CBP87
Quick holiday test with Villa again, no FMRTE and AM doing training and team selection


Just to show that FMRTE wasnt used
Zippo said: Hi,

Yes, create a new thread for it, please.

As you may noticed we changed the way people upload thier tactics for the testing and only tactics that were uploaded using the new upload system are considered for the testing.


Thanks pal, I have created a new thread
A variant of the Tarantula Hawk AF CB tactic (https://fm-arena.com/thread/1164-tarantula-hawk-af-cb/), removed counter press and added regroup. Achieved some really good results with Liverpool and Villa. Holiday tested with no FMRTE used and AM doing training and team selection.

107 pts with Liverpool and all but FA Cup won, 52 goals from Salah


5th place finish with Villa and an FA Cup, Watkins with 38 goals


Thanks
its from FM Scout, a guy called TREQ I believe, screenshot below of the results he posted

**holiday test, training and team selection left to AM, no FMRTE used**

Had success with this using Villa, Its a 433 but with no midfield or strikers, WBs have get further forward and cross from byline added to ensure they get up the field as much as possible when they have the ball, effectively trying to make the WBs more winger esq



I performed another test with Liverpool, won everything bar the Carabao Cup

Grimlock said: 'Overlap' is a quite useless TI, the only what it does is increasing the fullback mentality about 5%. Most of time it's presence is unnoticeable. It has no effect on the forwards runs.

what makes you say that?
How about sticking the WBs on defend duty but sticking overlap left and right so they still get forward?
A solid 4-3-2-1 tactic that produces a lot of goals and concedes very little.



Tested with both Liverpool and Villa, no FMRTE used and team selection and training left to AM. Some screenshots -

Liverpool averaged 102 pts over the 3 tests, averaging 103 scored and just 16 conceded



Villa averaged 79 pts over the 3 tests, averaging 80 goals scored and 39 conceded




I ran the tactic through my own test 6 times, 3 times with Liverpool and 3 with Villa. I capture data from each test and work out an average. Tactic put in to all 3 tactic slots, team selection and training left to AM. No FMRTE used. Analysis -

Liverpool


Villa


Appreciate any feedback on how to improve this
A tweaked version of shadow hawk (https://fm-arena.com/thread/1146-shadow-hawk/)

GK changed from SKs to Gd
BPDd changed to CBd
WMs changed to Ws
CMs changed to CMa

Not much change with the TIs, removed run at defence, be more expressive and added play fairly narrow

Updated SPs, more specifically defensive free kicks and adding more men in the wall



In my own testing, no FMRTE used. I tested this 3 times with Liverpool and Aston Villa. With Liverpool over the 3 tests it averaged over 102 points, scored over 105 goals and conceded 15. It won 11 trophies out of the 15 and the top scorer was averaged at 43 goals. These figures are averages from the 3 tests

With Villa over the 3 tests, it averaged 80 points scored over 74 goals, conceded on average around 34, won 4 out of 15 trophies and the top scorer average was 26

I've ran a quick test this morning for both Liverpool and Villa and the results are below.





Would love to get some feedback on this, I tried many variants and this version consistently gave me the best results
I performed another test this morning using teams that are predicted to relegated. I took 6 leagues, put the tactic in all 3 slots, left training to AM and went on holiday to the end of the season. I think the results speak for themselves.

Cadiz finished 5th, predicted 19th


Benevento finished 11th, predicted 18th


Mainz finished 6th, predicted 17th


Lorient finished 3rd, predicted 20th


Fulham finished 4th, predicted 20th


Sheffield Wednesday finished 19th, predicted 22nd and with a 6 point deduction, otherwise it would have been a 13th place finish.
Tested with Villa. predicted 18th. Finished 3rd, above average in 5 of the 8 areas analysed in team report.


Bogeyman said: @CBP87, I think your tactic is very similar to COMET V2 :)

https://fm-arena.com/tactic/952-comet-v2/


Yeah looks similar to be fair, haven't seen that one before, looks really good though and smashed the test
Sorry Eric, it should be support duty, I have uploaded the wrong screenshot. I will amend now but the tactic file is correct
Shadow Hawk is a 41311 or you may see it differently. It is fundamentally a tweaked version of the ZaZ - Blue 3.0 tactic. I have tweaked some roles as well as the set piece setup and I have added/removed some PIs/TIs. Its not a complete overhaul of the original version. I reckon I have potentially done over 100 tests with different variants of the tweaks, more around roles.

The one I am posting today in my opinion did the best over 3 different tests for me, I tested with Liverpool with AM set to do training and team selection. No transfers and no editor allowed, I would then go on holiday until the end of the season. I get that this is probably not the greatest way to test as the environment is different each time with injuries to key players etc.. but I like to test as if I was playing the game.

Over the 3 tests I will be posting today you can see that Salah scored 49, 55 and 67 goals, the team ratings at the end of season showed the tactic was getting the best out of the players.

Below is a few screenshots from the tests I have done, as you can see it has been very successful. The general performance analysis has also remained consistent with each test that I have done.

The tactic scores a shed load of goals as well as remaining solid at the back. I know I am using Liverpool and they are an elite team so the results may be expected but I think this tactic still overperformed with an elite team

Thanks