underlap right
Tweaked version of https://fm-arena.com/thread/9025-katana-4231-104p-v3-1/
Changes-
Added be more disciplined to in possession instructions
Holiday Tested.
AM in charge of training and set pieces left to set piece coach
I haven't uploaded a tweak of that nature mate as it wouldn't perform well in the test. But I would say reduce your tempo, remove prevent short GK distribution. You pretty much want to remove any instructions that involves your players leaving their designated positions. Try to create a wall that is capable of keeping hold of the ball
That's the first time I'm gonna test a version of Katana tactic (and also my first post here).
I came here because I'm having trouble this FM version to make my tactics work and I really need to revert my situation at Schalke 04 in february 2024.
I know I'm too far from the playoff positions, but I hope I can do it just a little bit better. I will share my final position and compare the first stage with the second one. This is my first stage with some different tactics:
I want to ask you something. Is there something special about the Opposition instructions? Should I leave them empty, or to my assistant coach?
Thanks!
Hi,
I leave opposition instructions alone, I don't leave them to the assistant manager either.
Also used the Set-Pieces that someone mentioned earlier in this thread. Saw an immediate improvement on set-pieces once included.
Thanks for the tactic.
cracking result, what set piece routine did you use?
Changes-
Removed dribble more and run wider with ball from FB
Added shoot less often to CB
Removed take more risks from DM
Removed hold up ball from AM
Changing the roles would impact the effectiveness of the tactic in my opinion, but if you have the players to do it then I would say go for it